Terror suspect Ahmad Vahidi set to become Ahmadinejad's Defence Minister

Terror suspect Ahmad Vahidi set to become Ahmadinejad's Defence Minister

A former Revolutionary Guard commander wanted by Interpol for masterminding the worst terrorist attack in Argentina looks set to become the new Iranian Defence Minister after parliament signalled that it would confirm the provocative choice.

General Ahmad Vahidi is alleged to have planned the bombing of a Jewish centre in Buenos Aires in 1994 when he commanded the Quds force, a unit of the Revolutionary Guard responsible for foreign operations. He is one of five Iranians sought in the bombing in which 85 people died. Iran denies that it was involved.

Source: Times Online

It seems that Ahmadinejad is just going out of his way to annoy the West. What purpose does this appointment have other than to further antagonise what is already a delicate situation?

And what further proof does the world need that Iran and its allies (Syria, Lebanon, Libya) are extremely hostile towards Israel and the West?

One member of parliament, Hadi Qavami, interrupted General Vahidi's speech to say that he had initially opposed the nomination but changed his mind after "the Zionists' allegations" and would now vote for him. The comment drew praise and chants of "Death to Israel!" from other deputies.

In the words of Bollo, "I got a bad feeling about this".

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Good thing you brought up this topic Matt. It brings into light the heinous atrocities committed by the regime. Not only does it show that they have been meddling into the affairs of other nations by supporting terrorism at various fronts, now they go all the way into bringing terrorists to their government. It's sad...many of their own people oppose this and had hoped for a change when they sided with the opposition and look what happened to them, they got slaughtered by their own people. If we let off our guard, I'm sure we are gonna be shot in the back

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Originally posted by mattpryor

Terror suspect Ahmad Vahidi set to become Ahmadinejad's Defence Minister

A former Revolutionary Guard commander wanted by Interpol for masterminding the worst terrorist attack in Argentina looks set to become the new Iranian Defence Minister after parliament signalled that it would confirm the provocative choice.

General Ahmad Vahidi is alleged to have planned the bombing of a Jewish centre in Buenos Aires in 1994 when he commanded the Quds force, a unit of the Revolutionary Guard responsible for foreign operations. He is one of five Iranians sought in the bombing in which 85 people died. Iran denies that it was involved.

Source: Times Online

There are 4 words that stand glaring from that whole article..

"General Ahmad Vahidi is alleged.."

That is the disclaimer for an article written in such a way as to incite the desired response...no proof stated, no proof needed, just add the word "alleged" and make up a news column to reinforce an agenda and manufacture public consent

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You're right, nothing's proved, because he hasn't been tried - but Interpol still has a red letter warrant for his arrest.

Interpol Wanted Poster

The very fact that Iran knows this too well (it is supposedly a member of Interpol), and has appointed him in spite of the fact, should ring very loud alarm bells.

[edit on 2-9-2009 by mattpryor]

From what I have read of the Argentine bombing, there was plenty to suggest the work of "friendly" intel units rather than the usual suspects.
That said, anything that gets nasty old Iran back in the headlines is gonna be front page material, true or otherwise.

There is really no real news these days, just assumtptions, speculation and outright lies used to sell a particular agenda. Anyone really investigating issues gets canned very quickly if it doesn't follow the corporate line. Such is the case with Iran who, lets be honest, haven't invaded anyone as far as I can tell. Real terrorists work for, and direct our own governments, on a daily basis from comfy air conditioned offices.

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I think we would agree that our own (British) government, like so many others these days, is incompetent, reactionary, populist and to an extent corrupt. But to suggest that any Western government, which always ultimately has to answer to its own population, is malevolent to the extent that they would deliberately harm their own populations is frankly hysterical and paranoid.

The people that run Iran, Syria, Libya, Venezuela, and so many other despotic, tyrannical regimes, do not like you. They do not like your way of life. They do not like the influence your government or your culture has on their own populations. They are not your friends and they don't want you as their friend unless you serve their political purposes.

We'll wake up to this fact sooner or later, but by then I suspect it will be too late to speak up about it.

Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by Taikonaut

 

You're right, nothing's proved, because he hasn't been tried - but Interpol still has a red letter warrant for his arrest.

A warrant of arrest is not in itself a burden of proof.

A trial requires evidence to determine a verdict

the word "alleged" does nothing but lead the reader down a path of speculation to a pre-determined conclusion

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I'm not arguing whether he's guilty or not. I'm not arguing whether Interpol is correct in issuing a warrant for his arrest. That's a matter that should be decided in a court of law.

What bothers me about this is that Iran knows that he is wanted for the cold blooded murder of Jews in Argentina. And yet Iran went ahead and appointed him as their defence minister.

Seriously, does that not strike you as extremely worrying? If not, I'm curious as to why not?

Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by Taikonaut

 

I'm not arguing whether he's guilty or not. I'm not arguing whether Interpol is correct in issuing a warrant for his arrest. That's a matter that should be decided in a court of law.

What bothers me about this is that Iran knows that he is wanted for the cold blooded murder of Jews in Argentina. And yet Iran went ahead and appointed him as their defence minister.

Seriously, does that not strike you as extremely worrying? If not, I'm curious as to why not?

Iran only 'knows' he is wanted, based on an Interpol or other agency arrest warrant. But since when did a warrant for arrest determine guilt?

Adding the emotive words 'cold blooded murder of jews' does nothing to strengthen the case of alleged involvement, only irrational hysteria

What DOES strike me as extremely worrying is the news media being used to manipulate public opinion to validate an agenda, and that is, to manufacture consent to diplomatic/economic/military or other action against the nation of Iran

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Okay, so a member country of Interpol recruiting a man on the Interpol wanted list as defence minister is not a news worthy story in your view? Is anything related to Iran okay to talk about, or should we not discuss that country at all?

As usual an informative thread on the Iranian regime will probably turn into discussions on evil western plotters going after Iran. I've found it almost impossible to discuss the regime on ATS, as too many simply ignore this regime's actions because often they believe the regime propaganda of blaming the west and Israel for everything.

People here will often ask for evidence from Israel to prove that they are "not" interfering in matters, yet will take all Iranian regime claims serious enough to consider them. It's utterly absurd and illogical to set these kinds of pre-determinations, and expect somebody to disprove a negative.

The supreme leader actually admitted on Iranian state tv fairly recently that the protests weren't instigated by foreigners. And the day after Mr. Ahmadinejad released a statement blaming foreign spies. It's ridiculous and quite frankly pathetic, and the regime are falling apart at the highest levels. That's an observation from the way they are behaving, and I've said this for weeks. The evidence is stacking up massively in favour of that being correct.

I should also point out the news stories on mass unmarked graves found in Iran, where as many as 400 people who disappeared in June/July are probably buried. At the time I stated deaths are going to be in the hundred, not the 30 figure that is offically stated.

Controversy over “mass-grave” claim continues in Iran



Check youtube for more videos of these graves.

Many victims speaking out have said whilst in prison they were raped - both men and women. And that top leaders including Ahmadinejad were involved in these disgusting crimes. Many women prisoners were also executed after being raped, and a few of those that have been released have commited suicide because they could not live after the way they have been treated.

Ahmadinejad has called one of his ministers a "peach" on state tv. This term is used to describe beautiful women, so I think when Ahmadinejad said a few years back that there were no homosexuals in Iran, that this is incorrect - as he is likely one! (Horrible visions of Ahmadinejad attempting to impregnate male prisoners!)

I'm not surprised at the appointments that Ahmadinejad is making, and I think the education minister appointment has a fake degree from University of Manchester. The regime has shut down the University of Tehran for a few months as they may fear intellectuals gathering to discuss ways to defeat this despicable regime.

So I'm not surprised a wanted killer is an appointment as defence minister, as Ahmadinjad is also suspected of assassination in western europe. Being former members of the Basij and revolutionary guards, these kinds of pasts are frequent for regime politicans.

Recently a shipment of arms was stopped in the gulf from N.Korea, so it seems that the regime aren't going to settle for diplomacy, and with the US training Arab states nearby to fly the F16 fighter jets, it seems that the west are also preparing for an inevitable war after attempts of tough sanctions through the UN. And Russia and probably China will most likely not agree to boycott Iranian oil, even after a possible cancellation of the missile defence shield in eastern europe. It would be too much of a loss for them both in terms of economic and political terms, and make them look weak at a time when the west is at its weakest as well.


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It's evil Israel's fault, and he never said he wants to wipe Israel off the map.

Poor Iran, Hamas, etc. Picked on by the big bad bully of the middle east.

How is my role playing?

Just figured everything that happens in the middle east is always Israel's fault . . . .

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
It's evil Israel's fault, and he never said he wants to wipe Israel off the map.

It was along the lines of "disappear from the pages of time" and chants of "death to Israel". I think Israel have every right to not want islamic fanatics to possess nukes.

It's not only their aggression towards Israel that plays a part, it's the constant regime oppression towards those who dare to speak out against the supreme leader that shows them for what they really are - cowardly dictators!

Poor Iran, Hamas, etc. Picked on by the big bad bully of the middle east.

How is my role playing?

Just figured everything that happens in the middle east is always Israel's fault . . . .

It would be nice if you could find actual facts that backed up those statements beyond mild misinterpretations of the truth, where in some people's realities Israel should sit there and let themselves be attacked.

[edit on 3-9-2009 by john124]

He was being sarky John

Originally posted by mattpryor
He was being sarky John

I know it was early morning

Sorry . . .


The internet does not show sarcasm too well