Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma

Well, if Bush didn't start the Iraq war or give AIG and banks $4 Trillion in bailouts

WE WOULDN"T BE IN THIS POSITION.

Pulled out the links from the article:

Obama gives powerful drug lobby a seat at healthcare table
www.latimes.com...

White House Affirms Deal on Drug Cost
www.nytimes.com...

Drug Industry to Run Ads Favoring White House Plan
www.nytimes.com...

White House Assures Drug Makers on Reimportation
online.wsj.com...

Healthcare FLASHBACKS (VIDEO)
www.huffingtonpost.com...

[edit on 14-8-2009 by Pathos]

reply to post by Iamonlyhuman


Everyone complains that the Huffington Post is pro-Obama. This seems like a good argument to the contrary. I'm sure the source of this story will be forgotten tomorrow.

Walkwithfish nailed it. I'm laughing. I'm lovin' it! To me the most important aspect of this story is not the fact that the Whitehouse assumes the public is asleep..BUT the fact that the Huffington Post is pulling back the curtain on the Obama the FASCIST. If people like Mrs. Douglas start exposing the White House and its traditional fascist methods, its game over.

This is not socialism people. It is Fascism. Fascism is when the government and big industry join forces to rule the people. We are witnessing a fascist revolution take place right under our noses. The worlds largest auto maker was taken over by the government. Goldman Sachs has taken over the Treasury and Pharma is taking over the healthcare bill.

The government is systematically getting into the most profitable businesses in our country. Instead of taxing them to death, they are taking over the rackets. The mafia learned early on that regular payments beat the heck out of irregular stick ups.

THIS IS WHY CITIZENS ARE FREAKING OUT AT TOWN HALLS. It has nothing to do with a right-wing conspiracy sending programmed zombies in to derail the process.

Obama has underestimated the intelligence of the average American perhaps comparing them to the ignorant, uneducated, jobless negroes incapable of doing anything besides looking for a government handout that made up the bulk of his constituency in the early years and followed him like programmed zombies to the polls all the way to the presidency.

A revolution is coming and this angry white male is ready to step up. ITS TIME TO FIGHT FASCISM. 9/12

HEY RAHM EMANUEL, TAKE THIS EMAIL AND TRACE IT BACK TO ME IN NORFOLK, VIRGINIA SO I CAN SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by JayinAR
You can never trust insurance agents, real estate agents or lawyers... or so they say.
And I agree.

You forgot to add politicians. Nothing worse than a politician, except maybe a child molester.

Yep, real transparent, Obama. Keep up the good work.

I'm a lawyer. Don't trust me. Oh wait....If you can't trust me, and I said don't trust me, doesn't that mean that you should distrust my advice with regard to not trusting me? In that case, you should trust me, but in order for that to be true, I must have initially lied about my own trustworthiness.

Originally posted by zarp3333
Walkwithfish nailed it. I'm laughing. I'm lovin' it! To me the most important aspect of this story is not the fact that the Whitehouse assumes the public is asleep..BUT the fact that the Huffington Post is pulling back the curtain on the Obama the FASCIST. If people like Mrs. Douglas start exposing the White House and its traditional fascist methods, its game over.

This is not socialism people. It is Fascism. Fascism is when the government and big industry join forces to rule the people. We are witnessing a fascist revolution take place right under our noses. The worlds largest auto maker was taken over by the government. Goldman Sachs has taken over the Treasury and Pharma is taking over the healthcare bill.

The government is systematically getting into the most profitable businesses in our country. Instead of taxing them to death, they are taking over the rackets. The mafia learned early on that regular payments beat the heck out of irregular stick ups.

THIS IS WHY CITIZENS ARE FREAKING OUT AT TOWN HALLS. It has nothing to do with a right-wing conspiracy sending programmed zombies in to derail the process.

Obama has underestimated the intelligence of the average American perhaps comparing them to the ignorant, uneducated, jobless negroes incapable of doing anything besides looking for a government handout that made up the bulk of his constituency in the early years and followed him like programmed zombies to the polls all the way to the presidency.

A revolution is coming and this angry white male is ready to step up. ITS TIME TO FIGHT FASCISM. 9/12

HEY RAHM EMANUEL, TAKE THIS EMAIL AND TRACE IT BACK TO ME IN NORFOLK, VIRGINIA SO I CAN SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS!

The auto companies are the LEAST successful. How does that fit into your manifesto?

is anyone really surprised?

[edit on 14-8-2009 by middleclasssoldier]

reply to post by andrewh7


You're a lawyer.
I don't trust you.

Regardless your attempt at mental gymnastics.

The auto companies will be back on their feet again especially with the govt. on their side. Just as important is the amount of people they employ. The dems had a practical lock on the union vote. Once they own the union, or visa versa, the votes will be guaranteed.

If your employer makes it clear how they want you to vote, what are you going to do?

reply to post by andrewh7


How does the auto industry debacle fit in? It doesn't, unless you are Ford.

They secured a few hundred billion in insurance approximately a year before everything fell. So they are doing just fine.

Like everything else, it is consolidation of weath. The "redistribution" of wealth. Would you expect the company that Henry Ford (nazi) founded to falter while ushering in the Fourth Reich?!

Neither would I.

I like many voters have been so busy just trying to raise a family that I've participated in the governing process from arms length.

The process has become so rotten that its becoming impossible to disregard the stench. Please don't get me wrong from my menacing pic. I have a degree from a private liberal arts university. I have 4 kids and am middle class.

I'm certainly not a skinhead or psycho racist, I'm just sick of the idea that 300 million people's health care is going to be taken over so that the 20 or so million who truly can not get health care will get it.

Many of those 20 million are the lowest of the lazy, high school drop out losers. This is insane. With welfare and free medical, why will they ever get their asses off the couch.

Look at the disenfranchised arabs in France and England. They are on the dole with free health care and their unemployment rate is two to three times greater than the native population. The government creates institutional poverty with hand outs.

Pardon me while I go upstairs and vomit before bed. I would be happy to debate you on the merits of your argument but I am having a hard time following your logic.

I have started to calm down...for now.

The funny thing is when you read through the denial of the Huff on this Post tards. They seem to panic and make excuses for their boy anywhere they can. Several actually tried to blame Fox News and Bush.

I like Huffington Post. In general, the articles are liberal, sure. But that doesn't mean they are necessarily unreasonably biased or untruthful. That article was hardly the first one critical of the Obama administration. All alternative news sources have the same underlying motives; to get great scoops that get picked up and linked all over the place. The MSM in contrast, generally have so many conflicts of interest, and in many cases commentators have even been paid directly by the government to plug certain initiavites. To be fair, the first I remember hearing of it was during the Clinton admin., but the Bush administration made it common practice (remember Armstrong Williams and No Child Left Behind) So, bravo Huffington Post. Keep up the good work!

With every story like this, I feel that all is lost.

What can we do? Everything is monitored.

I don't dare write how I feel for fear of TPTB tracking me down.

Mass consciousness...if you understand this subject, then I hope you understand what I mean by this. It's time.

They can't take our minds.

reply to post by Maxmars


It is a heck of a win win for the corporations as most of the crap coming out of Washington is these days. The real problem is that a bill to reform health care, by overhauling the fda, limiting pharmaceutical authority in disease management and providing real tort reform will never happen. Allowing or expanding personal health savings accounts and reducing government intrusion and corruption are the things which will never show up in a reform bill. When I hear that congress is putting together a package, or bill, or law or any other word, which will benefit the American people, I start looking over my shoulder. It's classic doublespeak, the bill will screw the American people, which in congressspeak means help, just like the federal reserve act was meant to limit the banks and actually overthrew the treasuries role in the minting of coin. Every single bill which is touted as being beneficial for the little guy is ALWAYS meant to screw the average individual and benefit the corporations, ALWAYS. People who think they can trust the federal government in any way shape or form really should just line themselves up on a cliff and jump off so the rest of us can get on with living our own lives, without their intrusion.

reply to post by Freenrgy2


If you feel that the powers that be (all lowercase on purpose) are tracking you down, STAND UP AND SCREAM EVEN LOUDER!

Or not. How about we just beat them at their own game.
Tomorrow, everyone, compliment as many people as you can! Please, plesae, please.

Lets put some positivity back.

I wrote a thread about this and I am becoming sickened that while people bitch about this stuff they aren't willing to do the simplest of things to try and stop it.

Everyone is fed up? Everyone is pissed? Anyone who isn't is a mindless sheep? Stop the spiral downward and lift people up. Just for one day!

But alas, people are too worried about feeling 'crazy' about crap they read on an internet forum.

reply to post by zarp3333


I think the auto takeover was to solidify the autoworkers vote. they now own a big block of the company and are guaranteed to support obama all the way. i don't know why this matters because obama already has the union vote bigtime, but surely the union was the reason for that takeover.

Well what anybody expect, the Obama health care reform needs big pharma to be in their side, Obama can get away with eliminating private health insurance, but Obama can not get rid of big pharma.

So the big pharma found the opportunity to cash in in the Obama health care and boy oh boy cashing in the opportunity they are.

Lies and deception, that is what our own for the people government has become.

[edit on 14-8-2009 by marg6043]

reply to post by Freenrgy2


relax. everything you do is monitored. be yourself, there are too many people awake now to worry about another Ruby Ridge.