Why Crop Circles???

Originally posted by mpeake
There is absulotely nothing that proves aliens created them.

You're right, there is proof that people have made some and no proof that aliens have made others. It is one of many theories, but it is a compelling one and a plausible one due to the persistence all over the world of the existence and presence of extraterrestrial life.

It is all well and fine to speculate on the intentions of aliens, but first, if we determine that they are of alien origin or at least have some solid evidence of such, we must then realize that alien psychology is very likely to be beyond our comprehension. The why's and wherefore's of creating crop circles will not likely be evident to us for many years to come, centuries perhaps.

Unfortunately, the main reason for this is that we argue and fight rather than work together to understand based upon the facts we have in our possession. This comes from both sides as I have seen here, and this is a microcosm of the world.

It would be wonderful if there could be a joint effort of skeptics and believers to put aside their preconceived notions and their egos and focus on facts and presenting plausible theories and working to eliminate them one by one until an explanation is found that both sides cannot refute and in fact, can joyously embrace because they were there every step of the way.

i dont know why you folx dont check the two video links i posted, please do check them out!


the circles have been dechiphered, they are actually messages for humanity, why no one wants you to know this is another question.

There are pictograms of technology and bleprints on how to create a perpetum mobile based on microwaves,vacum,water and magnetic fields.
The whole idea is really clever, i wish i was more into phisics so i could make me one of these babies.


CHECK THE VIDEOS!

Originally posted by mpeake
Of course, they could mean an infinite number of things. But what we do know is that there is evidence of mand made circles, and no evidence of alien made ones. And don't tell me that some have different radiation levels and that some have different bending points in the actual crops, because that means nothing. There is absulotely nothing that proves aliens created them. But, if you want to go on faith alone, then by all means go ahead! I can't tell you what to beleive. I just don't like it when people say that there is evidence of aliens creating these things when there aren't. I am an opened minded person and am willing to admit that anything is possible, even the existence of aliens. So, when the aliens make thier presence known and tell us that yes, it was them that did these crop circles then I will b ethe first to admit that you all were right and I was wrong.

eh theres plenty of proof, you just fail to see it

Originally posted by mpeake
Of course, they could mean an infinite number of things. But what we do know is that there is evidence of mand made circles, and no evidence of alien made ones. And don't tell me that some have different radiation levels and that some have different bending points in the actual crops, because that means nothing. There is absulotely nothing that proves aliens created them. But, if you want to go on faith alone, then by all means go ahead! I can't tell you what to beleive. I just don't like it when people say that there is evidence of aliens creating these things when there aren't. I am an opened minded person and am willing to admit that anything is possible, even the existence of aliens. So, when the aliens make thier presence known and tell us that yes, it was them that did these crop circles then I will b ethe first to admit that you all were right and I was wrong.

eh theres plenty of proof, you just fail to see it

To my knowledge the circles are the best proof of their existence yet,
they can not be denied, you can debunk all sightings including mine as being halucinations or whatever, but there you have it, a MATERIALISTIC PROOF (it is after all the only thing you understand)....

....and now tell me they dont have a sense of humor


so debunk it all you want but you dont have any proof that theyre all man-made and you will never have it becouse to make something like this takes so much more than a few hoaxers and moneymakers. It would almost have to be a goverment project if its a hoax, but what would be the point of that?

nukunuku,

We will just have to agree to disagree here. Like I said before, I have no problem with you or anyone beleiving whatever they want to beleive. There is something inside of me that would like to think that some of these were made by something other than man. That would be alot more interesting than them all just being a big prank. But, history has shown me that there is no limit to mans imagination and desire to create something artistic, and even illogical (ie. the pyramids, native american rock carvings, myan temples, the puerto rico rock spheres). To make the argument that man had no reason to make all of these crop circles doesn't cut it for me. Man has been doing things like this for thousands of years and we still don't have answers as to why and how. As for myself, I'd like to give man the benefit of the doubt.

i was in a book club and had to purchase a few books to get me out of it - i chose a crop circle book

this book went on about circles being in potatoe fields , circles on thin ice , circles under power lines where they left the stalks untouched directly under the powerlines etc

thing is - it only shows the pics of the potatoe fields - read into this as you will

i think there is something in it - with the exploding stalks and things like that - i dont believe the huge fractal paterns are alien tho

Most crop circles are created by Earth technology which taps into the morphogenetic grid of the Earth. When it does this, it imprints hyperspace archetype patterns in crops if it occurs over them. Does the same thing to wild grass, etc.

But in terms of crops it is partially the result of the Illuminati's extensive attempts to radionically damage the genetic structure of the food we eat. They have also radionically treated the soil so that only GMO foods will grow in certain areas now.

Crop circles are not an alien phenomenon. Very few of them are created by aliens. Almost universally, crop circles are created by Earth-humans.

they might be, but its definately not a rope/board project, from the patterns it is obvious that some sort of energy makes them

as for aliens, so do you think that guy in the video that claims he knows what they mean is selling bs? Are there any physicists here that can confirm that?

and who says its only humans that can tap into the "morphogenetic grid of the Earth"?

[edit on 25-6-2004 by nukunuku]

Perhaps the symbols are not intended to be used as words, but more of a earth acupuncture if you will. I wonder why they appear in the places they do. Many seem to pop up in the UK around sites that have long been held as sacred, associated with fairies and the like. If the artists wanted to communicate with us I believe they would find a better way.

I think it true that some of the circles are man-made, but certainly not the every one of them. Ever since those guys in the UK came out with the 'board and a rope' trick, there seems to be a smokescreen in place dealing with the circles. Every skeptic instantly points to the nerds with their flat boards and ends the discussion. It is opinion that the publicity given to these guys is no mistake.

Another trend I have noticed while looking over the circles is the frequency of the the number six, hexegons and such. It seems to be used again and again. It is interesting to note that recently a huge hexagon was confirmed on Saturn. Possible connection? I don't know. To some races the six sided shape, the hexagram, was a symbol used to display the idea of a union of opposing forces, a grand harmony.

In any case I think it is vital we have open, honest research into the phenomenon. The fact that so little mainstream science turns it concrete gaze towards the subject leads me to believe that someone out there knows something that they don't want being broadcast. Once again, I just don't know.

Originally posted by rynaldo82
Good question about the crop circles.

I've heard that when you stand in some though you get dizzy and feel ill

Rynaldo

I think youll find thats more to do with what people have been smoking or drinking.
There is no empirical evidence of crop circles doing anything to anyone.

ok so i had this idea a far fetched one but nonetheless an idea: what if the aliens are making the crop circles, by this i mean not by any sort of tech. that they knowingly are using to make designs in the field. Rather what if they are just landing. landing? (you ask) yes landing. now again what i mean by this is that they are landing in the fields and whatever the material is on the ship combined with the 'force' of them landing leaves what we know as crop circles but are really just the designs on the bottom (underside) of their ships.

example: a ufo comes along a field and lands, leaving behind an impression of its underside. the next morning people come along and are in awe because they think some advance intelligence just 'made' a crop circle.
now granted the intell. did 'make' the crop circle but perhaps it was
un-intentional.

on another note: since many people when they see the ufo made crop circles think that they are leaving a message, i wonder if the ufo people when seeing a man made crop circle also think that we are leaving a message.

Crop circles aligned with alien visitation ideas is the type of complete and utter bunk that makes people laugh and not take mainstream ufology seriously.

Too many people have admitted to, and been caught making crop circles to bother even giving them thought. To have so many pages of discussion about something that is so far in to the "bunk" zone is embarrassing and it shows how many people want to believe certain things so bad they will ignore the obvious. Earth lights, magnetic fields, ufos, spirit power all making crop circles, lol. Nope, just some hooligans with boards and rope. Fun to imagine, but lets at least try to be realistic, huh?

crop circle 1

crop circle 2

crop circle montage

.... sure looks like a bunch of drunken hooligans had a grand 'ol time that night!

IGTF, I read some of your other posts, you're either a hopeless skeptic or something more sinisterrrrrrrr...........