Venus Project and its NWO agenda

I have been keeping up to date as I can with the Venus Project and looked at some of the ideas they have about new types of communities, life without currency, better education etc and it all adds to a very nice place to live.

Unfortunately though its a paradise that will come with a big cost to humanity.

There is no chance of this new form of living becoming a reality without a cull of those members of scociety that are a drain, criminals, and generally the unsavery part of our society, they only want the intellectuals, and respectful people.

To do this we would need a huge cull, and how its going to be done is show in a way by where the Venus Project aime to house everybody. At sea, in the air, space and in very nice trimmed communities which I guarantee you is not 1 mile outside New York.

www.thevenusproject.com...

Then once all those "lucky" people are tucked away in their new homes, out of sight of all the problems, the clearing will begin on earth, through famine, war, destruction, and biological weapons.

Once completed and the earth nice and clean again, the chosen ones will return to Eden and have the world to themselves.

This is a long project obviously, but it ties in with all the virus's, wars, famine and destruction thats going on today, and the withholding of technoligies, and the money spent on space and sea exploration.

I dont any of us have a chance, these projects are for the elite only, and its their way of re-populating the world without the any of us rabble getting in the way of a new evolutionary step.

I've unpacked my bags, and cant wait for Big Brother tonight and the big eviction.

I just keep on finding threads like this recently
about "cleaning up the earth".

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am making a compilation of all these associated events/plans
of "picking the best of the crop" and get rid of the rest of humanity.

Ye it seems to be more obvious though even in the media and actually within society as a whole.

There seems to be a huge challenge out there to break society up into those who have nothing to put into scoiety and those who can bring something to the table.

Ive been a huge fan of the architecture for many years. I wasnt aware that they started making political statements though.

reply to post by multichild


Im sorry maybe i am naive but I seriously doubt that safe houses will be set up for people to escape to while the "bad apples" are wiped out by some secret organizations. While I do believe some of the current conspiracy about intentionally weakening the public health etc. I doubt that all the "bad apples" could/would all be wiped out by human caused war and famine. I think its more plausible that they would know of coming natural disasters via predictions/universe and the like and would prepare for that not anything they totally created.

Dont give these people more power/credit than they have because then you've just lost the battle or rather the war on your psyche. There is a lot more to this than just a NWO agenda.

reply to post by wazthewazzock


That Tom Clancy story is right onthe nail for what I was thinking. Dont you think its scary that there are a small amount of people on Earth who are starting to feel that things liek this are happening, and that the vast majortiy of people who dont bother ot question anything, and que up for such vaccines, are those who will in the end bring desctruction to the rest of society.

That Venus Project looks wonderful, but on reading through it and looking at it, those communities look so select and small, that there is no chance that all the people of the earth will ever live in them peacfully.

It will be about like minded, free thinking, and progressive humans, building a better future for themselves, and a new start for humanity.

Can I come?

reply to post by acmpnsfal


Ok what your saying is just a different scenario to what I was saying. It will still be select and not everybody will be invited.

reply to post by multichild

Not necessarily, a lot of the indigenous people who still have a strong link to their ancient past believe that those who are prepared will survive whether you are selected or not. But that gets a bit esoteric and I dont know how into that you are but it all intermingles you are right.

reply to post by Skyfloating


I think the architecture is incredible, but its very select and is not advertised as rolling cities such as New York, London, Hong Kong etc

Its a very nice place to live by the looks, and the idea of living in harmony with earth, no money and everybody contributing intellectually and spiritually for the better of mankind, wont be everybodys idea of heaven.

There is no way that they will cram all the world into those communities, and live the life they plan too.

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I am afraid the whole venusproject is going nowhere, seeing the location/lab for sale, me thinks it is financially broke..

"extruded houses" and "circular communities" are a nice idea, but people are too much of an individual to fit in those utopian dreams. However, I do appreciate the sentiment behind it: "A fair society for everyone" A pipe-dream, yes, but someone has to have something to strive for...

Oh, and on the "not enough space"? not true, they (he) specifically states that communities will be built on sea too..

The biggest snag of it all is :"how to get the greedy to share" ..Is not gonna happen... The technology is already there since the 60's, yet the corporate world has resisted violently any try towards a fair sharing... the human condition is such, that he wants to feel part of an elite, any elite.

The root is fear, fear will keep human social and humanistic progress in it's grips and stunted till the end of time.

reply to post by diakrite


Yes I agree, if there was at this present time the eay choice to move to the venus project then all hands will rise, and once in all your elitist issues will come into play, and we back to square one.

But as I and one of the other posts said, was that if the choice was that or nothing because of wars or natural destruction through comets, and what not, then I think the opportunity will be gratefully recieved, and in any case the numbers will be a lot smaller than the billions we now live amongst that issues of living close to each other etc will not exists as there will be plenty of room.

I too would like to live like it, but it would take something terrible to happen first, before this idea comes into play, and maybe thats the plan. to keep the idea growing until such scenario occurs, and then it will be turned too, to build for the future.

Thakns guys, for the contribution, I'm on here a lot, well everyday actually and very rarely have an opportunity to post anything as its already done usually.

I've thoroughly read all the webiste , and have come to the conclusion , that dreams and ideas are well founded and hoped for, but ultimately all it would be IF it EVER got off the ground would be a richmans paradise.
You'd have to have a lot of money tp invest in the building of this 'city' life up front, and then redeisgn your life around someone elses dreams.

I wouldn't mind living in a 'utopia' if the whole world was like the Venus Project, but seeing as they only have a 25 acre site to 'practice' on and do all the planning and building with no real equipment, all the idea is at teh moment is a pipe dream.

Yes , we'd all love to live in a world thats not ruled by money, that has free energy generators and has futuristic cars and trains that use maglev to get around, but again all I can see is a society run by the select few who started it.
Those is they envisage their society and live in it would eventually turn powermad as they know they control the civilians and if anyone non-conforms, they are evicted from Eden.
Picture the old film Logans Run , but without the maturing game of walking into death when you hit 30,
Unless those that run the Venus project state to the citizenry , you can either vote us in, or out at any time , we'll not hold elections but it wil be done another way, say like online voting, or 'popularity' voting, where if they do a good job and continually do so then they are not voted out, however IF they do a bad job or seem to be doing a bad job then they are voted out and leave straight away no quarrelling and no delays.

Plus I'm not too sure of EVERYTHING being made of concrete to ensure a natural world, I do like log cabins as they have a bit of character, I would like my kitchen cabinets being made of concrete, whilst a good idea for longevity you'd have to make sure that EVERY eventuality is taken into consideration when building it, like water pipes, heating pipes and drainage pipes etc. , to ensure a good job is one and that you'd have choice to make it your own.
Yes you can have a very tall block to house everything like cinemas and schools, but you'd have to make sure that it never falls down but could also be updated, when it becmes athestically unpleasing to the eye.

Give the Venus project their dues, they've at least given it some thought, but thats all it is, a thought with a couple of 'houses' made up already, 25 acres ain't gonna cut it, you'd need a couple of thousand to make it worthwhile IMO.

One thing that also worries me or puzzles me to be honest, IF the NWO manage to kill off most of the worlds population what are they going to do with all that land or space thats freed up? Apart from try and own it and then charge the survivors to live there, it's be like ye olde medieaval time, when landlords were paid byt eh farmers to live there. At least the Venus project has taken into account the populations needs and decided to build UP in order to allow the planet to repair itself and then be able for teh citizens to re-plant the forests and greenbelts.

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Thanks DataWraith I starred that contribution, it was brill.

I'm glad also that you agree its for a select group, and I didnt think of the other scenario, of being voted in or out.

There would be no crime or discussion as you will fear being voted out by a computer that can make 1 trillion decisions a second, but yes they say that human brains cant deal with that, but on the other hand no computer will ever have the first hand emotion of humans and why decisions are sometimes made, not for the better of the whole but for that person as an individual.

I think its what humans will arrive at after we have been through an orwelian state, so I do think at some stage we will get to a similar position in life as the venus project, but it will be as a result of a vast de-population, and for the chosen few.

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If i told you elements of... are trying to SAVE earth

would you believe me?

I guess not..

@ Multichild

Not being funny - but the OP here strikes me as someone who may well be part of the very NWO they talk about.

Have you ever ACTUALLY met anyone who is part of the Zeitgeist Movement? the Venus Project? Or even someone who has properly studied social mechanics?

Jacques Fresco is a highly intelligent man. His designs are reiterations of a common theme about the future postulated by people far more intelligent than us, for decades! You talk about things that you have NO expertise in.

Yes, he is an idealist. Yes, he will never see his designs come to fruition. Yes, his designs may require a better standard of population growth management. But these are ideals for a reason. Because they are a damn good idea.

You say that an unfair and unrepresentative cull is necessary for his designs. That's just moronic. You've clearly been smoking something interesting to dream that up. Has the Venus Project or any INTELLIGENT person associated with it EVER suggested that is required? No.

So please, don't slate something that you clearly have no idea about. It just reinforces the stupidity clause that many people on ATS appear to have signed up to recently.

I'm all for positing conspiracy theories - but honestly, up your standard a little bit to something believable.

The Para.

I've been a bit suspicious about the Venus Project and Zeitgeist Movement since I watched Addendum. "Peter Joseph" seems so secretive, for one.

I joined the ZM website a while ago and the people on the forum really freaked me out with their discussion of plans for their own utopias. Most of them I would never want to live in. Fascists, I tell ya!

I do know a lot of people personally who are really into the Venus Project and Zeitgeist Movement though, and they're all good people. Nothing like the fascists who post on that forum.

Thanks for bringing this up. I have teased Zeitgeist-ers that I know, told them I'm not going to drink their kool-aid and it will be a bummer to be sitting in a prison camp while they all get to live in utopia. Mostly joking, but it's not impossible.

They really don't seem to have NWO-level funding right now. It could be a sort of public relations campaign though. A primer for "new world" thinking, so to speak. Testing the water.

I totally like the ideas and agree with it all for the most part, I just don't trust the source.

reply to post by Parallex


Yes I'm well in with the NWO - we hang out all the time, and as for the Venus project, i did say it sounds like a great place to live, but what I was doing is giving my reasons why it wont for us until something terrible was to happen. Its a new start and idea for thr future, but it just would not fit in or happen as we are now.

Its a "big idea", oops slipped another one of my mates lines in there, old Bushy boy be taking me off his xmas card list.

I was being honest, that it wont work, and I was giving a scenario when it woudl work. After something terrible has happened, and we need to start all over again, and hoepfully the resources will there to buidl it.

reply to post by multichild


I think the Venus project is an awesome idea and that it can be implemented without the need to cull anyone.

What are the alternatives anyways?

We continue bombing the crap out of each other around the world.
Millions continue to die of starvation, malnutrition and disease.
The few control the many.
The planet is getting royally screwed up and everything is dying.

I like the idea of the Venus project better than what we currently have.

reply to post by eMachine


you are correct in your understanding...

Mindless drones is what its all about.. with bells and fluffyness

utopia is not what it seems

Logans run comes to mind... very spooky indeed

reply to post by warrenb


Yes like I have said its a fantastic place.

Firstly all trade by money woul dhave to stop, then we would need to secure those places as the wars, and bombings you mentioned will also be able to hurt the venus project.

Its a brand new way of life, its as though we just landed on earth and we can make a new start, there is just too many selfishness, too much greed, too much aggression, and to much poverty and a lack of education in third world countries for a project like this to be appreciated.

It would only include the modern civilisation, as we can only appreciate its goodness, when there are people in Ethipoia for example who's basic needs arent when to go to the cinema, but how they can make a bowl of rice last a couple of days and support a family.

There is too much wrong in this world at the moment, for this to work.

If somebody of real standing and power, wakes up tomorrow and says, hold on guys, just hang in there we building all this to be ready in 5 years time, stick my name on the list!