Andromedan Presence near Earth [pt. 1]

Originally posted by guitarhero4rox
I am a big fan of Alex Collier. I have seen all his interviews.

I was wondering if he really is legit and he really is in contact with andromedans?

Like he says we have been manipulated for thousands of years, the earth is hollow and reptilians live down there, the moon was brought here from another solar system, and stuff like that, is it all true?

Also if most of the INFO he gives is true and if not, can you explian what isnt true?

Last, im kind of confused, are u an andromdan?

And do our governments really care for US? I thought they were selfish and would do anything to have power?

[edit on 9/1/2009 by guitarhero4rox]

Alex Collier is, to the best of my knowledge, quite legit. There is however, some amount of misunderstanding associated with him. His Andromeda Council for instance...These people are NOT from Andromeda. They are a group that consists of several species, many of which are of Lyran descent. Lyra is sort of generally in the direction of the Andromeda galaxy, but still in the Milky Way galaxy.

As far as I know there is no evidence to support the idea of a "hollow Earth", or any Reptilian beings living there. Not saying its impossible, but, I would think highly unlikely. Also concerning the moon...terrestrial science has determined that it is a chunk of the Earth that was "knocked loose" several billion years ago by a "mars sized" object. I don't really have any information on this, sorry.

Yes! I am Andromedan. A species called "Andromds". Though when I say "we" or "my people" I'm referring to a collection of people, several different species that make up a sort of collective.

And, do your governments really care for you? I think in a sense they do, but they are selfish, and WILL do anything they can for power. It's the ole human greed thing getting in the way.

reply to post by Agree2Disagree

For my next question - Why us?

Humans are quite innovative, tenacious, and intelligent. In the short time I've been here you have managed to drive yourselves into space. With the aid of reversed engineered ET technology you have built a small fleet of true starships (though you have yet to venture beyond your own solar system). This qualifies you as at least a minor space power. True by ET standards its not much, but it does show your ability to drive forward.

And, when you decide to, you can all work together quite nicely. The things you need to do is end all the secrecy and get control of your own world back.

Reply to post by AnthraAndromda

Interesting.

The triangular shaped ships are the 'starships' we reverse-engineered, correct?

Also, is it possible for me personally to contact another Andromedan? I know there are quite a few astralpedia guides to ET and higher self connectivity and communication. Do you think Andromds are likely to respond back? If not, who do you think would be most likely to respond? Or is it even possible?

Thanks again.


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reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Okay, thankyou.

Before i ask you anymore, i would like to know why.

Why are you "teaching" us? Why have you chosen now. Do you have some sort of mission here? Eg, your mission to enlighten as many as possible? There has to be some reason that you just came out the blue, will all this info.

I once had a contact who was half human, half alien. He was incarnated into a human body, with a Et soul. His soul was from Scorpio. Well, so he told me. After some time, i found out that he was evil, and channelling information from Greys. I now alot of the info he told me was legit - it had to be to get me interested. He had a secret agenda hidden, one which i almost fell into.
Aparently he was a part of the "Galactic Confederation" which helps Earth. Currently about 12 ships are on there way to Earth to help us out with the coming times.

He taught me alot, but then again, almost completely decieved me.

And this is were you and him are similar. The only proof you have is faith. The only way i'm gonna know right from wrong, is to have faith. Follow my heart. Faith is the ultimate tool.
Hmmm.

Anyway, i think im fairly sorted for what i want to know. I mean, the only thing that really concerns me is wisdom.
But, that is something that only I can bring myself. And i like it that way. If someone could just tell you exactly how life works, life wouldn't be as beautiful as it is.

So yeah, thanks for the info, carry on.

Love&Light

Jacob

reply to post by There Once Was Man

I dislike having to disagree with such erudite extraterrestrials as the Andromedans, but I wholeheartedly believe that the majority of humanity isn't worth a plugged nickle*.

They are a greedy inconsiderate and spiteful species bent on violence to further themselves at every turn. Very few, and I mean VERY few actually care about anything other than themselves and what personally benefits them right now. They have no care for the immediate future nor even a concern for the well-being of their own children.

And this makes you different, or not deserving how? I assure you most to ALL other species have gone through the same phases as you Humans, we made it, you can too. [my people have seen over 100,000 years of real peace, others can say similar things].

Don't think that humans are not worth a plugged nickle, when they are in fact capable of rising above their current condition to become something truly great.

I beg you, Andromedans, to reconsider allowing such lowly creatures as mankind generally represents into the greater galactic community. They are simply not ready for it.

Ready or not you are pushing yourselves into the stellar community, we are simply trying to make that transition easy for everyone. If you are welcomed, then perhaps you won't come with your guns blazing.

As for the rest of it...its not a decision for Andromedans to make, it is up to your local stellar community. Trust me, they will set the standards that humans must live up to.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


So i have to ask is the galactic federation of light people that come on ATS to tell similar stories real or are they hoaxers?

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by guitarhero4rox
I am a big fan of Alex Collier. I have seen all his interviews.

I was wondering if he really is legit and he really is in contact with andromedans?

Like he says we have been manipulated for thousands of years, the earth is hollow and reptilians live down there, the moon was brought here from another solar system, and stuff like that, is it all true?

Also if most of the INFO he gives is true and if not, can you explian what isnt true?

Last, im kind of confused, are u an andromdan?

And do our governments really care for US? I thought they were selfish and would do anything to have power?

[edit on 9/1/2009 by guitarhero4rox]

Alex Collier is, to the best of my knowledge, quite legit. There is however, some amount of misunderstanding associated with him. His Andromeda Council for instance...These people are NOT from Andromeda. They are a group that consists of several species, many of which are of Lyran descent. Lyra is sort of generally in the direction of the Andromeda galaxy, but still in the Milky Way galaxy.

As far as I know there is no evidence to support the idea of a "hollow Earth", or any Reptilian beings living there. Not saying its impossible, but, I would think highly unlikely. Also concerning the moon...terrestrial science has determined that it is a chunk of the Earth that was "knocked loose" several billion years ago by a "mars sized" object. I don't really have any information on this, sorry.

Yes! I am Andromedan. A species called "Andromds". Though when I say "we" or "my people" I'm referring to a collection of people, several different species that make up a sort of collective.

And, do your governments really care for you? I think in a sense they do, but they are selfish, and WILL do anything they can for power. It's the ole human greed thing getting in the way.

Actually, he never said it was just andromedans. If u listen, he actaully says it consists of more than just the andromedan race, but it includes others too.


Do you know the andromedans that he has been in contact with?

How many times have our leaders said they were going to disclose info, but then changed their minds?

And how close r we to disclosure?

if you are extra-terrestrial, you would know who i am? you would know who my father is, and you would know why i am allowed here. who am i?

Reply to post by DOADOA

I am not even an ET yet I can simply answer your questions.

You are whomever you choose to be.
Your father is my father. The One father.
You are allowed to be here because you were PUT here.
You are whomever you choose to be.

Sorry for the thread derail.


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Thank you for responding to my original question. I do have others, I'm sure we all do.

I have always wondered if humans are originally form this planet or if we were engineered. Also, What is really on Mars.... i mean is there really a face and pyramids and stuff. If so why are they there. Finally, what were the pyramids on this planet used for, not just the ones in Egypt.... I doubt just for burying old kings.

On a side note I also live in Texas... why did you choose Texas?

[edit on 1-9-2009 by Topsy_Cret]

reply to post by JacobNH

Why are you "teaching" us? Why have you chosen now. Do you have some sort of mission here? Eg, your mission to enlighten as many as possible? There has to be some reason that you just came out the blue, will all this info.

Why am I "teaching"? I've been asked to assist in the dissemination of what would otherwise be classified information. I am in a rather unique position as the Terran governments and corporations cannot control the information I receive or communicate. Course it also means that I only have one side in all this, I don't get to know all that the governments know; only the alien factions.

Why now? That is something that was determined by all of y'all. This is happening now because Hunamity is now ready.

MY mission...was originally to get to know the human species. I was placed here some 62 years ago as a new born to grow and learn. The rest of what I'm doing is a "special request" from the Dept. of the Navy [this is of course "classified" info and no corroboration is possible at this time...maybe someday].

reply to post by zaiger

So i have to ask is the galactic federation of light people that come on ATS to tell similar stories real or are they hoaxers?

The only interaction I've had with Ashtar was back in the early 90's. They seemed sincere enough, though I had some "off" feelings, though not in respect of any hoaxing or other issues like that. I think that those who are involved with them today would have to be evaluated to see how sincere they truly are.

Anyway, I know little about them and prolly shouldn't speak about it.

reply to post by guitarhero4rox

Do you know the andromedans that he has been in contact with?

If he has been in contact with any Andromedan faction, my people would know about it. Andromeda has a central government (of sorts) and information is freely shared galaxy wide. I've not heard of any contact with him, and D'Arna-Shat reports none. I would like to meet and talk with Mr. Collier, he sounds interesting.

How many times have our leaders said they were going to disclose info, but then changed their minds?

And how close r we to disclosure?

I don't think we could count how many times the governments of earth have thought to disclose, and then changed their minds.

As for how close we are now? I think very. The US has been given several untimatums, several other countries have disclosed much of their records. All that is really left is for the US to do the same. Dr Greer has given the US one year, the UN is supposed to have a deadline of June 2010 for public disclosure. I guess we shall all see before a year has passed.

Personally, I'm hopeing for disclosure as soon as possible. I don't like living as a human, I wan to be what I am. [some of you may be saying; "Aha agenda", maybe you're right).




[edit on 1-9-2009 by AnthraAndromda]

Originally posted by DOADOA
if you are extra-terrestrial, you would know who i am? you would know who my father is, and you would know why i am allowed here. who am i?

Sorry DOADOA I'm not here to play games, and I doubt the others are either. If you want to contribute something constructive...please do.

Originally posted by Topsy_Cret

I have always wondered if humans are originally form this planet or if we were engineered. Also, What is really on Mars.... i mean is there really a face and pyramids and stuff. If so why are they there. Finally, what were the pyramids on this planet used for, not just the ones in Egypt.... I doubt just for burying old kings.

On a side note I also live in Texas... why did you choose Texas?

[edit on 1-9-2009 by Topsy_Cret]

Sorry I can't answer those questions, I've never been more than 100,000 kilometers from Earth and my people are really interested in such things.

Why did I choose Texas...job opportunity. A company down here wanted to purchase some software I developed and I moved here to provide support.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


I'm not sure if u know them, but the andromedans he is in contact with are named Moraney and Vasais.

If you rlly were in contact with andromedans, wouldnt u know these people/ know that alex collier was making contact with u guys?

All of this is really astounding info, Im so very glad you have chosen to share it with us. Thank you for answering all of our questions thus far.

This is something I have always pondered about, and hopefully you can shed some light on this. Before the current human civilization that you are dealing with now, were there others? What I mean to say is that, did Earth evolve other races before us that have become advanced and taken to the stars? Does this explain things such as Atlantis, Lemuria, Pyramids etc.?

Also, what information do you have about a twin star to our own? You may have read about supposed Nibiru, Nemesis, etc. Is there any merit to this celestial item?

Sorry to overload you with questions, I'm just very curious. It's not very often one gets the opportunity to ask questions like this. Thank you for being patient and answering all of them.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


All very interesting.

You’re not an alien.

You are at worst a follower of Aleister Crowley, at least plagiarizing his work.

Ever heard of Liber AL vel Legis? Allow me:

Liber AL vel Legis is the central sacred text of Thelema, written by Aleister Crowley in Cairo, Egypt in the year 1904... Liber AL vel Legis contains three chapters, each of which was written down in one hour, beginning at noon, on April 8, April 9, and April 10.[2] Crowley claims that the author was an entity named Aiwass, whom he later referred to as his personal Holy Guardian Angel (or "Higher Self"). Biographer Lawrence Sutin quotes private diaries that fit this story, and writes that "if ever Crowley uttered the truth of his relation to the Book," his public account accurately describes what he remembered on this point

en.wikipedia.org...

Then, if we delve into The Book further, we come across several telling references.

From your posts:

Anthra-Andromda

To maintain strict acuracy. This child is identified by the number preceeding the word 'abk', this number is 4638, and identifies the child in this caseas Anthra-Andromda. This will be dealt with in full later.

Who he is ties in very closely with Liber AL vel Legis, and Crowley's word for the new aeon 'ABRAHADABRA'. This 'Child' Anthra-Andromda is the child of prophecy, who cometh from 'no expected house'.

D’arna-Shat

D'arna-Shat, the Mother of Anthra-Andromda and both extraterristrial.

1947

In the Earth year 1947, during the month of the ram, Aries, and in the decon of the Sun; the child Anthra arrived on this Earth.

All external quotes: www.skepticfiles.org...

Combining Crowley and current UFO mythology was clever, I give you that. Great background story and decent sounding names.

In a reply to Ghostt, wherein he had pointed out holes in your story, you said:

You tell me where the holes are, even your imagined ones.

Well, can we call these little findings chasms?

And where WalterRatlos questioned the spelling of your name, you said:

Actually the Greeks named a princess Andromeda in the myth, later a constellation was names for her and still later a galaxy was named for the constellation where it was found. It all goes back to the Greeks...

You should read the myth with an open mind...

So you don’t even credit Crowley, therefore proving that you knew where the names come from, but wanted to continue the pretence.

You, sir, are a hoaxer.

reply to post by AnthraAndromda


Hmmmm.... sonds a great Fantasy/Fictional Novel or some kind of opening sequence to an online space game!!!

I really don't think you have all these facts and that most of it if not all of it is just made up as said as pure Fantasy!

Do you think that we humans who do all the work wouldn't get to hear of this?

The presence of Andromedan people (Andromeda Galaxy) near Earth is currently limited to one faction; a group called Andromds. The Andromds have an active role in the current development of Earth and its people. While the Andromds do not have a voice in the local stellar government, they are here at the mutual request of several governing factions to act as mediators, impartial observers and advisors.

alien.wolfmagick.com.../andromedan_presence.htm

Sound familiar? It should:

The presence of Andromedan people (Andromeda Galaxy) near Earth is currently limited to one faction; a group called Andromds. The Andromds have an active role in the current development of Earth and its people. While the Andromds do not have a voice in the local stellar government, they are here at the mutual request of several governing factions to act as mediators, impartial observers and advisors.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The OP’s initial posts are complete copy and pastes from this site:

alien.wolfmagick.com.../pageHome.htm

Once again passing someone elses work off as his own...