Hubble deep field like you've never seen it

i spent ten minutes searching that damn picture, trying to look for something remotely triangular. I re-read the bit about it being boomerang-esque and realised you were talking about the giant freaking galaxy in the centre of the picture...

It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy.

OMG...

It's a galaxy.

Scrap the bit about us wearing tin foil hats, hows bout straight jackets.

Totaly nice pics cant stop zooming in and out hrs of entertainment thxs

as for the ufo being bigger then a galaxy why not? you are asuming our size in the universe is universal, doubtfull, even more doubtfull when u compare our sun to other suns discovered, a dot right?

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by ALLis0NE
Some reason I get the feeling these images are fake.... totally fake.

Here is a good example... I found two stars with the SAME EXACT rays. They are in two different locations.

What are the chances that both of these stars would have exact identical rays? One star is slightly rotated, but you can see dark areas in the smaller rays that match exactly, to the T.

Almost like they just computer generated the image and released it..

If it's real, cool. But I get this feeling they are faked...

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Actually, they aren't the same. Light glare is going to be light glare no matter what. If you look closely you can see differences.

However, it is possible to see the same star/galaxy in multiple places at the same time. The reason is due to dark matter being between the telescope and the galaxy/star or object.

I'm no expert, but I just remember reading about this. And if you look in the deep hubble pictures, you can sometimes see 3 or 4 of the same thing mirroring around the places, and it's all due to dark matter. It also warps the way it looks like the light is being bent around it.

It's called Gravitational Lensing.

So, I don't think that is the same star showing up twice, but you do bring up an interesting topic in itself.

Gravitational Lens and Dark Matter

Most everyone is familiar with lenses. They are found in eyeglasses and other optical instruments. When light hits the curved glass in a lens, its path is bent and the image of the light source changes.

Einstein's general relativity theory predicts that strong gravitational fields will bend the path of nearby light rays. As a consequence of this theory, a very large mass can bend light rays and in a sense become a lens. The lens is a gravitational field rather than a piece of glass. It is called a gravitational lens.

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Discovery

The answer came in 1979 when astronomers found two quasars, 0957+561A and 0957+561B, that are extremely close together in the sky. The numbers in their names refer to the position in the sky, as is common in naming quasars. Because they are both so close to the same position the A and B were added to distiguish the two quasars.

Further study revealed that these two quasars, like identical twins, are so similar that it seemed they were a double image of the same quasar. Detailed photographs of the region, made under the best sky conditions possible prior to the Hubble Space Telescope, revealed a faint fuzzy region near one of the quasars. This fuzz is a faint elliptical galaxy between the quasars and us.

They thought it was 2 twin quasars, but in reality it was actually only 1.


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reply to post by Mer Ka Bah

They do appear to be the same, but you can see they are different. Examine the 4 main rays and you'll see the variation of color on each.

Thanks for posting those great photographic accomplishments of the Hubble team.

The UFO objects in the Orion photo could be closer than the nebula itself, and still come into clear focus on the photo.

I find it strange that the Hubble deep field, being as wide as it is, has no streaks from passing objects such as asteroids, meteors, etc.

Makes you realize how insignificant we are as individuals. We will have no effect on this universe. Amazing that God even knows who we are, let alone every thought, word, and deed or every problem He helps us with. It is even more impressive that He would come here to die on a cross for us because He loves us.

Nice images, though... they are very old news, several billion years old news probably .

What we're seeing here are literally images of the past, very, very far into the past.

In fact, if someone THERE can see us as clear as we can see each other, they'd only see first forms of complex multicellular organisms. Yes, they'd actually see us when we were only few cells floating in water.

How about that "scale"?

Originally posted by upnorthtrip
Very nice

If you zoom in the orion pic in the center,you will find a giant cigar shaped spaceship.
Maybe is some pooh in the lens

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WOW! What a post!

Thanks for pointing out the the spaceship, I see it, unbelievable. I wonder if NASA or whatever govt agency is in charge of this project missed the spacecraft?

Originally posted by upnorthtrip
Very nice

If you zoom in the orion pic in the center,you will find a giant cigar shaped spaceship.
Maybe is some pooh in the lens

[edit on 14-8-2009 by upnorthtrip]

Maybe its a cigar shaped planetship... I wonder what they are doing. All that space and we sit here on this rock worring about money and trivial crap like a football game. We really need to channel our energy somewhere else I sometimes think... Maybe then we could be observed from far away...

Nice fine, S&F.
That's only a tiny section of our universe and there is so much out there, incredible stuff. I can't believe that there are people who think that there is nothing else out there and all this is for us.... and they call us crazy

Absolutely stunning and beautiful, most likely teaming with life… it puts everything in perspective.

Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful find!
S&F'd!!

Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by ALLis0NE

 

Actually, they aren't the same. Light glare is going to be light glare no matter what. If you look closely you can see differences.

No, the majority of my life is spent looking at images pixel by pixel. I see almost no difference between the two. The only difference is one of them has more "blur" added to it, and is slightly rotated to the right.

Here I circled the major similarities that make me curious:

The chances of these being identical are astronomical.

You don't have to explain anything to me. Everything you could tell me I already know.

I have already thought of every single way these could be identical. Lens issue, film issue, ccd issue, gravity issue, all the issues... I just don't see how they could be so identical. They must be a trillion trillion light years apart....

I just don't buy that this specific image is authentic. That is just my opinion though. They look computer generated, and there is no way to prove they are authentic.


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Originally posted by adrenochrome
reply to post by Charismagic

 

you can't see that it's obviously a GALAXY?!!!

sheesh... gargantuan triangular mothership?!!

no wonder people call us conspiracy nuts...

please, Internos, Phage, SOMEONE, care to take this?!

[edit on 15-8-2009 by adrenochrome]

Lol!

Yup, you are right!!!!

Now it looks like a galaxy! Sure have got ATSitis!

Is it just me, but if you go to the orion site,in the upper left section,where there's a seam in seperating two sectionof the cloud.check out where the begining of the white light is starting.I see a lady dressed in white,with a headscarf and long flowing gown.It get's better,see seems to be leaning against a mountain,now if you look to where the bottom of her gown is draped over a rock,to the left you can see two children,a boy and girl kneeling at the base of the rock,and the boy seems to reading a book.Is there anyone else who can see this.

Originally posted by davo2012
i spent ten minutes searching that damn picture, trying to look for something remotely triangular. I re-read the bit about it being boomerang-esque and realised you were talking about the giant freaking galaxy in the centre of the picture...

It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy. It's a galaxy.

OMG...

It's a galaxy.

Scrap the bit about us wearing tin foil hats, hows bout straight jackets.

Yup, accepted!!

My bad. Figured I have ATSitis

But that galaxy plus the mass of clouds surrounding it had no right to impersonate a boomerang shaped HUGE UFO!

Kidding, guys...

I zoomed in really close and look what I found!

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/afc85454e2f7.jpg[/atsimg]

AlphaTier,

Thanks for sharing. What incredible images. Wow!

im speechless! thanks so much for this, these are the types of threads i love the most and hubble is amazing.

Im a firm believer in UFO's but im a bit skeptical about these being star ships, simply because i how gigantic they would have to be, although i must admit the cigar shaped thing in the center of the Orion nebula is interesting.

and as for the poster saying that those 2 stars are exactly alike making this picture fake....imo those 2 stars are very similar, but lets just say that they are 100 percent the same, our universe in infinite. whose to say that maybe just maybe they could have formed that way? maybe earth has a twin out there, maybe our solar system has a twin out there, the possibilities are endless.


SnF

Originally posted by Charismagic
But that galaxy plus the mass of clouds surrounding it had no right to impersonate a boomerang shaped HUGE UFO!

Those are not clouds.... it's not smoke either...

Those are actually billions and trillions and zillions of stars and galaxies that come together to look like clouds.

Just like billions of molecules of water come together to make clouds, those are billions of stars that come together to make what looks like clouds.

Just in case you didn't know.

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Well, I could go and circle all the differences, but then I realize - I really don't give a crap if you want to think it's the same.

But I guess if you are right, I'm amazed at the amount of trouble the TV networks go through to give the same effect when a group of lights glares in the camera at a football game and each of them look exactly alike. What a pain that must be, and all just to cover up future telescope images!





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