50 Cent

Whoever hear listens to Hip Hop, has most positively heard of 50 cent. Well, I was listening to my local hip hop station and they have this morning show. The 'main' guy did a show the other day saying that 50 Cent is the devil and 50 means Devil and his name means 'Devil Cent'=Cent by the Devil. Anyway, all he was saying is that 50 was representing the devil and that he is trying to destroy the truth and take over everything (I'm not quite sure what I'm saying here so don't blame me if I got it wrong). It actually was making some sense, because 50 has already been compared to 2Pac. Also, 50 has soled over 1 million records the first week his album came out. Some of this information might not be correct so believe what you want.

Well if hiphop is that Rap Crap then I say burn him whether he's evil or not, he destroys children's minds and urges them to do drugs, kill, and have sex treating women like hoes.

Sincerely,
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FreeMasson, I think hiphop and that rap crap are one in the same. I just don't see what they get out of that junk. I heard the lyries to a " rap crap" tune (for lack of a better word) the other day at my local red light. Two white teens in the car next to mine. The f--ken trunk was rattling so bad i thought the dam hinges were going to pop. The lyries went something like " pop a cap pop a cap pop a cap in his ass" I wanted to reach into my glove box and pull out my "prize"and "pop a cap in drivers ass" LOL. That " junk" is nothing more then pure evil, and it's pointed right at our youth!!.


[Edited on 29-11-2002 by Skeptical Believer]

See that's what I think.

I think anyone should be able to do to a rap listener, as what the rap listener is listening to.

So you hear the music, pull out your .45 and say "Does that say what I think it says?" then as they are smoking their tires going "Oh $hit OH $HIT" you blow out their tires and watch the sparks fly!!!

Sincerely,
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50 is the devil? Oh, no! What have I been spending my time listening to. I should have been listening to sex, drugs and rock n' roll instead. Is there any music that didn't start out as something risque? Jazz, Rock, Pop, etc... They all were thought of as something that converted the youth into doing something illegal. How many of you listen to the beatles? they were just as risque as 50, em or dre. They were major influences on the 60's and look how screwed up they were. Rap does not turn kids bad, it does not make them kill each other any more than before. The lyrics just tap into the youthful penchant for the forbidden, just as rock, jazz and elvis did in their times. The artists rap about things they experienced, you just dont want to admit that the ghetto exists. Many artists were once drug dealers who rose beyond their begginings to give back to their 'hood. Jay-z, Eric (Eazy-E) Wright RIP, 50 cent, they all were once dealers who went into the recording buisness and used the money from records to fix up their neighborhoods. Is this a bad thing?

By the way Get Rich or Die Trying is a good album, but it cannot compare to the Slim Shady LP or Chronic 2001.

MC XAOS

I listen to Rap,Pop,Rock ,Metal and not all of it is bad. There is some good rap out there. (I'v heard it before but I dont know where). I dont go out with my Magnum and start shooting everything I see do I.

Originally posted by FreeMason
I think anyone should be able to do to a rap listener, as what the rap listener is listening to.
So you hear the music, pull out your .45 and say "Does that say what I think it says?" then as they are smoking their tires going "Oh $hit OH $HIT" you blow out their tires and watch the sparks fly!!!

You're an amazingly narrow-minded little white boy, aren't you?

Rap is a genuine American urban art form, the roots of which are traced to the outer burroughs of New York City in the mid 1970's as street singers melodiously sang lyrically chopped poetry that reflected the street slang of a troubled time. Later in the 70's, beat-boxes added a steady rhythm and the rest is history.

Rap is not for you, just as country music (a corn-pone modification of the blues) is not for me.

There is much to loath about the current popular abhorrent noise many call rap and hip-hop. The art form has been hijacked and the culture is being ruined by it. However, there is still merit in a great deal of work as it has evolved and is credited for a resurgence in spoken word performance.

Your comments reflect a sadness in today's culture, an inability to recognize art, even if it's not art you yourself appreciate.

When asked to defend rap by my friends I tell them that rap is not solely about the lyrics. The lyrics could not exist without the beat and the beat could not exist without the lyrics. I think that the lyrics in much rap is violent, drug related, or in bad taste, but there is something about it that is enthralling. When you have a good, addictive beat, with lyrics that keep you listening, the music just doesnt get old. Rap, in the times that William speaks of, was about the message, about politics with groups like public enemy. Now rap is about the sound rather than the message. People who say that rap induces violence just cannot understand it. For me, every time I listen to a good song it gets better.

XASO

BTW, William, what hip-hop stye/artists do you like?

SAOX

Originally posted by xaos
BTW, William, what hip-hop stye/artists do you like?

SAOX

Party Rap, ala the original Sugar Hill.

Ok, comparing country to rap? Rap promotes drugs, murder, gangs, treating women like $hit, and cussing just to cuss. Country promotes hicks, rednecks, incest, and tractor fetishes.(My girl is in love with my tractor)

Rap isn't a style, an art form. In one song by Ludacris he says the F word over 30 times. How is that an art form? In one song Eminem kills his wife, mother, daughter, a few pedestirans, then himself. He talks about killing people just because they are gay. He teaches intolerance. How is that art? How is going "D@mn little b*tch I'm gonna F*cking kill you! Die b*tch die!" making art? I don't like rap, don't like country, but at least with country I don't learn three new ways to degrade women and two new ways to kill gays. Also don't learn how to string different cuss words together to make them sound, well, like alot of cuss words stringed together.

How is teaching little kids to call their teacher a b*tch art?(from Fox news, some inner city middle school had problems with respect for female teachers for the students((male ones)) kept calling them b*tches, c*nts, little whores, sluts, so forth)

William, rap may have started out in the 70's as actual music, but today the more cuss words they can get into a song the better. The more ways to degrade women the better. Rap is usually nothing more than shock for cash.

You still have some good rap, Will Smith, Sugar Hill(I looked them up, got some songs, actually sound good). But those are the rare few, the 5% that people use to say rap isn't bad, it an art form. You can't convince people that Eminem or Ludacris or Snoop Dog is a form of art, but Will Smith? Sure, so lets use him to protect the rest.

I usually respect and agree with you, but with rap(most) I am sorry, today rap is crap. Before, it may have been good, most of it may have been true music, but today it is cussing to a beat or killing to a beat or degrading others to a beat.(most is)

Listen, Will Smith was once good, not any more, he's an actor now and he can't rap, have you heard nod ya head, its horrible, the MIB and WWW themes were good but he just cant do it anymore, I'm not against Will as an actor, but he needs to stop rapping.

Rap is just as much of an art form as any other type of music, and you cannot say that it isnt. Some rap songs, I admit are very bad, and ludacris isnt my favorite. After a while you dont listen to the lyrics and just roll with the beat. Kim was a horrible song, but many other raps on the marshall mathers LP were great. I maintain that the way the artist use words with the beat to accentuate it and make it less monotonous is art. I ask that sometime you ask a friend that likes rap for a recommendation, and sit down and listen for a while to one song, over and over again. Listen to the beat, appreciate it, and notice how the artist makes the beat more able to listen to.

XAOS MC

Damn, nobody is talking about what the post is actually about

Okay, I will agree that older rap is an art form. Today's rap, anybody can do. That's why druggies do it. Because they can. It's an easy way to get rich. They don't want to do any more work than they have too, so they don't. My friend and I have discovered something. Today's rappers always sing about hoes, shoes, having sex, or killing somebody. COME ON! With country and rock, you have a wide variety of things to sing about. I'll volunteer to be strapped in front of a radio and be forced to listen to country for 24 hours. But rap and that #e? No way! I'd seriously kill myself before I do that.

Now, "on the topic". I don't think that the guy knew what he was talking about. 50 has to do with the devil like 69 has to do with the church. He was just being payed to say something....

homestarrunner.com...

That song is better than rap...

(idiocy)

everyone chooses what they listen to regardless of the lyrics. if it makes them kill things so be it. i can't stop it arguing bout it won't stop it so why are we? it will change nothing. it's great that you want to attack rappers who lead a shady life but that's what it is. you listen to rock and stuff and see it has messages just as extreme but targeted at a more 'white' demographic.

xaos saying that people who shot up schools didn't listen to rap isn't entirely true. the people who ambushed the school in arkansas at jonesboro listened to tupac and a few others if i remember, but that alone does very little to instruct them to kill people. ain't mad at ya, (one of the songs it said the killers listened to in a news report) doesn't even talk about killin people considering it was released after tupac was dead.

freemason, your attack about how i quote
"George Washington killed off half the Iroquoi and destroyed 48 of their near 50 settlements, just because they were raiding settlers in New England during the Revolutionary War...I think he'd probably do the same to these rappers, who attack america in a worse way then the Iroquoi did, they attack our very souls."

this is idiotic. if you think about things back then, the iraqious were incredibly justified in their raiding americans no matter how innocent they were. i'm pretty sure if you and your families had a place where you lived on the land respecting yourself and the nature around you, would probably try to kill the white 'colonist' invaders. just because this is our country we live in doesn't change the fact that that is what happened. we took their land by force sometimes and they merely did what it's humanly natraul to do. so don't use the idiotic attack which makes no sense. and i don't think washington would massacre his own people considering rap isn't a militant movement such as the KKK or other things that are equally dangerous and target our youth.

in response to the statement that governments used music as propaganda. yes that's true just as tv is used now to rally the us against war. just as art was used to rally people for wars. does this mean that a 'thug' nation is rallying people to conquer america? not neccessarily.

not all of the music is good but it still has it's points and cultural values to those who listen to it so yes attacking could be considered racism in a subtle way. just as i could be called racist against rural people for hating country music. that's just not my thing.



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Pheonix don't you dare soil the constitution by saying it protects these heathenes "rappers" who do nothing but destroy our great nation, and terrorize the good citizens of this country, and promote racism against whites.

George Washington killed off half the Iroquoi and destroyed 48 of their near 50 settlements, just because they were raiding settlers in New England during the Revolutionary War...I think he'd probably do the same to these rappers, who attack america in a worse way then the Iroquoi did, they attack our very souls.

In fact, I bet the first thing the Founding Fathers would do if they poofed into our time instantaneously, right into a rap concert, they'd shoot the Rapper dead, and start wondering what the hell is wrong with everyone there.

They'd then probably destroy Washington DC, and burn the constitution, when they realize it is being used to support such horror.

Sincerely,
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Oh Pheonix you just proved yourself an idiot.

you would know that lyrics have never changed the train of thought of the nations youth.

The Greeks limited the number of strings that were allowed on the lire, because they knew that (7 I think it was) allowed music that was sociably corruptive to be performed.

The Soviets the Nazis, hell every nation uses music one way or another to rally the masses to a cause.

Look at WW2, it was a time of posters, and marching music "OVER THERE!!! OVER THERE!!!"...

Look at Russia!

"�������, �ڕ��� ӓ������,"
"Stand up, Enormous Nation!"

Lyrics, drive nations, drive morals, drive humanity. Rap's Lyrics, promotes stupidity, and violence, damn it to hell.

Sincerely,
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Phoenix_cross, I am defintly not a racist. You can tell keep telling yourself that, I'm fine with that. I think I have enough experience listening to rap music to gather that it is morally downgrading.

"Listen to the beat, appreciate it...."

xaos, if the song was meant to be listened to because of the beat, WHY DO THEY HAVE LYRICS?

LoL what I think is hillarious is look at what Pheonix finishes his "argument" on.

Paraphrasing to make it shorter..."Discuss the full issue of rap here, before you discuss your views with someone else who likes rap and they shoot you."

Yeah....that's why rap sucks, case closed.

Sincerely,
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