Big Bang Redux

Ok just to throw a wrench in the works about what was before our universe.

According to some proposals, the Big Bang is a repeating cycle. Universes might expand, then shrink back to a point, then expand again. Thus the “bang” would be really more like a bounce.

They found that before the Big Bang, there was a contracting universe. Other than the fact that it was shrinking, they added, it was similar to ours in terms of the geometry of its space and time, or spacetime, as cosmologists call it since Einstein found the two are interwoven.

“In place of a classical Big Bang there is in fact a quantum bounce,” said Ashtekar. “We were so surprised by the finding,” he added, that the team repeated the calculations for months to include different different possible values of some numbers representing the current universe. But the results kept pointing to a bounce.

The source

Fascinating stuff indeed

The only "evidence" for the big bang is the red-shift of light that is reaching us from far away objects in space. There is no other evidence for it whatsoever. Please correct me if I am wrong.

And being able to determine velocity from red-shift is flawed in my opinion. How is the wave-form of light affected after traveling for millions and billions of years through an unknown medium that supposedly is full of constant quantum foam fluctuations, space dust, and some type of mysterious invisible dark matter? What happens when light (what the hell is light anyways?) doesn't have to pass through any of that stuff and just travels for billions of years? We don't know - nobody did any tests on the subject, because how can they?

The universe has always been here and will always be here and space is not expanding. The big bang is just god-fearing folk trying to draw a line between science and theology and is shoved down everybody's throats as undeniable fact.

[edit on 1-9-2009 by polit]

reply to post by amazing


This event can be summarized simply. The universe came into being is when nothing became self aware. Basically a area full of nothing but space became aware of itself and thus began to fragment into the known universe. The universe is a fragmented expression of the source. It is thought thinking and interacting within itself upon itself. The universe is a living spirit. Now underpinning that is all the supporting information given by the other post, which in essence is math.