WHO warns of severe form of swine flu

reply to post by operation mindcrime


I can't answer your ending question about Germany having less deaths than the UK with a higher incidence rate.

As far as China, one thing everyone must realize is how sensitive the Chinese Government is to admitting deaths from well, just about anything. They keep infection deaths especially under wraps.

Now, that is not to suggest that they have in fact had deaths but is merely to warrant the notion that a death would not be as likely to be reported.


I wonder if I may rack your brain?

By any chance do you have knowledge of any profound differences between the UK and Germany? I know you end your post flabbergasted at the difference between the two. But looking at this situation even from a non-conspiracy side, perhaps it may lie in certain vaccinations UK citizens take vs German citizens that makes people from the UK more susceptible to death from the particular flu strain? That is going out on a limb for me because first of all I don't know what differences (if any) are present and it doesn't fit what I think to be going on here.




On a closing note, I am curious to see a bit on a contradiction one of your points. Israel ranks number 42 on the list with a positive account balance of $1.893.000.000.

They are also a "fear mongering" nation as you labeled the others who has purchased vaccinations for the entirety of its population. I covered this in a previous thread of mine.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Regardless, the rest of your data seems to follow a logical pattern and I will not fight you on that. Any light you could perhaps shed me on the earlier stuff with Germany immunizations differing would be appreciated.

Thanks for your side of the coin


-Sliadon

Thanks for the reply Sliadon,

I'm in no way educated in these matters and am merly making weird connections because i find it intriguing how certain countries are raising all kinds of h*ll over this through their government and media while others are laying back and are not reporting anything aka not scaring the living daylight out it's inhabitants..

Originally posted by Sliadon
As far as China, one thing everyone must realize is how sensitive the Chinese Government is to admitting deaths from well, just about anything. They keep infection deaths especially under wraps.

I can understand they would do this. But if you were gonna prepare your entire population for a mandatory vacination i would think that pointing out the "danger" would not be a bad thing...

I wonder if I may rack your brain?

By all means, please do!!

By any chance do you have knowledge of any profound differences between the UK and Germany? I know you end your post flabbergasted at the difference between the two. But looking at this situation even from a non-conspiracy side, perhaps it may lie in certain vaccinations UK citizens take vs German citizens that makes people from the UK more susceptible to death from the particular flu strain? That is going out on a limb for me because first of all I don't know what differences (if any) are present and it doesn't fit what I think to be going on here.

I would have to look up details about every mandatory vaccination program for both countries which ran the last 30/40 years but i would guess that both these countries falling under EU legislation regarding food and medicine will not differ that much....

On a closing note, I am curious to see a bit on a contradiction one of your points. Israel ranks number 42 on the list with a positive account balance of $1.893.000.000.

They are also a "fear mongering" nation as you labeled the others who has purchased vaccinations for the entirety of its population.

Now don't get me wrong here. Purchasing the vaccine does not equal fear mongering. I'm talking about the way media and government are bringing this to it's citizens attention. Wether or not the numbers are fixed some countries are trying to convince it's population the vaccination is inevitable and maybe even mandatory because of the "high risk".

My country (Holland) bought 32 million vaccinations, enough to do the entire population two times over, but are reporting nothing on the whole swine flu issue and mass vaccination is certainly not being discussed right now. I also live in Germany and it's the same here...no word on the flu or vaccination.

Any light you could perhaps shed me on the earlier stuff with Germany immunizations differing would be appreciated.

Will try.....

Peace

What have been the death figures of those countries who have just had their flu season like Australia and other southern hemisphere nations? Surely we would expect a large number of infections from these areas and hence more deaths?

On a side note, i don't believe Germany and China are "under-reporting" their fatality cases. I think it's more the case that the United Kingdom is "over-reporting" it's fatalities to push an agenda..
(Just as certain other countries are doing....)

They are planning something and they want to make sure everybody knows how "dangerous" this virus really is

The $64.000 question here is : Why???

What's the connection between countries planning a mass vaccination program, the death toll they report and their position in the world regarding economics, ecology, health etc etc.....

I mearly compared countries account balance because it struck me as coincidental that those countries hyping this up are also the countries way down on the list but it could be other factors which connect them....

Wish i could figure it out.....

Peace

Historically and economically, all nations would benefit from a successful vaccine program for the swine flu, new vaccines are developed each year, this new vaccine for swine flu is not so unusual in it's developement time, most only take around 4 to 6 months to make, because flu is constantly changing the need to constantly change the vaccine makes it necessary to be able to produce new vaccines at that rate.

reply to post by Sliadon


Um, of course "minorities" (whatever that actually means) are at risk... where have the most deaths occurred from swine flu? .. Mexico. Not because of genetics, simply because "minorities" often live in poor countries with no health care.. Like Mexico.

(When speaking on a global scale, white people are the minority, Asians are the majority, so I don't understand why the WHO is calling "people of color" minorities....)

reply to post by space cadet


I would contend that allowing epidemics to go unimpeded would actually benefit all nations.. illness is a natural way for the planet to stabilize the population of certain species, in this case, humans. While we already import foods to the "third world" to support populations that are far beyond the lands ability to maintain, vaccination against communicable diseases will only further deteriorate the living standards of people in these countries. Quite frankly, the smaller their populations, the better their average lives would be, as it is we support over expansion of these populations through "humanitarian" means and end up creating a worse situation than was there to begin with. Instead of a thousand hungry people living in poverty there will be a million. (as an example)

Same thing goes for the Western world.. blocking diseases as a natural way to control population only causes further problems for the planet and the Governments who have to sustain them.

I am personally a believer in allowing the planet to purge us in any way she deems necessary.

reply to post by Sliadon


Are you sure?

So you are saying that Swine Flu has been manufactured to elliminate all races except the white people or most of the white people?

Don't be daft........ i don't believe this article at all and i think some of you are reading way too much into this and getting yourself more and more paranoid!!!!!

Jeeeez..... i'm not saying it wasn't manufactured (that is quite a possibility) but to say it was manufactured to completely wipe out non-whites is ridiculous....... i'm in the UK and the people dying from it are from all different backgrounds!!!! Of course the rates will be much higher where there are people of non-white background........ In India it's going to be Indian people, in China it's going to be chinese etc etc..... In country's where you have more of a population of course you are going to have more deaths.... it stands to reason

YOU MUST TAKE THE VACCINE!!!!!!

Please , for the sake of your family and especially for the sake of OUR PROFITS, you must take the pois....the vaccines. They will help when the more dangerous form of the Swine Flu has been releas.... when the swine flu mutates into a more dangerous form.

More propaganda to weaken the masses moral into taking the poisoned vaccines.

I think the most probable non-conspiracy is that the "agenda" if you will of this Swine Flu and the vaccine that entails is a global bail-out. It could just be random dumb luck, but it happens to fall right at the same time as a major economic fallout that every nation is currently feeling.

As far as the condemning comments that I am nothing more than a 'fear-mongerer' please know that all I am doing is taking the information at hand and trying to piece it together in a way that seems like it could be a feasible answer. A dissenting answer is one thing but a personal attack is unneeded.

Is assuming that a NWO exists and that they are trying to wipe a people out that much more ludicrous than a giant planet/Sun is going to crash into us in 2012, or that elite people on that planet are actual alien shape-shifters, or that crop circles hold some secret hidden meaning that aliens want us to discover?

No.

We are all here to discover something and try to learn about what piques our interest. It's a conspiracy forum guys of course everything will sound a little bit silly if you look at it from the opposing point of view.

I don't want to assume that a government would turn on its people and kill them. But history repeats itself and all we have is our books and our brains to try to establish an explanation for it. I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm hoping that next spring this will all blow over and someone will be in a thread and say "Remember when Sliadon was running around like Chicken Little about the sky falling with Swine Flu???" And everyone will have a good laugh at it.

I'm no prophet, I don't know anything 100%, just sharing my opinion. To those who have debated me on my positions logically are cordially I thank you.


-Sliadon

reply to post by Sliadon


Hey Siladon,

Don't know if this has been posted before but it's the only reason i could "find" for the difference in deaths between U.K. and Germany...

Furthermore, there has been no mention by Government health people or the media of the rumour that Russian scientists have identified a dangerous trait linking the H1N1 virus and a specific genetic modification in a specific potato spread around UK, US, Chilean and OZ fast food outlets, at least, which if true must be known to those linked to the WHO therefore its swine flu

I would buy it!! Death by fastfood.....the ultimate joke!!!

Well i guess i'm off to find some more proof for this ridiculous but possible theory of H1N1 infected potatoes for western fastfood....

Peace

reply to post by VinceP1974


555 Americans have already died from H1N1 and there hasn't been much attention from the news. Close to 3000 have died worldwide.

I'm not expecting the Black Plague this winter, but its going to be an interesting one. Unlike previous flu seasons that kill around 36,000 Americans, who are mostly older people and children, this flu season will get thousands of extra deaths of healthy middle aged people.

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
Well i guess i'm off to find some more proof for this ridiculous but possible theory of H1N1 infected potatoes for western fastfood....

Peace

I'll lend you a hand friend...

Russian Scientists Warn Of Genetically Modified Fast Food Link To Pandemic Flu

Sorcha Faal was all over this a month or two ago, with their 'creative' investigatory skillz...

reply to post by Paroxysm


Thanks for that Paroxysm

As always you are on top of things i see!! I just saw this in some article and had not heard about it before...

I'm just busy scoping the web for weird connections between countries and their swine flu numbers. If this was thought up by Sorcha Faal (Sorta Fail) then no need to investigate any further. Guess i'll be busy now finding new facts.

Star for your speedy reply.....

Peace

[edit on 30/8/2009 by operation mindcrime]

reply to post by VinceP1974


love the video, i wonder how much playing they are doing.

I dont know if the Government created the virus or nature did, but i knew it was coming. We are destroying our planet... some say we arent, but i live in the country and the quality of life has changed, our well is getting polluted we have recently had to add a series of filters just to make it drinkable but now we drink out of bought water.

America was the Industrial capital of the world for a while, and thats when "CO2" Emissions were said to rise but we are also one of the agricultural centers of the world. Seeing ferilizer charts (how far it travels under ground) is a big shocker too... just because its good for plants doesn't mean they use it all or that its good for humans. Just look at the effect of fertilizers on the REEFS.

anyways back to point. The Swine Flu was bound to happen. So just eat healthy and live healthy, and exercise (cardio) and you will be fine.

reply to post by Sliadon


You can't do the math if you don't have the numbers.

15% of zero is zero.

How can they say 15% of the cases if they are not telling us the number of cases?

Makes you think you are being pranked.

Originally posted by operation mindcrime
reply to post by Paroxysm

 

Thanks for that Paroxysm

As always you are on top of things i see!! I just saw this in some article and had not heard about it before...

I'm just busy scoping the web for weird connections between countries and their swine flu numbers. If this was thought up by Sorcha Faal (Sorta Fail) then no need to investigate any further. Guess i'll be busy now finding new facts.

Star for your speedy reply.....

Peace

[edit on 30/8/2009 by operation mindcrime]

Sorry.
Edited for posting to wrong post.


[edit on 30-8-2009 by SpiritoftheNightSky]

reply to post by Sliadon


I agree with you...I suspect the need for this healthcare bill to be passed aka slammed through immediately is in conjunction with all this swine flu b.s.

Especially if these vaccines become "mandatory" all over the U.S.

Epidemics like the swine flu just dont pop out of nowhere...They come out of a lab.

reply to post by AceOfAces


Thanks for the support man

It's sad how much this flu season has the potential to help this 1000+ page Health Bill pass through. It will just be another time that our liberties are stripped away from us for the better of blah blah blah...

The fact that Massachusetts is already trying to mandate the vaccine and FEMA and Northcom are teaming up worries me like none other.


-Sliadon