Between the LIES 2009!

Between the LIES 2009

Composed almost entirely of news broadcasts from 9/11, 9/12 and 9/13, the film shows the media lies that stuck with the public and more importantly, the truths that were quickly forgotten.
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The head of the NIST spoke person and engineer says there was no explosions at the WTC.
Who do you think is lying NIST or all the eyewitness?

You decide!

If I could post some of those clips in every one of my posts, I would.

If nothing else, seeing those things actually come down, especially from below looking up, there is no question what is happening to those buildings.





A few interesting things I noticed in the first part:

There is a woman who testifies (yet another person) to the WTC1 lobby being destroyed before and independently of the first plane impact.

There were a great number of people describing the collapses as explosions, even saying they were convinced the collapses were large bombs going off.

A CNBC reporter still covered in soot at 12:30 describes the sound of a collapse directly above him as being characteristic of the sound of an "implosion."

At least two people compare the sounds of collapse to gunshots, one of them describing "bang bang bang bang bang" followed by 3 "tremendous explosions" from his hospital bed. Another person says he heard about 50 consecutive "bangs" around 13:00.


These were all in the mainstream news on or immediately after 9/11. It was only afterward that these particular testimonies were down-played, ignored, even ridiculed and denied later. They have been here since day 1.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by bsbray11]

Just got done watching. Excellent video. There is some great information that will help in the production of my upcoming video.

So this movie was made by someone that is in intelligence? That's very interesting. Great video either way, thanks for posting.

Excellent post, full of pancake collapse theories

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Ohh, how long until video?

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I'd say it will be a couple/few months yet. It's taking longer than I anticipated. But it will be solely based on the WTC and it's destruction.

posted by impressme
Between the LIES 2009

Composed almost entirely of news broadcasts from 9/11, 9/12 and 9/13, the film shows the media lies that stuck with the public and more importantly, the truths that were quickly forgotten.
*********************************************************
Watch the top video before posting.

www.archive.org...


The head of the NIST spoke person and engineer says there was no explosions at the WTC.
Who do you think is lying NIST or all the eyewitness?

You decide!

The 9-11 Perps removed the 1st day truth from the TV networks in a hurry didn't they?

No wonder the duhbunkers and pseudoskeptics and government loyalists and shills are so desperate to prevent a real investigation.

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Just out of curiosity, say the government awarded you a budget and subpeona power to conduct an investigation. What would be your first order of business and/or first avenue of investigation?

posted by hooper
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Just out of curiosity, say the government awarded you a budget and subpeona power to conduct an investigation. What would be your first order of business and/or first avenue of investigation?

Video interview every single one of the 503 WTC 1st responders under oath whom the 9-11 Whitewash Commission refused to interview, because most of them testified of explosions and demolition, AND review all of their 19,000 pages of 1st responder testimonies, AND present all of this evidence to the American people by buying prime time hours every day for months and months until the American people fully understood who had betrayed them.

The Mainstream News Media won't do it on their own will they? They won't even report that multiple independent from each other scientific groups are claiming that micro-particle nano-thermite, which cannot possibly form naturally without exotic technology, has been found in the WTC dust, will they? That should be big big headline news, but the MSM ignores it.

These WTC 1st responders were fully willing to testify publicly under oath with their names and faces freely given, and the 9-11 Whitewash Commission ignored them.

It seems most alleged witnesses supporting the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY have gone into hiding and are nowhere to be found, and don't seem to want their names and faces made public, if they even exist as real people.

Some fools even claim there are thousands of official story supporting witnesses, but are unwilling to list them by name and face. The MSM is on vacation and is not the least bit interested in searching out eyewitnesses from either side. Why do we need journalists who only present what the government feeds them?

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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

And what do you do with the testimony of first responders that heard explosions long before the towers collapsed? The lag time between hearing explosions in CD and bricks falling is measured in seconds and fractions of a second. You would need to attribute those explosive sounds to other than CD.

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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

And what do you do with the testimony of first responders that heard explosions long before the towers collapsed? The lag time between hearing explosions in CD and bricks falling is measured in seconds and fractions of a second. You would need to attribute those explosive sounds to other than CD.

Not necessarily. The early explosions were likely used to weaken the structures prior to the final demolition.

posted by hooper
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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

Of course not. I already know what most of the 503 1st responder testimonies claim. My objective would be for the American people to see and hear their testimonies.

Most people do not have their eyes and ears glued shut like you do.

Originally posted by SPreston

posted by hooper
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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

Of course not. I already know what most of the 503 1st responder testimonies claim. My objective would be for the American people to see and hear their testimonies.

Most people do not have their eyes and ears glued shut like you do.

As part of an investigation would you be willing to share the podium with others? Like at a congressional or senatorial hearing where all parties are represented and allowed to question the witnesses?

Originally posted by impressme
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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

And what do you do with the testimony of first responders that heard explosions long before the towers collapsed? The lag time between hearing explosions in CD and bricks falling is measured in seconds and fractions of a second. You would need to attribute those explosive sounds to other than CD.

Not necessarily. The early explosions were likely used to weaken the structures prior to the final demolition.

Weaken the structure? Pre-demoltition? For what purpose? Have you ever heard of anything like that in any kind of CD?

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by impressme
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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

And what do you do with the testimony of first responders that heard explosions long before the towers collapsed? The lag time between hearing explosions in CD and bricks falling is measured in seconds and fractions of a second. You would need to attribute those explosive sounds to other than CD.

Not necessarily. The early explosions were likely used to weaken the structures prior to the final demolition.

Weaken the structure? Pre-demoltition? For what purpose? Have you ever heard of anything like that in any kind of CD?

This is a no brainer.
The one tower was bombed internally back in the 80's.
So if you are found out like the FBI was in that false flag,where they blamed it on Arabs. You could do it again since you got away with it before.
That is if you need to because you are now (the goment) caught in a bigger OS lie.

Originally posted by Donny 4 million

Originally posted by hooper

Originally posted by impressme
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And if the "under oath" testimonies don't yield the result you think it will, would you be willing to go on prime time TV and attest to the official story?

And what do you do with the testimony of first responders that heard explosions long before the towers collapsed? The lag time between hearing explosions in CD and bricks falling is measured in seconds and fractions of a second. You would need to attribute those explosive sounds to other than CD.

Not necessarily. The early explosions were likely used to weaken the structures prior to the final demolition.

Weaken the structure? Pre-demoltition? For what purpose? Have you ever heard of anything like that in any kind of CD?

This is a no brainer.
The one tower was bombed internally back in the 80's.
So if you are found out like the FBI was in that false flag,where they blamed it on Arabs. You could do it again since you got away with it before.
That is if you need to because you are now (the goment) caught in a bigger OS lie.

Huh? The FBI blamed Arabs back in the 80's for bombing the WTC? You may be right, but I don't recall any terrorist bombing in the 80's at the WTC. Are you thinking of 1993?

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Glad to see you are reading the post. The 8 is right next the 9 on my keyboard.Same story what's a decade or so?
thanks for pointing that out.
Just to make sure I'll post some info---part one


COMMENTARY
Why the FBI got away with the first WTC bombing
By Jerry Mazza
Online Journal Associate Editor
Feb 28, 2007, 00:43
On February 26, 1993, a gray snowy day in Manhattan like the one I write on 14 years later, the FBI and US
government failed to stop the van-bomb explosion in the World Trade Center’s basement garage, just as NORAD
and the US government failed to stop the airliner blitz on the Twin Towers and Pentagon on September 11, 2001.
I remember crowds fleeing from the Towers in ’93, choking with smoke, exhaustion, and disbelief. But as James
Bovard points out in FBI Blunders and the First World Trade Center Bombing, events that led to that infamy
started years earlier.
On November 5, 1990, Rabbi Meir Kahane was giving a predictably anti-Arab speech at a New York hotel. Kahane
had founded the radical Jewish Defense League (JDL), which passionately preached expelling all Arabs from Israel
and the “occupied territories” by force. The Knesset, Israel’s Parliament, actually banned Kahane’s political party
for “inciting racism” and “endangering security,” which indeed it was doing.
To make matters worse, as Kahane finished his speech on that night, El Sayyid Nosair, a 36-year old Egyptiam
immigrant, walked up to Kahane, pulled out a .357 and shot him to death in the neck. Nosair belonged to a group
of Muslims that avowedly hated Israel and the Egyptian government of Hosni Mubarak. When police searched
Nosair’s residence, they walked off with 47 boxes of documents such as paramilitary manuals, maps, diagrams of
buildings (including the World Trade Center).
Yet as the September 2002 congressional Report on Federal Failures Before 9/11 stated, “The NYPD and the
District Attorney’s office resisted attempts to label the Kahane assassination a ‘conspiracy’ despite the apparent
links to a broader network of radicals. Instead, these organizations reportedly wanted the appearance of speedy
justice and a quick resolution to a volatile situation. By arresting Nosair, they felt they had accomplished both.”
Thus, the “lone gunman” trial of Nosair, starting in late 1991, brought crowds of angry Muslim supporters outside
the courthouse, death threats agains the judge and lawyers, cries for ‘blood’ revenge against Nosair, and shouts
of ‘Death to Jews!’ A small band of Muslims circled the sidewalks each day in front of the courthouse, trashing
Israel, the US, supposed persecution of Nosair. As observed in a July 4, 1993, Los Angeles Times article, N.Y. Trial
in Rabbi’s Death Planted an Explosive Seed, “Out of those loud demonstrations of contempt for the US judicial
system would emerge what authorities now say was a clandestine cell of ‘“terrorists” [quotation marks mine] who
conspired to set off the World Trade Center bomb blast, plotted an unparalleled wave of attacks on US landmarks
and political figures and shattered America’s image of invulnerability to terrorism.” That is, with a little help from
their friends.
Enter FBI informant Emad Salem
The FBI put an informant named Emad Salem, a 43-year old former Egyptian military officer, smack dab in the
middle of the Muslim protestors. Salem worked the group and became bodyguard for the blind Sheik Abdul
Rahman, radical Muslim cleric and group leader. The sheik, coincidentally, had been heavily subsidized by the U S
government while in Pakistan in the late 1980s, helping to pump up Muslims to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan,
sort of a sheik for all seasons and reasons.

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Though the evidence that Nosair killed Kahane was damning, the jury somehow found him not guilty for murder
but guilty on a firearms charge, i.e., possessing the murder weapon. Work on that one. And Salem, after the trial,
continued to work the “terrorist” room as an FBI informant, receiving $500 a week plus expenses.
Right after Nosair was convicted, Salem met regularly with other members of the “cell,” “cadre,” “conspiracy” --
hard-line Muslims who banded together during the Kahane trial. As a result, in 1992, Salem warned the FBI
repeatedly that the group was planning to pull off a catastrophic bombing in New York City. But the FBI, in its own
strange wisdom, was convinced Nosair was making up tall tales and canned him. Work on that one.
Presenting the first World Trade Center bombing
When on February 26, 1993, a 1,200-pound bomb in a van exploded in the parking garage under the World Trade
Center, purportedly in a government agency parking spot; it was the most destructive terrorist attack on US soil
to that time. Its achievement is now supplanted by the 9/11/01 attack. What’s next, a whole city, a region, a blue
state?
That dark question aside, the ’93 attack killed six people, injured more than a thousand, and racked up a half
billion dollars in damage. It is said that if the van had been parked a few feet closer to one of the pillars, it could
have collapsed at least one of the towers onto the other, thereby collapsing both and killing tens of thousands.
But note how the event is clearly an underground explosion. Explosions from under, within, and on top of the
Towers that led to their pulverization would be disguised in the 2001 hits as effects of the plane hits and
subsequent fires that melted building frames and caused their nine to 10-second, speed-of-gravity free falls. See
911Mysteries and LooseChange for details on how well those infamous hoaxes have been dispelled.
The ’93 case, like the 2001 case, was quickly cracked. Mohammad Salameh, one of the alleged bombers, had
repeatedly gone to the Ryder rental office in Jersey City and demanded that Ryder refund his $400 deposit for the
van, which he claimed to be stolen. Why didn’t he just confess and ask to be arrested? You remember Mohammed
Atta conveniently left a suitcase, in a Maine airport, full of documents in Arabic, maps, plans to destroy buildings,
along with wills of fellow conspirators. Also, Atta’s passport miraculously surfaced from the smoldering debris at
Ground Zero, shouting look at me, look at me.
Of course back in ’93, ‘law enforcement’ agents had already figured out from fragments at the WTC that the van
was the bomb delivery vehicle. Salameh was shuffled off to jail and the FBI quickly snared other plotters.
Similarly, the FBI identified almost immediately after the 9/11 hits the 19 Muslim perpertrators and declared that
planes were the sole instruments of death. In the first case, Time magazine in all its wisdom, announced that the
FBI “looked supremely capable in speedily rounding up suspects in the World Trade Center bombing.” Hurrah, and
let’s get back to those basketball and football games.
Assistant US Attorney Andrew McCarthy boasted to a New York jury that the first World Trade Center attack was
one of the FBI’s finest hours: “To the rest of the world out there, [the] explosion in all its tragedy was actually a
high-water mark for the FBI.” And the New York Times told us that FBI agents had been monitoring two mosques
in the New York City area, as well as Sheik Omar Abdul Rahman, although . . .”Federal guidelines had limited
their ability to tail them or conduct other close surveillance. Nothing suggesting the purchase of explosives or the
assembling of a bomb was detected, the officials said. Even close surveillance might not have picked up a
surreptitious act, they said.”
A few months later, FBI director William Sessions said, “Based on what was known to us at the time, we have no
reason to believe we could have prevented the bombing of the World Trade Center.” Are these guys kidding or
they kidding? They had Emad Salem on the inside in 1992, a year before, warning them a catastrophe was
cooking, and they canned him.
The secret tape recordings
After the bombing, the FBI further played Keystone Cops and stumbled over themselves to rehire Salem, offering
him a million bucks to discover evidence of more terrorist plots. Salem, being a reasonably smart guy, did not
trust the boyz to pay up. So he secretly recorded his conversations with FBI agents. In August, as the case
approached its trial, news leaked Salem had made tapes of more than a hundred hours of his conversations with
FBI agents and handlers. Yet somehow the transcripts were not helpful to the prosecution.
In a call to an FBI agent shortly after the bombing Salem complained, “We was start already building the bomb,
which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built, uh, uh, uh, supervising, supervision from the Bureau
[FBI] and the DA [district attorney] and we was all informed about it. And we know that the bomb start to be
built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case. And then he ‘the FBI [supervisor]’ put
his head in the sand and said, o no, no, no that’s not true, he is a son of a bitch, okay.”
Not elegant rhetoric, but we get the point. The FBI is playing Salem and he is fully aware of it.
Frustrated, Salem told one FBI agent, “You were informed. Everything is ready. The day and the time. Book. Lock
them up and that’s that. That’s why I feel so bad.” Another tape revealed Salem asking an FBI agent, “Do you
deny your supervisor is the main reason of bombing the World Trade Center?” The agent did not deny Salem’s
charge. Shortly after the bombing, FBI agent Nancy Floyd confided to Salem that her supervisions botched the
case: “I felt that the people on the squad, that they didn’t have a clue of how to operate things. That the
supervisors didn’t know what was going on. That they hadn’t taken the time to learn the history.”
Purportedly, it was never totally clear to what degree Salem instigated the bombing, in contrast to just reporting
on the plot to his FBI controllers. Yet, as James Bovard reports, Salem offered to do a switcheroo on the bombers
and substitute harmless powder for deadly explosives and prevent any real catastrophe. The FBI turned down his
offer. Why? Salem wasn’t committed to explosives. Why were they?
Salem groused to one FBI man that an FBI supervisor “requested to make me to testify [in public] and if he didn’t
push for that, we’ll be going building the bomb with a phony powder and grabbing the people who was involve in
it. But . . . we didn’t do that.”
That’s right, the real explosives were used and the reason lands square in the FBI’s lap.
The FBI was also embarrassed by the 47 boxes of explosive plans and information that had been seized from
Nosair and left sitting in storage for two years. In fact, the FBI claimed that part of the reason for that was that
no one in the New York FBI office spoke or read Arabic. Like no one, not even a UN interpreter who could be
borrowed, or a scholar from one of the many universities in town?
One note on one of the boxes read, “We had to thoroughly demoralize the enemies of God. This is to be done by
means of destroying and blowing up the towers that constitute the pillars of their civilization, such as the tourist
attractions they’re so proud of and the high buildings they’re so proud of.” In fact, a law enforcement official told
the Los Angeles Times in 1993 that the materials “described major conspiracies and provided a road map to the
bombing of the World Trade Center and the subsequent plot.” All that rhetoric and no response? FBI, shame on
you again.
Bottom line: more praise than heads rollin

[edit on 4-9-2009 by Donny 4 million]

Since there is a long weekend and the gov. shills are probably soaking there fingers in a piece of humble pie. I would like to thank all that have been working so hard bringing the unknown 911 information to light.
It's a hard fight when the cards are stacked against the facts in these tragedies. Alas I see a solid increase in those fighters.
Enjoy the weekend and watch your back.