Israel can delay Iran's nuclear program

Delay is the keyword here.Does Israel plan to keep attacking Irans nuclear facilities once their rebuilt?What if Iran decides to respond with bio/chemical weapons?

reply to post by AgentX09

like i said in my post Iran is going to be idiots and attack the u.s bases in response , so in turn we will unleash are full air power and finish the job Israel started , not only taking out the nuke program, but any military capacity that's a threat

Originally posted by standupamerica32
reply to post by AgentX09

 

like i said in my post Iran is going to be idiots and attack the u.s bases in response , so in turn we will unleash are full air power and finish the job Israel started , not only taking out the nuke program, but any military capacity that's a threat

> You may be underestimating Iranian intelligence.They would have their handfuls striking back at Israel alone much less the US.It would be suicidal on their part.

reply to post by St Vaast

Israel's had nuclear weapons for years.

You said it exactly. They've had them for a while. And they haven't used them. To me, that shows some restraint, considering that they are attacked on constantly. I agree that they are a rather violent and war-like country, but when your constantly bombarded by suicide-bombers, scud missiles launched by other countries, and persistent threats of destruction from your neighbors, sometimes a peaceful solution just doesn't work.

The Israel situation is a pretty good example of prominent revisionist history. Israel is always made out to be the bad guy in all their conflicts. The other side is never shown. More stories can be sold by painting Israel as the villain. Many of Israel's battles and wars are defensive ones. Israel is often provoked or attacked, and then goes to war whichever country starts it. But, once involved, Israel is a destructive force and doesn't go easy, and many people die as a result. Yes, Israel has made many, many regrettable decisions, but so have all the other Middle Eastern nations around them. Usually, both sides in the conflicts are wrong.

It's kinda like the situation with America nuking Japan in WWII. The US is always made to look like heartless killers by dropping the bombs, and saying that Japan was about to surrender and the atomic bombs just took many more lives than would have been lost in the war if it was played out conventionally. This is simply not true. Japan was ready to fight to the death, and they only surrendered because they thought we had an arsenal of nuclear weapons, when those were really our last ones and we were bluffing in an attempt to end the war. If not, millions of more would have been killed. Keep in mind, these were the first (and only) nukes to ever be used in war or an attack. Nobody knew what effects they would have. But you rarely hear any of that. Instead, America is villanized as much as can be. Admittedly, it does seem wrong for that many people to have suffered and died in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and my heart goes out to them. But I wasn't there when any of this happened - I wasn't even born until about 45 years later - so it's hard to make a judgement. Now... Israel is always taking heat too. However, they are often provoked, and don't go to military action right away. Then they are provoked again, and again, and again. Finally they snap and fight back, and then are roasted alive by the media and onlookers. For example, the most recent Gaza war was provoked by the Hamas.

On December 25, after Israel had "wrapped up preparations for a broad offensive," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert delivered a final warning in an interview with the Arabic language satellite channel al-Arabiya. He said "I am telling them now, it may be the last minute, I'm telling them stop it. We are stronger."[63]
On Friday, December 26, Israel reopened five border crossings between Israel and Gaza to supply fuel for Gaza's main power plant and to provide about 100 truck loads of humanitarian aid, including grain and other goods.[64] That same day, militants fired approximately a dozen rockets and mortar shells from Gaza at Israel

Wikipedia - Gaza War
It wasn't until after these attacks that the Israeli offensive was launched. When Israeli went on the offensive, that's when the media had a field day. But nothing about the original strikes by the Hamas was mentioned...

I am not advocating war or violence at all. I absolutely hate it. But Iran has clearly said that Israel needs to be destroyed and wiped out. A country ran by leaders calling for the nation's destruction, and about to be in possession of nukes, truly is a credible threat to Israel, and they have every right to be worried. Hopefully, this can all be resolved peacefully.

reply to post by AgentX09

even if they don't have the targeting ability n the reports they are going to lob missile after missile through Iraqi airspace, in witch Iraq is not going to like and we will respond in some fashion to stop it. whether that leads to war with Iran is another scenario, either way when Israel attacks in the 2 month time frame its not going to be a good thing for the middle east in the sense of more war but it is a good thing if the first Israeli strike and possible second attack by the u.s. can take out the Iranian nuke ability to eliminate the threat, and also to stop a nuclear arms race in the middle east

I don't think Israel will attack Iran without a nod and promises of assistance from the US and at least some assurance of non-interference by states like Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia (who also have a lot to lose from a nuclear Iran).

If the US gave Israel its backing, Israel would probably strike sooner rather than later. But they won't do so unilaterally unless things look desperate.

Given Obama's and the Democrats' dovish stance towards the Iranian regime, I don't think they'll have the balls to make that decision. It seems that a nuclear armed Iran is an inevitibility, and things will change a lot in the Middle East in the near future (for the worse in my view).

[edit on 17-8-2009 by mattpryor]

I don't think Iran would provoke the US by attacking US bases in Iraq. That would be a illogical move by Iran.

All Iran has to do is actually shoot down as many fighter Jets and fighter bombers as they can to weaken the next retaliation from Israel. I don't think Israel can do all the targets in one go.

Iran's goal if Israel attacks is to retaliate in a manner that would keep the US from stepping in.

I think Iran would try to retaliate by taking out Israel airports or try to prevent Israel from sending more Jets. That would leave Israel with just one option to nuke Iran.

reply to post by spy66

if Iran fires through Iraqi airspace or flies through Iraqi airspace the u.s will respond in some way . the question is how to measure the response to the threat posed and how much the Iraqi government wants done

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However..............

You assume that Russia has not guarantied Iran if attacked and they attack the US, Russia will protect them from the US counter attack.

With that, Yes, I do think they would be stupid enough to attack the US forces.

It will end up in a utterly destroyed Iran, but non the less.

Some more news relating to this topic from JPost:

Peres meets Medvedev to discuss Iran

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev hosted President Shimon Peres for talks Tuesday that were expected to focus on the Middle East and the Iranian nuclear standoff.

Iran: No preconditions for nuclear talks

Teheran is ready for nuclear talks with the West without preconditions, a senior Iranian nuclear official was quoted by state television as saying on Tuesday.

"Talks without preconditions is Iran's main stance in negotiations on the nuclear issue," Iran's envoy to the UN nuclear agency watchdog, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, was quoted as saying, according to a Reuters translation.

[edit on 18-8-2009 by mattpryor]