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Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by COOL HAND
Originally posted by The_Clansman
These are americans were talking about, id be suprised if they could hit the enemy and not friendlies
And you are from where?
We seem more than able to hit enough of our enemies to win the majority of the wars we have been in.
no offence cool but americas FF record latley has been let me say this pretty crap
in ww2 u guys were great i think in vietnam u guys went down hill or somein happened there likes
Originally posted by masterp
The IJN Yamato was probably the mightiest battleship. It is certainly the most impressive: 65000 tones, 9 x 18" guns, 3000 men, 265 m long, 4 planes.
I will go with the Yamato and her sister ship. If they had been given proper air cover and anti submarine ecsort they could have caused the yanks a few headaches.
Originally posted by Munro_DreadGod
Yamato wins just....
www.combinedfleet.com...
as you can see the best battleship question is made up of different areas
above link to armor only. But armor is important.
if you look at guns..
www.combinedfleet.com...
you will see the US / Japan equalled each other.
But overall the japs win by a short head.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by ppp
"stop calling us damm english we are the UK get it !
4 countries mate! 4!"
England is 98% of the UK! Scottland, Wales and Northern Ireland are more a problem for England than a benefit! Why do you think they are so keen on devolution! England is also better known, this is why people forget those other countries and just say England!
I cant wait to see a response from one of the other areas of the uk!
exscuse me we invented everythig in england today hell we supply u with 80% of ur water,60% of your special forces
and whered u get 98% thats a load of bull and the only reason ur so well known is because u stole the glory and blame everything on us
i mean come on oh we cant have our own country but its all right for england to rape ,pillage,murder and terorise scotland and ireland
also u damm english are useless the last time i was at bisely i almost got shot by half ur cadets !
also the national anthem? "oh with a mighty rush to crush rebelios scots!" oh aye ? i dont see no rushing to glasgow or edinburgh to crush us
and if we are so much of a problem y do u not want us to leave the UK i remember tony blair almost pleading to the snp's to not leave britain
also was there any need to open fire on civies in ireland ?NO
anyway if ur soo great then y is our top sub base up in the north of scotland? huh?
Originally posted by Argus
I love it when a bitter little person sticks their head above the ramparts.
a bold statement, onw which is quite obviously wrong!
actually you didnt look it up you claimed it as land of england, even if you didnt it still doesnt mke you any less guilty.
I think you will find that any glory that the English claim, we tend to claim it as the United Kingdom or Great Britain (apart from the footy and rugby, where you are on your own mate, we arent gonna take the blame for that !)
HMMMMMMM I wonder why ?
No need to, we got bored of doing it for hundreds of years !
er. why would he want a large portion of his bedrock, guaranteed voters leaving ? of course he wouldnt !
Its called common sense. The main patrol areas required during the cold war were the G - I - UK Gap, the north sea and further up towards the Arctic circle, it wouldnt make much sense to develop the main sub base in Newquay, Cornwall would it ?
Originally posted by The_Squid
Devilwasp you ALWAYS manage to get in an argument whereever I go and you are there...
Devilwasp, England is not so well heard of because "we stole the glory" its because under one of our monarchy's control (Queen Victoria) we managed to build up our power and owned a glorious empire, and the empire was 1/3 of the size of the world.
Originally posted by Rubber
oh come off it. scotland has been a part of britain since it was conquered. that was hundreds of years ago
as in 500 years ago.
so what you got your arses kicked off a frenchman and by the romans where as we didnt get beaten by ethier.
you were beaten by the tudors, wales was beaten, ireland, well ireland was massacred.
so what if we decided to join it huh? so when the 91st infantry where in america your saying you could have done it wi out us huh? or in korea?you beat up a bunch of peaceful civies hmmm real impressive.
anyway, the empire had soldiers from every place it conquered: india, hong kong, the caribean, canada, america even. so how can you claim it was just the uk who built that empire? england had most of the soldiers originally, so what if the scots decided to join?
the empire was disbanded after wwII anyway. we had the largest empire ever.
australia is made up of the decendents of criminals and soldiers.
america is made up of mainly irish americans.
scots are decended from the irish who decend from the celts who come from france.
does anyone care that a brit came up with the inventions? sure he got money and he helped further technology but what does a dead man care for recognition?
Originally posted by Rubber
the english werent beaten by romans, the celts were.
most scottish , at least northern one clans are vikeing based.
most english people descend from the angles and saxons, not the celts.
and if you check your history the anglo-saxons beat the romans.
ever heard of hastings? i know they were from normandy BUT that is in france so frenchman.
which time did we get beaten by the french? if your implying napoleon then scots were fighting then too. there is no military unit made up of solely english anymore.
look it up hell i'll send you a link to the most northern and most oldest clan , sutherland clan , was named and norseman based.
i was just arguing that americans call brits english because they are idiots or just mis-informed. and i am right, the scots did descend from the irish celts.
uhhh no if you'll find it was because scottish traitors betrayed thier country and helped invade scotland.
the picts were there originally but the scots were irish. the only reason scotland was 'taken' is because william wallace was handed over to the british.
i am shocked at how few english people didnt know there was a island inbetween england and ireland called the isle of man. but thats mainly people from the south so atleast most scots know where it is.
Originally posted by Samiralfey
Well, my opinion is Yamato and Bismarck along with Scharnhorst and Gneisenau . Germans had the best, no doubt of it. Also few legendary battleships, Tirpitz, Hipper, Admiral Graf Spee.
Originally posted by The_Squid
As rubber said, the CELTS were beaten, the english wernt occupying england at the time, so it was the CELTS that the Romans beat.
yeah celts beat the romans that were starting to pull out wich still is engageing them not to meantion ratakeing many parts of scotland with attacks. yeah the anglo saxons beat them so what we werent interested in england.
The Anglo-Saxons did beat the Romans, Along with several other nations... but NOT the scots, check your history, the scots just attacked, and pillaged empty villages because the Romans had to pull out from everywhere to defend Rome.
The Normans were originally from somewhere else, just owned a part of France, I would have to double check where they came from though... but I know it wasnt France.