The Pentagon Wants Authority to Post Almost 400,000 Military Personnel in U.S

You have nothing to worry about, they are only going to round up the stray republicans

In times of emergency or a disaster.... You will be welcoming the troops in the streets if there is a revolution/emergency, because they will take advantage of the chance to beat your door down, rape your wife and steal all your crap.

You honestly think that US military personnel would allow all you civilians to be hearded around like cattle and put into prison camps?

Please....

reply to post by CT_Flyboy

We should also remove all the men and women fighting the wild fires in California unless they are from the immediate area of the confligration.

News flash. Those are NATIONAL GUARD members, not members of the regular army. That is part of the job of the National Guard.

This thread concerns stationing REGULAR army soldiers for action.

www.ng.mil...

California Wildfires The National Guard is assisting the U.S. Forest Service in firefighting efforts to contain, control, and extinguish wildfires in California.

You may also want to consider that, with 400,000 more personnel in the US that have jobs and pay, income for businesses and spinoffs of businesses, like you, will have an increase in income.

As was mentioned before, your military is behind you, not after you. Some are getting the two concepts confused.

As these write ups appear, I will post them in this thread. This one today August 15th, 2009.

The Pacific Free Press
Hard Truths for Hard Times

Much of the groundwork for the intervention of the military has already been established. There are indications that these "regional teams" have already been established under USNORTHCOM, which has been involved in preparedness training and planning in the case of a flu pandemic.

Within the broader framework of "Disaster Relief," Northern Command has, in the course of the last two years, defined a mandate in the eventuality of a public health emergency or a flu pandemic. The emphasis is on the militarization of public health whereby NORTHCOM would oversee the activities of civilian institutions involved in health related services. (Michel Chossudovsky, "H1N1 Pandemic: Pentagon Planning Deployment of Troops in Support of Nationwide Vaccination," Global Research, July 31, 2009)

They wouldn't do that, would they?

Since his inauguration in January, President Barack Obama's administration has continued the repressive policies of the Bush regime. From warrantless wiretapping to corporate give-aways, and from presidential signing statements and the indefinite detention of "terrorism" suspects to the escalation of imperialist adventures in Afghanistan and Iraq, like Bush, the Obama administration represents the continuity of policies across a narrow bipartisan political spectrum, designed to bolster the national security state.

Moves to implement quarantine regulations and Pentagon plans to assume control during a national public health emergency are clear signs that democratic decision-making processes in the United States are growing weaker by the day.

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so strange, why bother even getting the authority for something like this if you didnt think you were gonna use it.. very troubling news indeed

Originally posted by TheCoffinman
so strange, why bother even getting the authority for something like this if you didnt think you were gonna use it.. very troubling news indeed

They're doing it to gauge the public's reaction. About 95% of government operations exist under the radar, the remaining 5% are little proxy-reports to test the waters for the public's general reaction.

Namely, they can look for any notable reactions and dissenters.

As it stands, the reaction is dismally low, so they're just gonna write that down and move on.

reply to post by burntheships


The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 has it's limitations.


for example:

There are a number of situations in which the Act does not apply. These include:

* National Guard units while under the authority of the governor of a state;
* Troops used under the order of the President of the United States pursuant to the Insurrection Act, as was the case during the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.
* Under 18 U.S.C. § 831, the Attorney General may request that the Secretary of Defense provide emergency assistance if civilian law enforcement is inadequate to address certain types of threats involving the release of nuclear materials, such as potential use of a nuclear or radiological weapon. Such assistance may be by any personnel under the authority of the Department of Defense, provided such assistance does not adversely affect U.S. military preparedness.

Insurrection Act.

On October 1, 2008, the US Army announced that the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team (BCT) will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command (NORTHCOM), as an on-call federal response force for natural or man-made emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

This marks the first time an active U.S. Army unit will be given a dedicated assignment to NORTHCOM, where it is stated they may be "called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive (CBRNE) attack." These soldiers will also learn how to use non-lethal weapons designed to "subdue unruly or dangerous individuals" without killing them, and also includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and beanbag bullets.[7] However, the "non-lethal crowd control package [...] is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S. [...]".[7]

The US military will have around 20,000 uniformed personnel in this role in the United States by 2011, specifically trained and equipped to assist state and local government, respond to major disasters, terrorist attack, other major public emergencies.[8] This shift in strategy is a result of recommendations by Congress and outside experts.[8] This response capability is not new, but now accompanies a permanent assignment of forces to NORTHCOM.

You face more danger from your fellow man, then you ever have from any Government entity.
So really, nothing has changed. Your watch list is just longer now.
You're still broke, always have been. You're still going to have a boring job that doesn't pay you what you're worth. You're still going to struggle to make ends meet, and you're still going to shoot anyone that endangers you or your family.
So AS YOU WERE GENTLEMEN!!!

This short video has the original article from the OP.

They do not need 40,000 troops. That is crazy. What kind of diaster would need 40,000 people and why would they need to be armed? Its things like this that make me not trust our goverment.

Not sure this is really pertinent to the topic....but it might be.

For the last year or so I have been getting many invitations from the State Level of the public health department, to attend "training". I get at least one a month.

I am licensed to practice my profession here, and in several other states and I guess this is where they got my name, credentials, etc. After giving the time, place, agendas of the training program, at the bottom of the invitation/notification there is a place where they identify what your role would be in the event of an emergency.

Mine states: "To calm hysterical persons".

Now, it has never addressed the nature of the emergency. I have assumed it to be in the event of another terrorist attack. But none of the invitations have specified the nature of the catastrophe. Maybe it could be just anything. Storms, flu, attacks, whatever.

reply to post by ladyinwaiting


Very interesting, your comments. Your experience is similar to a handful of people I have talked with.

Since 9/11 our county has never been the same. We now live with an underlying suspicion that all is not as it seems. For some, they might have always had doubts. 9/11 was my awakening.

Even then, it took years for the truth to sink in...
A family friend who is a Chaplain for county law enforcement traveled to New York to work with the 9/11 victims, and familys of. Perhaps, as you say this is what they search for, and try to prepare for.

As a growing majority of the people have suspicions surrounding the governments role in terror attacks, it is prudent to watch closely. Lest we the people, and the States be caught off gaurd.

[edit on 16-8-2009 by burntheships]

I can definately see the economy worsening or H1N1 inducing widespread panic. You can see that this would give the government an excuse to implement marshall law. But, i believe private military corporations will be hired to keep order because FEMA and the National Guard would not suffice. Total lockdown of the country primarily using PMU's, i can see it.

What about a impending meteorite strike on earth. That would cause a good many people to go nuts and panic and riot and loot ect..... I wouldn't mind having protection against those a-holes and I don't think we have enough police to handle the matter.

Why are they worried about a world wide epidemic because of some kind of INVASION of area 51?

An article on the subject from Monday, August 17th, 2009

The Pentagon wants the authority to call up military reservists in natural disasters as well. But it also wants the authority to control them in such cases.

The National Governors Association opposes this idea. The CEOs of the states say this would make it difficult to coordinate emergency responses.......

.........Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas and West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin, chairman and vice chairman of the NGA, responded in a letter to the Pentagon:

"While we appreciate the outreach, governors remain cautious about changes to the military's authority to engage independently in domestic emergency response situations."

Governors want a clear chain of command and fear that the Pentagon proposal would complicate planning, result in duplication of efforts, and interfere with governors' constitutional responsibilities.

www.dailymail.com...

The point made here is easily understood. This write up contains dozens of links with the original articles. It is worth a read!

This matter is still at power struggle stage!

The 1st brigade already have 20,000 US troops on the ground in America and the pentagon is now asking for another 400,000 troops to be deployed on American soil. We know the military will be assisting with the mass vaccinations and will be easily deployed if civil unrest becomes an issue within our borders. The National Guard are training now for riots and our military/law enforcement have put everything in place to lock down America if martial law is ordered. The Department of Defense is pushing for domestic control while our Governors are opposing The DOD’s Emergency powers

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Will it turn out to be like the Czar? Will US troops have the courage to fire on themselves for the sake of redemption? I hope not. I hope the 400,000 troops decide to go AWOL and enjoy the beauty of our national parks system. That is what they should be defending with honor.

270 million civilian held guns in the USA, and just 400,000 troops requested to ensure safe keeping ? Gosh?, what's wrong with this picture.

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