Wal-Mart Shopper Slaps Crying Child

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by jd140

 

Well, my job as a parent FIRST is to try and discern WHY the child is crying.

If there is something physically wrong with the child my job is to comfort the child and get out of the store as quickly as possible.

If my child is just throwing a fit, I would choose number 2... but my children would listen to me. They always do.

Now which one do you think this parent chose.

Personally I'm glad that this kid got smacked by someone. As I said before that was probably the first and only time it will happen.

That is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yoruself.

There is NEVER a good reason to hit a child. Why do you think it is that the youth of this country grow up embracing violence? It's a cycle, friend, and a vicious one at that.

My kid or not, I will NEVER stand by if I witness something like this. ANd anyone who advocates it ought to have to step in the ring with someone equally bigger than them.

ATTENTION PLEASE

The Personal Snide Comments Need To Stop NOW....

Any further and action will be taken...

Thank you

Semper

reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic



Sorry I don't live in a world where everything is rainbows and candy canes all the time.

Don't spank your child. I don't care. Show me the same respect.

Guess what...when it comes to kids, there is no such thing as mind your own business. A person can held criminally liable (at least in TN, and I think in most states) if they have knowledge of child abuse and fail to report it. So, if I am in Wal-mart and I see someone slap their kid in the face, you can be damn sure I'm going to get involved and try and keep the kid from being further abused.

Report child abuse or suspected abuse to your local Department of Childrens' Services. No child deserves to be abused.

Ok, so i wasnt plain when i said "nice restaurant"....denny's aint it! Saying denny's is a nice restaurant is like saying walmart is a nice department store. Come on, no one goes to denny's for the "atmosphere". You go there to pay for cheap food.

An experience comes to mind, when i took a girl to a "nice restaurant".... i think it was houstons or something. At any rate, my lady and i were lookin forward to a nice dinner. Then, in comes some moron with his three wailin brats that sits at a booth right next to us. He then proceeds to put on headphones and tune out as the rest of us have to listen to his brats jumpin around, screaming and throwing sugar around. The gall of some parents is incredible, they dont want to deal with their children, and they have no problem subjecting the rest of us to the disruptions that they dont take the time to manage.

Sadly, i think more and more today parents forego their responsibility of teaching their kids discipline, while at the same time forbidding others to teach them either. Which is why I, working on a child and adolescent psych ward have such job security, i suppose.

I was a bit more timid at the time, and if that same situation happened now, i would ask the man to leave the restaurant, or to step outside with me so i could teach him some of the finer points of "discipline" that HIS parents obviously forewent with him.

It is one thing to be a parent, and to have difficult children. It is a whole other thing to have no consideration for the people around you.... To put on headphones because YOU dont want to hear your wailing brats, but not to care that others might not as well. Parenting is largely dead in the US, so perhaps if parents are not going to regulate themselves, and we are not allowed to regulate them, the law must step in like big daddy sammy, and nanny them to their proper place.

Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

Sorry I don't live in a world where everything is rainbows and candy canes all the time.

Don't spank your child. I don't care. Show me the same respect.

What does rainbows and candy have to do with not hitting children? Can you actually converse on the subject, or is this going to be completely rhetorical?

What respect would you like me to show you? I don't get it....

reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic


Ok let me rephrase.

It is none of your buisness how I feel about the way a child be raised. I respect your choice not to spank your child. I don't agree with it, but will show you respect by not calling you a bunch of names. I would like you to respect my choice and keep your mouth shut.

Now if that isn't clear enough for you I can be a little more straightforward. I caution you that route will not be as polite and will need to be in the form of a U2U so that I will not be banned.

When I was a kid it was the duty for people to tell off any kids that were out of hand, even give them a slap if they really needed it.

He should have slapped the mother

Joking aside, it takes a villiage to raise a child. Half of the social problems we see today with ferral youth is because of people not getting involved. But slapping a 2 year old.......that's a bit much

reply to post by semperfortis


It is kinda' hard not to make posts about a poster when the poster in question is advocating child abuse on the forum.
Just sayin.

Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

Ok let me rephrase.

It is none of your buisness how I feel about the way a child be raised. I respect your choice not to spank your child. I don't agree with it, but will show you respect by not calling you a bunch of names. I would like you to respect my choice and keep your mouth shut.

Now if that isn't clear enough for you I can be a little more straightforward. I caution you that route will not be as polite and will need to be in the form of a U2U so that I will not be banned.

Oh thats plenty clear-it's clear that you are self-centered and narcisistic. YOu NEVER have the right to hit another persons child, and, as someone who works in child welfare, it is not only my right, but it is my OBLIGATION AND LEGAL DUTY to intercede in child abuse.

Using an argument such as "i dont tell you to abuse your child, dont tell me not to abuse mine" is moot and irrelevant. There are laws about such things, whether you like it or not.

will not be as polite and will need to be in the form of a U2U so that I will not be banned.

Just to clarify and possibly prevent anyone losing their posting privileges...

U2U's are subject to the Terms and Conditions as well...

No need for anyone to resort to violations of the Terms and Conditions for any reason.

Semper

One the note of bratty children in stores annoying people.

How about the oblivious people who are annoyed when they almost run over a child when they are the oblivious one.

When one is less capable than young children of controlling themselves or a cart, perhaps the problem isn't the CHILD but the oblivious adult who cannot be bothered to grow the hell up.

reply to post by semperfortis


I was being sarcastic.

But thanks for the clarification.

reply to post by SpacePunk


crotch fruit .... I'm LMAO! I can't stop . . . crotch fruit . . . .

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by dooper

 

Doop, as usual, I entirely agree! My 3 year old now tells me, "No dada don't tell me your gonna spank me!" He knows that I will do it, and as you said, I almost never have to. I only have to whisper in his ear!

There's an awful lot of insanity on these boards nowadays.

An insane man strikes a child in the face rather than walking away, more insanity is expressed by posters claiming that a crying 2 year old is a sign of bad parenting, and a further bunch of insane adult individuals comment on the benefits of inflicting emotional and physical pain on 2 year olds, as if it's a walk in the park.

I am deeply saddened by this thread.

reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic


Okay, thanks for your opinion.

goodbye.

reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic


Ok, people are probably going to get mad at me for this but alas I have a big mouth and a big nose and both poke into others' business.

Child abuse: The mental health journal states that child abuse is defined as “any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation, an act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm".

Simply slapping, spanking, or physical discipline of the child is not child abuse. A slap is different from a hit. A slap just leaves a red mark or a welt. A hit leaves a bruise or worse. Yes I'd report it if I see a parent hit a child, but I'd respect a parent that slaps their child for proper disciplinary reasons.

reply to post by RogerT


Roger, I raised my kids to be respectful, quiet, not to interrupt their elders, to do what they were told WHEN they were told, without any lip or foot-dragging.

I'd blister their butts even before two years old.

Friends told us that they didn't believe in spanking, read the latest child psychology crap, and raise their sons who were the same age as mine.

Just out of high school, the oldest son went to prison for life for being a party to murder. He was always in trouble, he never, ever had proper boundaries, and since he was never truly punished and disciplined, he had no respect for anyone or anything.

Folks who don't believe in firm discipline can do what the hell they want. But don't be surprised if your little undisciplined monster has a very, very unpleasant life.

I much rather impart a bit of unpleasantness on my kid's ass at a very early age, just so we get the rules down pat and understood, than keep having in later years to troll my kid's bail (as IF) or visiting them in prison.

I'll get flamed big time here, but there are many good lessons one can find in the Old Testament and New. "Spare the rod and spoil the child." It's just as true as it was some 3,000 years ago.

Do it when they're small, and you won't have to do hardly a thing as the grow older. But make believers out of them right out of the gate, and NEVER miss a misbehavior without it being severely punished.

My Daddy taught me: Your children reflect the job YOU did. Don't get lazy on them, and they won't get slack on behavior later on.

Originally posted by furzball
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic

 

Ok, people are probably going to get mad at me for this but alas I have a big mouth and a big nose and both poke into others' business.

Child abuse: The mental health journal states that child abuse is defined as “any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation, an act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm".

Simply slapping, spanking, or physical discipline of the child is not child abuse. A slap is different from a hit. A slap just leaves a red mark or a welt. A hit leaves a bruise or worse. Yes I'd report it if I see a parent hit a child, but I'd respect a parent that slaps their child for proper disciplinary reasons.

Thats very much a matter of debate. Do you think a 2-year old that gets slapped by a full grown, angry stranger will not have nightmares about that? Do you think that will not stay with them, at least for a while?

Does this not constitute emotional harm? Do a grown man raising his hand at a 2-year old not ABSOLUTELY fall into imminent risk of serious harm?

Also, a stranger striking someone elses child is not only abuse, it is assault.

Again, I have to ask, why do you think the children in this country grow up embracing violence? It's because as a country we still havent figured out that violence begets violence.

But hey, it's only a welt, right?

www.thesmokinggun.com...

Here's the police report. Looks like it wasn't a single slap.