Mythbusters Blocked From Revealing RFID Myths

reply to post by and14263


You are absolutely correct! The RFID technology is already in a lot of stuff we use everyday!! My Camry has a push button start (no key), that is RFID! The "QuickPass" variation of Credit Cards that make gas pumps so convenient are RFID!

Just think how many good CC#'s you could get by setting a scanner up in an old McDonalds Sack on a gaspump for a day!!

Want to steal a car? Sit in a parking lot with your scanner and watch for any one of dozens of new cars that have push button start! Then just walk up, get in, and drive away!

I still think the crushing of the story was more nefarious though!! It comes down to not derailing the master plan of getting these things into our bodies for commerce and healthcare! They will continue to bombard us with all the positive aspects while they bury and fix the problems until the majority of people will be lining up wanting the next implant!!

reply to post by quackers

There is zero chance of the UK population standing in line to be chipped.

3000 people in the UK lined up at a nightclub to volunteer to get chipped for VIP entry and drink specials!!

Don't underestimate the gullibility of the population in any country!! I would like to think that the Southern US states would rebel in a pinch, but in reality I know that the majority will get the chip if it is required for Medicare, Social Security, or Welfare. Then the working middle class will get it to provided for their kids. Then the young parents will get it in their babies at the encouragement of the doctors. Pretty soon, it will just be a few of us loonies that don't have it!

reply to post by quackers


Just the fact that you have made 125 posts in less than four months on a conspiracy based website means you are not the average Joe.

Your perception from observed behaviours is that the majority of people are against the RFID. My perception is different... it doesn't really matter who is right. An important factor is the influence the media can and will have over people's opinions on subjects like these.

I have no evidence other than from people I meet and my life experience but for some reason I look around me and see people who could easily be manipulated into thinking the RFID is ok.

You however are most definitely not one of these people.

www.theregister.co.uk...

www.guardian.co.uk...

www.google.com...

www.rfidbuzz.com...

Just a couple of quick searches for "RFID Nightclub" brought up these clubs in Glasgow and Barcelona! This is just for fun and novelty, imagine when government benefits are tied to the chips! There won't be any mass resistance to it!

reply to post by and14263


Yeah, I have the program on my mobile phone

Pretty handy at times, the only downside is the other person must add you as a bluetooth device by pairing with your phone before you can access theirs.. Lets the program down a little...

reply to post by and14263


I feel the general public, for the most part, draw a clear line in the sand when it comes to RFID. Certainly more people are becoming aware of the potential civil liberties risks involved. They have little issue when RFID operates at mere convenience, but attitudes soon change once it starts to infringe on their privacy.

3000 people lining up to be chipped means nothing to me, too interested in their own greed that they would sell themselves out for a few drinks and some music. I refuse to believe they represent the wider populace, and would put it down to a publicity stunt to create the illusion we find it acceptable, when the opposite is true.

reply to post by and14263


You might like this thread and I have several others on Verichip in my profile.

To Be Chipped, Or Not? Owning Stock In Your Own Verichip, And Politics

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by and14263

 

You might like this thread and I have several others on Verichip in my profile.

To Be Chipped, Or Not? Owning Stock In Your Own Verichip, And Politcs

Hehe, I was just reading some of this.
Sorry I didn't rep you in the OP, I just did a quick search. Some good reading in your links, I feel I will be engrossed for sometime.

reply to post by quackers


I saw someone on a thread yesterday that said the same about Direct Deposit! And paying bills over the computer! And Automatic Drafts! And paying for everything with Plastic!
Gold-->Silver Notes-->Paper Money-->Checks-->Credit Cards-->Debit Cards-->Automatic Drafts-->Chips?

People said Self Check-out lines would never work, but then they dumbed down the cashiers to the point that we wanted to do it ourself!!

When Welfare first went to Debit Cards in New England there was outrage......or wait, maybe there wasn't?

When Social Security Numbers started getting issued at birth, parents went crazy.......or maybe they didn't even notice!?

Those stainless steel Emergency Bracelets were a Godsend for people with certain conditions, imagine how much better an RFID with your entire Medical History will be!

For those of you that don't think this is inevitable, I say ask around, see how many people you know would actually refuse it if the doctors and bankers made it mandatory?

reply to post by quackers

It has occured to me that we are probably two very different people. Not that it matters, I just forget sometimes that others have such different views from me.

3000 people lining up to be chipped means nothing to me, too interested in their own greed that they would sell themselves out for a few drinks and some music. I refuse to believe they represent the wider populace, and would put it down to a publicity stunt to create the illusion we find it acceptable, when the opposite is true.

What you say here, for me, is a reason the populace would end up receiving chips. Their materialistic goals which have been conditioned by society means a simple 'stunt' would be all it would take to chip the nation.

Maybe a couple of stunts... Those who have a chip get entrance to the Hammonds sales an hour earlier than those who don't. Those who have chips get a free big mac with every order. In order to receive organ donations you need to be chipped... etc etc.

However...

Maybe I have a negative outlook on the population, it has been pointed out to me before, I always assume the worst in the UK population. Although I do avoid calling them shee....

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reply to post by and14263



Indeed we are very different people. I refuse to sell my people short, and give them slightly more credit on their ability to think for themselves than perhaps you do. Time will tell who is correct.


news.bbc.co.uk...

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lol sorry i had to laugh if these chips are so vulnerable then why dont people buy small pieces of faraday mesh wrapp it around ur wallet and hey presto no amount of probing will ever get ur data becuase the mesh acts like a emp shield ie no signals can get in or out.

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Originally posted by loner007
lol sorry i had to laugh if these chips are so vulnerable then why dont people buy small pieces of faraday mesh wrapp it around ur wallet and hey presto no amount of probing will ever get ur data becuase the mesh acts like a emp shield ie no signals can get in or out.

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Guess this would work. A Faraday glove or something, unless the chip is in your head then you'd need a helmet or something. I guess if we ever reached the point that the chip needed scanning for us to buy something then we could be tracked by our purchasing behaviour.
I don't know but if I end up getting chipped I'll look into this.

reply to post by and14263


I actually was thinking of this last night when my wife became concerned about the chip for the first time ever!

I could cut the chip out and conceal it in something that could be carried. That way, I could have the benefits of it, but I would not actually be chipped. From a religious standpoint, I don't know if that gets me off the hook with the Mark of the Beast and all, but from a Conspiracy standpoint, I would still have some choices and freewill about when and where I chose to use the chip!

If I'm not mistaken you can buy thin card sized envelopes to put RFID embedded cards in, for this reason. On the flip side there is some cool vids on youtube and such showing how to remove the RFID and place it in something else, like a chip from a travel card into an umbrella handle.

Envelopes; link

Vid; link

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Simple, get static wrap (the grey/silver stuff that computer equipment like hard drives ship in) and cut it to form the 'pocket' you want to put stuff in. You can even make it look fancy or line your existing wallet with it.
EMI Shielding Wallet

VeriChip is working on implantable RFID capsules that will be able to detect a virus in the person's body. There have been a lot of questions lately regarding how one would prove that they've been vaccinated against H1N1. Maybe it would be with RFID? Just a thought.

www.wnd.com...

Another issue I haven't seen mentioned yet is the very real and substantial risk of contracting cancer from those little abominations. Just like the slimy cell phone industry, they'll deny and obfuscate the truth until people start dying and figuring out their terminal tumors had everything to do with their implanted transponders that beamed out radiation 24/7/365. Would you implant a constantly-transmitting cell phone in your head? They've already determined that the pet verichips cause malignant cancers.

reply to post by getreadyalready

imagine when government benefits are tied to the chips! There won't be any mass resistance to it!

IMO That's precisely the reason why the story got crushed. Proponents of the RFID chip do not want people to lose 'confidence' on this kind of technology before they can massively implement it.

It's better off to attach government benefits to something that have full confidence from the people. Pure psychology.

Good point.

reply to post by ribaldmalarky


RFID doesn't constantly broadcast. It is "excited" when it gets in proximity to a scanner. But, to answer your question, I can easily foresee applications of the cell phone being implantable and rechargeable from your basic body chemistry and kinetics! I can also see the chip getting more powerful and connecting you to a grid at all times. There was a thread the otherday about Contact Lenses with a "Heads up" display!

Imagine, your Chip, your Cell Phone, your Heads Up display all being ingrained into your body and having access to all your personal files as well as the internet at all times without using your hands! All the While, Tiny nanobots could circulate in your blood and seek out viruses or rogue cancer cells, repair damaged tissues, and autonomously create new synapses in your brain for upgraded versions of your chip/network!

It is fast becoming a plausible reality, and by and large, people won't resist it! Pretty Scary!

How will you compete at your job or your university when everyone else is biometrically tapped into a wealth of information that you don't have?