WHO warns of severe form of swine flu

reply to post by SpiritoftheNightSky


Sadly that is where you are wrong though.

Here it is straight from the CDC.

www.cdc.gov...

Strange though. Didn't they say no more updates back in July?


www.pandemicflu.gov...

www.foxnews.com...



The fact is that there ARE numbers being reported, and these are just the ones that the CDC is releasing.


What I see happening is this.

The Southern Hemisphere Flu Season was a test run. The flu season we are about to experience comes right after this "newest mutation" (aka lab created virus) which targets so many more people and new demographics.

To the debunkers:

I may have my tin foil hat on too snug but what I am seeing right now does not add up to be run of the mill virus mutating on its own.


-Sliadon

[edit on 8/30/2009 by Sliadon]

Originally posted by Sliadon
reply to post by SpiritoftheNightSky

 

Sadly that is where you are wrong though.

Here it is straight from the CDC.

www.cdc.gov...

Strange though. Didn't they say no more updates back in July?


www.pandemicflu.gov...

www.foxnews.com...



The fact is that there ARE numbers being reported, and these are just the ones that the CDC is releasing.


What I see happening is this.

The Southern Hemisphere Flu Season was a test run. The flu season we are about to experience comes right after this "newest mutation" (aka lab created virus) which targets so many more people and new demographics.

To the debunkers:

I may have my tin foil hat on too snug

but what I am seeing right now does not add up to be run of the mill virus mutating on its own.


-Sliadon

[edit on 8/30/2009 by Sliadon]

At 44,000 cases and 5100 hospitalized that would be a little less than 12% nationwide. With 302 deaths that would be less than 1% nationwide.

In comparison to a lot of other conditions it seems that the odds just aren’t there yet to force people to take injections that some lab has thrown together overnight.

I still have no faith in an industry that can’t find a cure for a virus that they have been researching for centuries yet they expect me to believe they can come up with a cure for one that is just a few years old or less.

I would consider the development in the interspecies transfer of H1N1 virus to now include, humans to poultry quite disturbing. As that opens the door to the possibility that the H1 strain may combine with the H5 strain to produce a highly infectious and highly lethal mutation.

H1N1 transmited to poultry

now following the supposition that this has anything to do with a NWO plot, this would be the lethal combination to create a population reducing pandemic.

However on a cautionary note, the give away will be if this H1 & H5 combination occurs and surprise surprise the vaccine currently being worked on manages to block both, but by then it will be to late.

reply to post by thoughtsfull


I would be careful if I was a Canadian. The Canadian health care system was very efficient in spreading SARS a few years back.

reply to post by VinceP1974


Lol, Sorry, I'm British, but can't seem to find the articles that I read in the UK mass hysterical media ;-)

Being Process orientated (I work in IT modeling and business analytics's) I'm concerned about this flavour of flu, as it seems too coincidental to the current world climate to be totaly natural (my tin foil hat feeling)

So I've been looking for the clues that follow the path I suspect this would take if my worst fears were realised, first resistance to current medicines as in the tamiflu resistant mutations (I thought this would occur on the second wave, not the first wave) then the interspecies link that demonstrates 2 way transmission, which we've had with pigs and now poultry. Which opens the door to H1 combining with H5.. to be honest I thought that would happen late on the 2nd wave after a couple more mutations)

Ask yourself how frequently does a virus cross the interspecies divide, you get animal to animal, human to human, occationaly you get animal to human or human to animal..

So my question is how frequently do you also get a bi-directional virus crossing from human to animal and animal to human...

Finally how frequently does that then entail crossing multiple species all both directions.

Currently a pig with flu can infect a human that then can infect poultry that can infect a human that can infect a pig.. the combinations of infections/mutations in this case could be astronomical and for me is equally worrying.

This is actually mutating, and crossing the interspecies divide at an incredible speed. An incredible speed that does not match the number of infections, which are still quite low even compared to the usual seasonal flu.

My understanding is that flu mutates when it hits a road block, yet this variety seems to be mutating and crossing interspecies divides without hitting those roadblocks. The speed of mutations is the bit I am most puzzled about.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by thoughtsfull]

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
reply to post by VinceP1974

 

Lol, Sorry, I'm British, but can't seem to find the articles that I read in the UK mass hysterical media ;-)

Being Process orientated (I work in IT modeling and business analytics's) I'm concerned about this flavour of flu, as it seems too coincidental to the current world climate to be totaly natural (my tin foil hat feeling)

So I've been looking for the clues that follow the path I suspect this would take if my worst fears were realised, first resistance to current medicines as in the tamiflu resistant mutations (I thought this would occur on the second wave, not the first wave) then the interspecies link that demonstrates 2 way transmission, which we've had with pigs and now poultry. Which opens the door to H1 combining with H5.. to be honest I thought that would happen late on the 2nd wave after a couple more mutations)

Ask yourself how frequently does a virus cross the interspecies divide, you get animal to animal, human to human, occationaly you get animal to human or human to animal..

So my question is how frequently do you also get a bi-directional virus crossing from human to animal and animal to human...

Finally how frequently does that then entail crossing multiple species all both directions.

Currently a pig with flu can infect a human that then can infect poultry that can infect a human that can infect a pig.. the combinations of infections/mutations in this case could be astronomical and for me is equally worrying.

This is actually mutating, and crossing the interspecies divide at an incredible speed. An incredible speed that does not match the number of infections, which are still quite low even compared to the usual seasonal flu.

My understanding is that flu mutates when it hits a road block, yet this variety seems to be mutating and crossing interspecies divides without hitting those roadblocks. The speed of mutations is the bit I am most puzzled about.

[edit on 30-8-2009 by thoughtsfull]

Puzzled?

It is amazing what a little engineering can do?

You see how profitable designer jeans have become? My faux pas; I meant genes.

reply to post by SpiritoftheNightSky


The scary thing is states like Massachusetts that already are trying to force people to take the vaccine.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


This Swine Flu is classic example of when people talk about Designer Viruses. I agree with you on not trusting the vaccine. Who knows what little nasties they are throwing in with it. Plus the fact that you have no legal action should something go wrong. Darn immunity to prosecution....


-Sliadon