S4: The Incredible True Story of Bob Lazar - New Movie

reply to post by NightVision

Mint. Be cautious as to what you believe when its 'hearsay'. A C2C episode aired 6/6/02, Bob addresses the incident you state:

Thanks for that very interesting info. It explains a lot of the points I raised. I still have trouble with his story but this is one accusation we can now put to bed and discount.
Thanks again.

reply to post by longfade


Ok, let me revise my question.
Where did you get the information that professed pandering pimp Bob Lazar is working at Los Alamos presently? The last I heard he had some business up North.

Great, informative post concerning Lazar's trumped up, fiasco of pandering charges NightVision! Are you an attorney or county official?

reply to post by EclipseReloaded

I don't believe Lazar's story anymore than you do but it does nobody any good by simply continuing to spread the same old stories especially of they are untrue. The only way we'll ever get to the bottom of Bob Lazar's story, and his motivation for telling it, is if we seperate the wheat from the chaff, the stuff which is plainly lies from the parts of his story which may have an element of truth to them. For instance, lazar is a very intelligent guy so where did he learn all that knowledge? He has to have been schooled somewhere but there's no records of him at any major college or university! Thats a big puzzle.
However, the part of his story I think is plainly lies is when he says he wrote away for a job, got an interview and said he wanted to work out at Area 51. . . Surely they'd have laughed at him? If the courts can't get the government to admit that they have a base out there theres no way they are going to admit across a desk in a informal interview. . . I think the government would approach those who it wanted to work on classified projects, people who were already in the loop and who were totally trustworthy. They wouldn't just invite a virtual stranger onto a top secret base!

Originally posted by Mintwithahole. They wouldn't just invite a virtual stranger onto a top secret base!

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[edit on 28-8-2009 by zorgon]

Awesome post Zorgon

Also, Mintwithoutahole, Lazar developed a contact through famous physicist Edward Teller, "father of the hydrogen bomb," who headed a group at Los Alamos in the Theoretical Physics division, was Director of Livermore Laboratory.

Teller was impressed with the newspaper clipping Lazar showed him of his jetcar at a symposium, enough for him to help Bob get an interview at Area51...so, its details like these that get overlooked/forgotten..he just didn't walk into a job like that without some credentials, from someone of Teller's stature no less!

Edward Teller Wikipedia entry

Yes!!! This is going to open people's minds. People will be asking questions. The government will have some 'splaining to do. Regardless of whether or not the government just puts another blanket on the truth, it will get out there in the spotlight and more people will take interest in aliens and UFOs.

oh hell yes

i wanna apply for a job at area 51

would be so awesome to finally see a computer better than mine

Originally posted by EclipseReloaded
Awesome post Zorgon

Also, Mintwithoutahole, Lazar developed a contact through famous physicist Edward Teller, "father of the hydrogen bomb," who headed a group at Los Alamos in the Theoretical Physics division, was Director of Livermore Laboratory.

Teller was impressed with the newspaper clipping Lazar showed him of his jetcar at a symposium, enough for him to help Bob get an interview at Area51...so, its details like these that get overlooked/forgotten..he just didn't walk into a job like that without some credentials, from someone of Teller's stature no less!

Edward Teller Wikipedia entry

EXACTLY. Pretty much what I said earlier... and why I was disappointed with Stanton Friedman's claim that Lazar is bunk because he did not have the grades to get a look in at Los Alamos. That's the sort of proclomation that Stanton prides himself on throwing at the debunkers... and I am a big Stanton fan.

I failed the subjects I needed to get into IT... yet I became a computer programmer and IT Manager working for 1 of the biggest companies in Australia with absolutely no degrees or Uni qualifications.... because I got in based on evidence I could show that I had learnt my craft and that I could do the job well.

I have no doubt Lazar could get into anywhere if he can show he has the skills...... people who put worth on degrees on paper are usually those who collect degrees.

[edit on 28-8-2009 by Total Package]

reply to post by zorgon

I'm not buying that for a second! What did the job vacancy go like?

Wanted.
Phycisist with no documentation or qualifications to back engineer alien flying saucers. Must be able to keep secrets and have their own overalls!
A keen sense of ones own importance and a vivid imagination are preferred but not essential.
This is an equal opportunities vacancy which is open to anyone, even those who are friends with a wingnut named John Lear!
Please send your applications to ;

Thargo from The Planet Fargo,
Alien Flying Saucer Centre,
Hangar 18,
Area 51, (Somewhere In the desert!)
Nevada.
Please, no canvassers.People with an ounce of common sense need not apply.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
even those who are friends with a wingnut named John Lear!

As I understood things, he didn't actually meet John Lear until well after his story became public. So I don't know that John would be in the movie.

Originally posted by EclipseReloaded
Documentation...that has survived from being erased:





[edit on 25-8-2009 by EclipseReloaded]

I've followed the Lazar story for many years, and according to Lazar/Knapp, the ID card was just a mock up to show what it looked like. They claim the W2 is real though.

It's a cool story, and I'd like to see a well made film, if it has Damon as lead, we can be certain it's not going to be total direct-to-video trash, it will be entertaining, but I wonder if much we be changed under "artistic license".

Personally I'm skeptical but open on his claims. Even though the physics looks dubious to the scientists who've examined the claim, we all know how fast physics changes. As Michio Kaku says, "All the text books are wrong", he was teaching that invisibility was impossible just a few years ago, and now it's a reality (at least for a certain spectrum of light, but the theory allows for all visible light too apparently)

If only Lazar would release the claimed samples of 115, that he says he has squirreled away, it could be proven/disproved once and for all.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Thargo from The Planet Fargo,
Alien Flying Saucer Centre,
Hangar 18,
Area 51, (Somewhere In the desert!)
Nevada.
Please, no canvassers.People with an ounce of common sense need not apply.

Well with comments like that it hardly seems worth my time to reply

I am unsure of what planet you are from but Area 51 has hardly been a secret for a very long time

Here is the Janet terminal in Las Vegas at McCarran Airport. The blueish building is the new three story Passenger terminal... this must have been taken on a Sunday as all the planes are home

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Here is the Janet Terminal at Area 51
+37° 14' 19.46", -115° 48' 43.34"

And then there is Tonapah... the 'new' area 51. You won't be able to see any aircraft though... they are all covered so google can't see em except the Janet terminal

Janet Terminal Tonopah Test Range Airport
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You might want to write Intelgurl here at ATS, or her husband Bios and ask them how they got their jobs at Tonapah. She has been very helpful telling us what is going on up there though she is 'Operating within DoD Protocol'

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.

I'm not buying that for a second! What did the job vacancy go like?
Wanted.
Phycisist with no documentation or qualifications to back engineer alien flying saucers.

No he was at Los Alamos first... his 'unique' way of solving problems was what got him in the door...

'Normal' scientists are stuck in a rut... they cannot think outside the box and rarely consider wild possibilities. When dealing with something like an alien saucer drive, you need people that think on the fringe. Bob is very good at that.

Not many people I know can make their own jet cars

with his rocket car

Must be able to keep secrets and have their own overalls!

No they supply the suits... and you have to leave them at work so you can't take anything home with you. That is standard practice in any facility...

Naturally you must be able to keep secrets... that is why you are required to get clearance and background check BEFORE. Its not really that hard if you don't have a criminal record... In my security system work I had 'secret' to allow me to get onto bases to do my work. You simply contact the various required agencies and send in your application and they do the check. If nothing pops up you get your clearance. Being born in Germany, and then being a Canadian citizen before moving to the US... I had to go through the RCMP, Interpol and the FBI. INS also gave their report.

Took about 6 months but it was simply waiting for it in the mail.

Back then it was free... today it costs you money.. I believe the current rate is $750.00 but that I saw in 2004

But having that gives me some great photo ops When they declassified Sea Shadow some years back I was there for the filming

Here is one of the film crew guys..



This was taken from the back of the Hood. the little deck where motor launches land on the stern







However you needed TS to get a look inside

A keen sense of ones own importance and a vivid imagination are preferred but not essential.

EXACTLY!!! but change this.. 'preferred but not essential' to this 'essential'

Remember that Einstein was a little 'out there' as well. You cannot solve 'out of this world' riddles with archaic mainstream thought patterns. Most major discoveries in the world came from people who explored the fringes and were not worried about what their peers thought of their work

This is an equal opportunities vacancy which is open to anyone, even those who are friends with a wingnut named John Lear!

Funny how you keep insulting people you have never met

Please send your applications to ;

Thargo from The Planet Fargo,
Alien Flying Saucer Centre,
Hangar 18,
Area 51, (Somewhere In the desert!)
Nevada.
Please, no canvassers.People with an ounce of common sense need not apply.

It is obvious to me that you did not read my last post... but for those people who read this thread and are interested in truth...

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