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The NanoThermite might have been "painted on."

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:53 PM
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One of the methods that could've been used according to Stephen Jones and Kevin Ryan, is by actually "Painting" the substance on without the workers knowing what they were "painting."

Stephen Jones about 1:36 in this interview:

www.youtube.com...
"You could paint on... and the painters might not even have known what they were working with."


Kevin Ryan on NIST and its connections with NanoThermite:
NIST-NanoThermites
"Such alternative material could've been spray-on nano-thermites substituted for intumescent paint or Interchar-like fire-proofing primers."


What are your thoughts on this? It is certainly an interesting twist.





[edit on 20-8-2009 by talisman]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:08 AM
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I'm of the opinion that it was deployed in a "tape roll" sort of form as well as a paste. Perhaps I should look for band like lines on the pictured beams when I have a little time.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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Very interesting. There is something else that has caught my attention.

This....

www.911blogger.com...




Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway.



Here is a company, who was involved in demolitions but was also to do renovations on WTC and its Steel.




The Port Authority of NY/NJ claims that contracts with Turner Construction - including those that might describe the renovation work being performed by Turner Construction until the very morning of September 11, 2001 - were destroyed on September 11, 2001.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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Perhaps these newly developed nanoenergetic compounds were added to the structures under the guise of 'fireproofing' foam.

The nature of this compound would allow for it to be disguised in what would appear to be fire-proofing foam - when is actually a demolitions technology that is being applied directly to the metallic frame of the buildings.(other elements could also be added to the foam matrix so as to facilitate and increase the efficacy of the primary reaction)

This highly energetic compound can be activated electrically, negating the need for a conventional activation mechanism (wires,detonators, etc.). Many high-grade thermates/thermites can be activated in this manner.

**A sufficient charge need only be applied to a single point on the metal framework to initiate the reactions this destructive compound disguised as fireproofing throughout the entirety of the areas where it is applied - and would do so almost instantaneously due to the conductive nature of the metal framework of the buildings. No detonators would be required, just exposure to sufficient amount of electrical current. ;-)

Modern remote detonating capabilities should be taken into consideration, as they would explain the absence of many of the things the public commonly associates with controlled demolitions.

Remote Detonation of the conventional explosives would reduce the amount of cordage and detonators that would otherwise be required or such an operation. Modern technology would also greatly reduce the requirements of such things as wires being connected to each device - wireless technology exists that would be sufficient for the task, and which would negate the need for such things.


This highly energetic compound (nano-thermite) can be activated electrically, negating the need for a conventional activation mechanism (wires,detonators, etc.). Many high-grade thermates can be activated in this manner...

A sufficient charge need only be applied to a single point on the metal framework to initiate the reactions this destructive compound. No detonators would be required.... But they would be required for the conventional explosives situated at strategic points in the structure.
(As far as wires and cordage being a requirement for conventional explosives; Even The Iraqis detonate their primitive IEDS remotely....)



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Detonate thermite? That's like detonating a candle.

You also realize the steel was not painted in place, right? It comes from the fabricator already painted. So the fabricator is now in on "it".

And now the fireproofing is actually highly volatile substance that, if accidently ignited, would cause the collapse of the entire building?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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Look at the link here:
www.911blogger.com...




Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway.




Here is the KEY IN THIS:




Previous work performed by Turner Construction at the WTC included fireproofing of the only floors that were struck by United and American airlines flights on September 11, 2001 and that later burned and "failed".




If you go to the Link you will see the December 2000 WTC property assessment. The work that had to be done etc.

considering also this:



In 1997 Turner Construction also constructed the new headquarters for the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA). The Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center, a laboratory managed by NAVSEA was described during the 1990s as the "National Center for Energetics", the "Pentagon's jargon to broadly describe explosive materials, propellants and pyrotechnics" and as the "only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States".



It seems to me that highly specialized (paint) or whatever we should call it, could have been packaged and produced without many of the staff or workers even knowing. This of course is conjecture but it is an interesting thought considering the history of Turner.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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What do you mean "the history of Turner"? They are a major, international construction and construction management company that does all kind of construction and demolition. Are you now saying anyone who has ever had any involvement with the US gov't is now a suspect? Who do you think runs these companies and works for them? You would imply that any employee of Turner is a potential mass murderer if the money is right. Can you say that about any other company?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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I think at some point we have to "loose" the idea that companies/universities and people won't do "really, really bad things." The have done so in the past and there is no reason to think human nature has changed that much.

Consider this: (some of which was secret for over 30 years)
www.whale.to...

THE HUMAN RADIATION EXPERIMENTS
How scientists secretly used US citizens as guinea pigs
during the Cold War:




Some of the classified government experiments included: * Exposing more than 100 Alaskan villagers to radioactive iodine during the 1960s. * Feeding 49 retarded and institutionalised teenagers radioactive iron and calcium in their cereal during the years 1946-1954. * Exposing about 800 pregnant women in the late 1940s to radioactive iron to determine the effect on the fetus. * Injecting 7 newborns (six were Black) with radioactive iodine. * Exposing the testicles of more than 100 prisoners to cancer-causing doses of radiation. This experimentation continued into the early 1970s. * Exposing almost 200 cancer patients to high levels of radiation from cesium and cobalt. The AEC finally stopped this experiment in 1974. * Administering radioactive material to psychiatric patients in San Francisco and to prisoners in San Quentin. * Administering massive doses of full body radiation to cancer patients hospitalised at the General Hospital in Cincinnati, Baylor College in Houston, Memorial Sloan-Kettering in New York City, and the US Naval Hospital in Bethesda, during the 1950s and 1960s. The experiment provided data to the military concerning how a nuclear attack might affect its troops. * Exposing 29 patients, some with rheumatoid arthritis, to total body irradiation (100-300 rad dose) to obtain data for the military. This was conducted at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco.





...Amazingly, these clandestine studies were conducted at the most prestigious medical institutions and colleges, including the University of Chicago, the University of Washington, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Vanderbilt University in Nashville, and the previously mentioned universities.



So we know that people/universities and companies do really bad things.

Now keep in mind Turner has done "Military Work:"


Turner Corporation 1997 10-K Report During 1997, the company completed work on ... the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters (NAVSEA) for the Navy in Washington, DC. www.buck.com...!TURNERC&nam=DEMO2&pw=DEMO2



It seems a little coincidental that they did work on "fireproofing of the only floors that were struck by United and American airlines flights on September 11, 2001."

Excluding the Pentagon where a Plane hit a newly "renovated section" as well. That's 3 planes on 3 different buildings hitting renovated areas, which is strange-but that is for another conversation.

But back to my point. They did "fireproofing" and other work that is not disclosed because ,,,"The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001."
www.911blogger.com...


I would like to see this explored more fully. Especially in light of what Stephen Jones and Kevin Ryan have speculated about, on the "painting" of the nano-thermite or used as fireproofing etc...



[edit on 21-8-2009 by talisman]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 02:45 PM
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Just to add something on Turner Construction and the Investigaton into the collapse. Notice how the records that show exactly what they were doing with the steel is destroyed, but at that time I am sure there would have been people who would have known what kind of work they did. A true investigation into the collapse would have looked into the possibility that the work had some "effect" on the collapse. This should have been looked into in case of future buildings that caught fire and were recently renovated by such.

The fact that it wasn't looked into is suspicious.

[edit on 21-8-2009 by talisman]



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