Ufo video and moon that i can't explain. maybe YOU can?

The first is suppose to be genesis probe crash to earth.


Look close you can see something move inside the probe where it cracked...
2nd
It FELL free fall from outer-space!!!!!!!!!!!!

and it just has one crack in it?
Do you realize that a airplane hit the WTC and it disintegrated....
Yet this object was so well made..it can withstand a fall from space..free fall...
Common.
If so why don't we make airplanes out of this crap?


I don't know if this footage is real or cgi.
But it intrigue's me.


You can clearly see someone walking around in black outfit.
Is it real?

I'm not a video expert, so I'm not going to address the bottom clip....but the top one is, indeed, the rather spectacular failure on reentry of the Genesis probe. As for it only having one crack, there are two *major* cracks visible in the post-impact images. One on the left side, and the other at about the 2 o'clock position. There's also the near-total separation of part of the upper casing, and probably a lot more damage to the part buried in the sand.

As for why we don't build airplanes out of the 'miracle metal' the Genesis probe was built from, we actually do. It's not so much *what* the probe was made from, as *how* it was made. An aircraft fuselage is mostly empty space (which the operators hope to fill with paying passengers and luggage...all of which is relatively 'soft'), while space probes are very short on empty space...if there's room in there to fit something in, they'll cram an instrument, a battery pack, or a backup system into it. It's rather like the difference between throwing a pottery vase at a brick wall, and throwing a clay brick at a brick wall. Both the vase and the brick are the same material, but they're very different in structure, and as a result, react to violent impact very differently.

Yes I saw it many times, but I still the same.
Nobody said something conclusive.
It could be real.

SNC

I just can't grasp how anythign can free fall from space....and still be that intact.

That's what make's me wonder so much about it.
Did you notice the movement inside the crack on left?

Ok let's say a asteroid falls to earth..what would it look like once it hit's?

Well it happens all the time.
they burn up ect...then explode or what not...
and it's a rock..lol

Space shuttle's are made of same material..
They have to come in at a angel to avoid being burnt to crispy critters themselves.

Do you see this thing even smoking?
Or any proof this thing was hot?
I don't even see a steam pocket and it landed in sand....
Not to mention i don;t even see and sand thrown around..sand cloud.

It's still odd to me is all i am saying.

I bet you 1 dollar..you drop that genesis probe of the empire state building it will shatter in 1000 piece's.

very interesting videos, especially the second one. I hope someone will clarify what we are looking at there. It certainly is something or someone.

S+F

Originally posted by TheAmused

I just can't grasp how anythign can free fall from space....and still be that intact.

Sometimes people's chutes don't open and they also survive.

reply to post by TheAmused

Like the space shuttle, the Genesis probe was designed to re-enter the atmosphere. That's why it did not burn up.

When a fast moving object enters the atmosphere it is heated by friction but it also slows down quite rapidly. By the time Genesis was caught by the cameras it had slowed to terminal velocity (193 mph) and cooled down. That's the speed it was moving when it hit the ground.

[edit on 9/4/2009 by Phage]

i looked for this genesis probe found a pic on msnbc.
it look's nothing like the video we saw.
msnbcmedia3.msn.com...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/15a0e3eba55c.jpg[/atsimg]
look at the difference here folk's...
it's either not the same thing..or one is a fake.
en.wikipedia.org...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b037ea03cf58.jpg[/atsimg]

Do you see a crack in the right front on the MSNBC picture?
i sure don't..
it it should be clearly visible..but it's not.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/517441ae7896.jpg[/atsimg]

The sample return capsule crashed into the Utah desert floor, breaking open the capsule. The capsule is about 1.5 m (4.9 ft) in diameter and has a mass of 275 kg (600 lb)

can you not see why i say something is not right here?
3 picture's all claim to be real.
All 3 show something different.
[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

The second video has to be a hoax... I would love for it to be real and it may be real, but i wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket for sure. It's too easy to photoshop something in there... especially something that small.

Originally posted by TheAmused
i looked for this genesis probe found a pic on msnbc.
it look's nothing like the video we saw.
msnbcmedia3.msn.com...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/15a0e3eba55c.jpg[/atsimg]
look at the difference here folk's...
it's either not the same thing..or one is a fake.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b037ea03cf58.jpg[/atsimg]

Do you see a crack in the right front on the MSNBC picture?
i sure don't..
it it should be clearly visible..but it's not.

I think i know what you mean, its on the bottom pic, front left, but on the top pic, there is no crack.

Good find.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by GezinhoKiko]

Originally posted by TheAmused
i looked for this genesis probe found a pic on msnbc.
it look's nothing like the video we saw.
msnbcmedia3.msn.com...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/15a0e3eba55c.jpg[/atsimg]
look at the difference here folk's...
it's either not the same thing..or one is a fake.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b037ea03cf58.jpg[/atsimg]

Do you see a crack in the right front on the MSNBC picture?
i sure don't..
it it should be clearly visible..but it's not.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/517441ae7896.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

Definitely the same object... just different times of the day.

reply to post by x2Strongx

For the second video, see here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by x2Strongx

Originally posted by TheAmused
i looked for this genesis probe found a pic on msnbc.
it look's nothing like the video we saw.
msnbcmedia3.msn.com...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/15a0e3eba55c.jpg[/atsimg]
look at the difference here folk's...
it's either not the same thing..or one is a fake.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b037ea03cf58.jpg[/atsimg]

Do you see a crack in the right front on the MSNBC picture?
i sure don't..
it it should be clearly visible..but it's not.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/517441ae7896.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

Definitely the same object... just different times of the day.

Forget the helicopter pic, look at the 2 smaller pics, on the top one there is no crack on the left hand side, on the bottom was there is.

reply to post by GezinhoKiko


That's why i said something doesn't set right.

It all should be the same.

But it isn't.

the Msnbc picture look's like they hired a team of cleaner's to clean the dust of it..
It' even shine's..has a yellow top lol

Sorry... I see the same object in both pictures...


*** Second Line ***

Yeah the first vid of genisis probe and the 2nd vid kinda backs up the "we never went to the moon" theory, look at my sig.

Originally posted by x2Strongx
Sorry... I see the same object in both pictures...


*** Second Line ***

Ok look at picture 1 and 2..

Do you see a crack in the craft bottom left?
pretty big crack dude...
It magically dissapeared.

Look at last picture now.
The back half it sticking up above the front half maybe 2 foot.

Look at pic 1 and 2..
the front half is above or same height as back half.

Magic.

they are not all the same picture.


This was part of history.
And 3 picture's show 3 different thing's...
One dirty and dust covered.
Msnbc one no crack in front..and yellow top and clean enough to eat off of.

3rd pic..is gutted....
so what give's?

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

Same object, different photo angle, different shadow, different lighting conditions. Just look at the crater around it and you can see its exactly as it landed. I think you're looking for something out of nothing here.

Originally posted by x2Strongx
Sorry... I see the same object in both pictures...


*** Second Line ***

Realy??? you cant make out that there is a huge crack missing from the bottom picture? on the left side, Come on man thats so noticeable. I aint saying this is a ufo but its certainly strange that the crack has vanished.

Originally posted by Conon
Same object, different photo angle, different shadow, different lighting conditions. Just look at the crater around it and you can see its exactly as it landed. I think you're looking for something out of nothing here.

OK just for you...
A big crack.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b9211fb54965.jpg[/atsimg]
Look close...There is no giant crack what so ever.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8dc50a8173af.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/bc949867ec39.jpg[/atsimg]

It's not the same thing man.
Remember sesame street?
one of these thing's is not like the other!

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]

[edit on 4-9-2009 by TheAmused]