Parents May Boycott Obama's Speech

Originally posted by notsosweet
The government should not have a say in the education of my children

It is worthy of note that if your children are enrolled in public school, the "government"
plays a huge role. Who do you think dictates course curriculums, dress codes, academic achievement criteria, accreditation standards and such things as SAT and GED exams?. Ever hear of the School Board or Commission?

I'm sorry, but you seem to not grasp the politics and structure entrenched within the public school system of this country.

Unless your children go to private schools, the government plays a substantial role.

Did you honestly not realize that or are you simply caught up in the Anti-Obama fervor?


[edit on 4-9-2009 by kinda kurious]

Well the Repubs have been saying stay home on the day of the speech which I bet is having an effect on fellow repubs... I don't agree with the activity that is supposed to go along with the speech though for K-6... Propaganda propaganda propaganda... Let's hope the speech is just a plea for the kiddies to get a good education so they can go somewhere in their life. That is all he needs to say.

This is absolutely ridiculous, no f-ing way is my son gonna sit through an hour of brainwashing by the messiah. That bastard can come visit personally and ask if he can speak to my kid, until then screw him. I'm so pissed about this, of course this isn't new, propaganda like this and the Hitler youth have been seen before, of course I hope we're smarter now and can begin to counter it. The guys colors have been shown, he's a traitor and a NWO thug. My kid isn't going near there, the scary part of this is so many parents are so out of touch and uninvolved their kids are gonna have to watch this and see the great fuhrer, it'll be peer pressure heaven to love Obama. Even if the kids are kept home, that's not enough we need to redouble our efforts at education and positive reinforcement, explaining to our kids that their friends are idiots, they're just kids, they don't know anything yet, and they need to have the strength to have their own beliefs. Obama knows this too and is counting on the peer pressure from the kids who did see him converting and warping the minds of the kids who haven't.

I think this is appropriate here...

If my kids were still in elementary school i would keep them home and take them to a museum or something. I simply don't agree with the man's politics, never have, and i don't trust him not to attempt to indoctrinate the children of this country. I think he has a hidden agenda here and i think it's the indoctrination of our children.

My sons are grown men now, but i will be informing my son about this so he knows what his children will see on their first day of school. I will also make sure that i discuss what they saw at school if he chooses to send them and make sure that they see any propaganda or indoctrination for what it is.


reply to post by SchefSalad

They never state why they dont like him (Obama) they just dont.

First i don't like his ties to criminals.

I don't like his Chicago type politics.

I don't like his Socialist agenda.

I don't like the way he's gotten this country even further into debt, instead of pulling us out of it.

I don't like the type of "change" that he wants for this country, nor the fact that he hasn't brought any good change to this country since taking office.

I don't like the fact that he promised to create jobs and the unemployment rate has almost doubled since he took office.

There are many more reasons why i don't like the man, but i beieve the ones that i have listed should be sufficient.

Now how about you list some of the reasons that you like him, and you have to list something more substantial than he's gonna bring us "change".

If he was white republican would you still have to sign a waiver to listen to a television broadcast.

What does his race have to do with it ? Why is it that anytime anyone has a problem with Obama, someone has to play the race card, it's getting very old and very tired. I know it may be hard for some small minded people to understand, but there are people that actually don't approve of him because of things that have absolutely nothing to do with his race, things like his political beliefs and his job performance.

You are the only person that has brought up the issue of his race in this thread. So perhaps you should be the one looking in the mirror to see what you're problem with race is


There shouldn't be any waiver needed at all because he should be addressing the nation as a whole, not just school children. It should be a national address on television during primetime when parents can decide if they want their children to watch or not. What he's doing is forcing children to listen to his "speech" and i'm sorry but that's something that is done in a communist country, not a free nation. The last time i looked America was suppossed to be a free nation.

Originally posted by gaborn415
This is absolutely ridiculous, no f-ing way is my son gonna sit through an hour of brainwashing by the messiah. That bastard can come visit personally and ask if he can speak to my kid, until then screw him. I'm so pissed about this, of course this isn't new, propaganda like this and the Hitler youth have been seen before, of course I hope we're smarter now and can begin to counter it.

After reading your post it confirms to me some are not. Smarter that is.

Comparing Obama to Hitler is abhorrent and without merit. An easy stretch for a simple, uneducated mind. Hitler was hell bent on world domination and the annihilation of an ethnic group of people. On the other hand President Obama is bringing positive change and healthcare reform to Americans.

To compare a sinister figure as Hitler to the POTUS is the epitome of absurdity.

Originally posted by kinda kurious

Originally posted by notsosweet
The government should not have a say in the education of my children

It is worthy of note that if your children are enrolled in public school, the "government"
plays a huge role. Who do you think dictates course curriculums, dress codes, academic achievement criteria, accreditation standards and such things as SAT and GED exams?. Ever hear of the School Board or Commission?

I'm sorry, but you seem to not grasp the politics and structure entrenched within the public school system of this country.

Unless your children go to private schools, the government plays a substantial role.

Did you honestly not realize that or are you simply caught up in the Anti-Obama fervor?


[edit on 4-9-2009 by kinda kurious]

You are correct sir. The govt. does play a huge role in public in education. That role is large enough that we do not need Obama stumping for his ideologies to a young, impressionable and captive audience. The textbooks in our classrooms are already full of rampant liberal lies that most parents don't even realize. The kids don't need to hear any more coming from Obama. We've already heard enough from him.

www.foxnews.com...

Keep the message simple. Study, respect your teachers and each other, do your homework and reach for the stars.

Better yet, Obama can give a little constitution lesson. Especially on the aspect of LIMITED powers of the executive branch.

reply to post by kinda kurious


Well, I could say so much here, but I will try to have a civilized discussion with you.

I'm not ignorant to the fact the government plays a role in the school system. Yes I have heard of the school board & the commission, I don't agree with most of their policies in our district, but its not like I can change them.

I still don't agree to the fact that the Nazi-like President wants to use his propaganda to exploit our children. If he wants to give a speech, give it during the evening so that parents can decide if they want their kids to watch it.

Would you be ok if the President came to your kids school and said ok kids, I brought some guns, lets have a lesson in 'fighting terrorism'. You go to war with a country like Afghanistan and stay there and get a whole bunch of people killed and spend trillions of dollars for what?

Or, Lets see how much money we can lose in a day, a week, a month.
Or, I want to teach you how to get control of the world by, oh lets see, oh yeah, by getting a Health Plan run by the government.

I won't go on, because I got off subject a little bit.

I would like to know KK, why do you like Obama so much? What great things has he done?

Originally posted by notsosweet
I still don't agree to the fact that the Nazi-like President wants to use his propaganda to exploit our children.

That statement is the epitome of ignorance. By referring to the POTUS as "Nazi-like" it is YOU that is spewing propaganda.

President Obama was the nominee of the Democratic Party. He duly defeated the opposing Republican candidate. Although I didn't invent it nor particularly endorse it, the political landscape of the American political system is basically a two party system within a democratic framework. In a nutshell, the accurate label is Democrat.

To degrade the sitting POTUS by likening him to a regime which was hell bent on world domination and ethnic cleansing is utterly deplorable.

Sore losers seem to be a desperate bunch of lunatics. I'm not sure what frightens me more. That they would deprive their children the opportunity to be enriched and educated or the mere fact they have children at all.

[edit on 4-9-2009 by kinda kurious]

He just wants to brainwash the little kids.He's already brainwashed the college students

reply to post by kinda kurious


Interestingly enough you either glossed over or missed the point there. I assume it was intentional that you attacked me for comparing Obama to Hitler, when if you look I never explicitly stated anything of the sort. I did mention that childrens brainwashing has been going on like the Hitler youth. Same actions, different men and times. I'm comparing actions not people, of course it's easier to throw a red herring and attempt to derail the argument rather than argue it based on the merits of the argument. Bravo!

reply to post by kinda kurious


And tell me what is it he's doing that's actually different from the types of power grabs and federal intrusions which took place under Nazi Germany? Sorry if you don't like it but his actions mimic quite well those taken by Hitler in Nazi Germany. Perhaps he doesn't want to kill millions, though with his population reduction cronies it's hard to tell, but his other actions are right on par with Nazi Germany. Particularly attempting to brainwash children by directly proselytizing to them. Point out to me where his actions differ from Nazi Germany before going on about respecting him.

reply to post by kinda kurious


Your talking to brick walls here, most them have no real idea what the speech is about or if it is good for their kids. they will pass down their ignorance to their children, and for that I feel bad. Logical arguments are one thing, but this nonsensical ranting just proves to me more and more everyday, this country is turning into a bunch of fox brainwashed monkeys.

PS I did not vote for Obama, and do not agree with a lot of his policies, but
I make my own decisions based on truths , not based on bias and pure political manipulation they are ALL falling for.

Its not about right or wrong anymore, its about right and left. and they should all be ashamed .

If you love this country, do not let the out of power party manipulate you. Stop hating everything someone does because of what side you THINK your on.

Originally posted by gaborn415
reply to post by kinda kurious

 

Point out to me where his actions differ from Nazi Germany before going on about respecting him.

Wow, that is just idiotic, your comparing a man who killed 10s of millions of people based on race, Religion and political beliefs. To some one who thinks Health care for all is good? Ohh I see big government intrusions you mean . Like what the Highways? Interstates, well I guess Hitler and the dems do have that in common, He built the Autobahn and FDR created jobs and built highways YOU travel on. Hmm Oh wait he popular.. and people listen to him THATS WHY.. OHHHH.. So in that same line of reasoning. Glenn Beck is Hitler correct? Right very popular, getting people all riled up and following him.

Hmm So tell me list the comparisons to Hitler please and I will find you 20 people you love with the same . Please do yourself a favor and wake up. Go outside.. Do something constructive. Stop listening to everyone else and just playing follow the leader.

What's funny is that a lot of people posting on this thread are getting their panties in a twist about comparing Obama to Hitler.

And just where were you all when Bush was getting compared to Hitler on a daily basis here on wonderful ATS?

Anyway, back to the thread. Post something funny; I need a good laugh.

reply to post by jerico65


That i agree with, comparing either man to Hitler is
(Boston accent) retarded

Originally posted by jerico65
What's funny is that a lot of people posting on this thread are getting their panties in a twist about comparing Obama to Hitler.

And just where were you all when Bush was getting compared to Hitler on a daily basis here on wonderful ATS?

Anyway, back to the thread. Post something funny; I need a good laugh.

Well, to be fair, when Bush was compared to Hitler he was lying to us in order to garner public support for two wars of aggression. When people compare Obama to Hitler, it's because he wants to give health care to 10 million uninsured children. I can see how that can be confusing to some people.

Also, (re: gaborn's post) if you are going to make a claim stating that our president is doing the same things as Hitler, you should back that up with facts. That's a substantial claim, and it requires you to make your case. You can't expect people to make a defense against wild allegations without stating your case first.

In either case, I refer to Godwin's Law.

Edit to clarify who I was addressing in the second paragraph.

[edit on 5-9-2009 by suicydking]

Just showing you why people are a bit turned off by Obama's interest in the kids. Especially given his never ending list of left wing radicals associates, advisers and mentors. It was Obama who said, "judge me by the people I surround myself with".

reply to post by Wimbly


I don't understand your point, other than trying to be inflammatory.

Both videos were filmed last year. Both were produced by individuals who, while admittedly are Obama supporters, had no affiliation with Obama or his campaign.

A quote regarding the first video:

"...this was taken at the school last year when Obama was beginning his campaign. He assured me that they stopped this "regiment" because they felt the person who was organizing it was pushing his political agenda."

The second was produced by a piano teacher in Los Angeles.

I understand how the videos seem to make an adequate comparison of Obama to Hitler, but only if taken out of context. Obama and his associates had absolutely nothing to do with the production or endorsement of either one. Posting them without explaining that is nothing but propaganda. You know, like the kind that fascists like to use.

I could just as easily post embarrassing videos of church congregations being asked to pray for Bush, but that would serve no purpose other than to exasperate the situation, save demonstrating that our leaders have no control over how people express their like or dislike for them.

reply to post by suicydking

I could just as easily post embarrassing videos of church congregations being asked to pray for Bush, but that would serve no purpose other than to exasperate the situation, save demonstrating that our leaders have no control over how people express their like or dislike for them.

Exactly and people (including me) made a huge deal of that one video. Search ATS, I guarantee there are multiple threads. Te difference now is that people are defending it and making excuses for Obama's extremist advisers.