UFO-s in Estonia (Pictures)

Here are couple of pics i found and would like to have your opinion on these pics

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3dcafafddfa9.jpg[/atsimg]

second one

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ee399df4a475.jpg[/atsimg]

And the third one zoomed in

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c2b453bad36f.jpg[/atsimg]

I wish that i could have more info on these pics, but i don't.

Then there is another pic that i found in the local newspaper

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b3dfdaf104f9.jpg[/atsimg]

It was taken yesterday and the guy who took it said it hovered out of the clouds and then flew off with incrdeible speed.

PS. The last pic looks like this because it was in the online version of the newspaper and maybe because of that the pic look's so "grany"

Here's the original link to the article

To look at the pictures in full size use right click.

Thank's

R

[edit on 13-8-2009 by rixhell]

Interesting pics! one of the better UFO pics around

reply to post by Total Package


Thank's

Yes, my tought as well, just hope someone here can identify the size of the objects.

There should be enough refrence points to do so, or i misunderstood the whole idea how to size the objects.

What's the connection of the 2 biker pics and the UFO? I can't see any UFO in the 2 pics

I agree with JFletcher, I can't see the zoomed in bits on the original pictures. has the ATS media bit snipped it off or something? (or am I a bit blind )

The last two photos look like every other typical photos of birds flying by.

The first one not sure what it is, but the quality is low and you can't make anything out of it. Even if it was something interesting, it's useless and proves nothing just by itself.

Originally posted by JFletcher
What's the connection of the 2 biker pics and the UFO? I can't see any UFO in the 2 pics

They are embedded 1024x768 pics: you don't see the ufos because the system cuts the right side of each pic.

Try here

files.abovetopsecret.com...
files.abovetopsecret.com...

The first pic is the most interesting but from some 16x8 pixels there's no way to do anything serious. This is what has been caught on camera (pixel resize, by a factor of 1/30:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/3d4bf11554083a54.jpg[/atsimg]
Basically, it could be anything, but i'd say UFO so far.

The second one should be some bird, whatever it is, it's flying in direction left right at least according with its motion blur.

The third one also seems to show some bird, but its quality is too crappy to make any judgement.

Waiting to get blamed to see birds everywhere: it is NOT my fault, birds very often look like that, check by yourself

Right click on the biker photo and view it in another tab. You can see the ufo on the right side.

Now I saw it...well, pic one there's something "round" between the clouds and the trees..could be anything. Pic 2 - looks photoshopped 2 me - IMHO OR it'a a bird.
The 3rd pic - isn't very believable also...

Thank you everyone on your replies



Meanwhile i was able to get you some information on the last pic of my OP

Here are the links to the original pictures. (The larger pictures will open in a new window)

Picture 1

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Picture 2

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Picture 3

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Here's some technical data hope it help's

Color depth:
24 bit
manufacturer:
NIKON CORPORATION
Camera model:
NIKON D80
Image color:
sRGB
Shutter speed:1 / 800 s
F/14.0 F/14.0
Focal length:
18 mm 18 mm
ISO sensitivity:
400
Flash:
No
Imaging time:
August 2009 11:27

And this is where i think the guy who shot it was standing


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Its approximatley 290-310 meters away from the windmill's.

The windmills itself stand 65 meters tall and each of the 3 blades are 22 meters long.

I wonder how big the object is?

And thanks internos for the two "birds" with one strike replay

"t was taken yesterday and the guy who took it said it hovered out of the clouds and then flew off with incrdeible speed"

High speed hawks yet again. Love how people don't actually read the OP, just spout off. When birds hover they have to flap their wings. So unless the guy was 1 lying about the experience, 2 blind as a bat, in which case they take amazing pics for someone so impaired. You have some real explaining to do as to why you think it is a bird?

Zoomed in on the large pic and can;t see anything which suggests wings flapping or a head and tail. Could be wrong, but the photo needs more analysis before it's so easily dismissed.

reply to post by rixhell


The second picture, the bikers saucer shaped UFO was already discussed in the thread
titled “Unknown object caught on picture” by Maestro28 in October 17, 2008. Here the
link.



The picture provided by Maestro28 is no longer available but smirnoffsky posted the
picture with a second identical UFO made by him just as a test. It's in the second page
of the thread or see the picture here.



I made my contribution also at that time and gave some information about the photo
and the bikers event. It's in the first page or just read here.

The picture's name is jogeva treff. This name means moto meeting event in Estonia.
Then the photo was taken there meaning it's authentic. Here is the info in Photo 4.



Every year, in August, there is held the moto-meeting “Jõgeva Treff” in Estonia. On
this moto-meeting you can meet bikers from different countries of Europe (about 800
bikers every year).At this photo you can see how local people welcome bikers.

Now to the issue. Is the UFO real? It is not added with photoshop. Don't be fooled
by the jaggies and artifacts, this is a low resolution, jpeg compressed picture so the
jaggies and artifacts around are perfectly natural. Still doubting? Here learn about it.

Originally posted by FireMoon
When birds hover they have to flap their wings. So unless the guy was 1 lying about the experience, 2 blind as a bat, in which case they take amazing pics for someone so impaired. You have some real explaining to do as to why you think it is a bird?

Whenever it comes to EVIDENCES what you have to consider first are EVIDENCES, ignoring at least initially, what the witness says, unless you are in front of some MASS sighting: if we would have blindly believed to all witnesses here, the 99% of what has been fully explained now would still be unexplained.
Now, yes i know that when they hover they have to flap their wings, i've never thought that they have wings just as decoration: what we see, indeed is not some hovering bird. But in my opinion it's a bird. You are right, though, i should explain the why.
Why do i think it's a bird?

Because it looks like many other birds, like for example the infamous Cornwall UFO.

123paranormal.blogspot.com...
Or some other examples:

www.theufochronicles.com...



Do you see any wings flapping? No? But they are birds. The one in the second photo of the OP is just slightly more blurred, that's why you can't see some detailed outlines. I could be wrong of course, i'm just expressing my opinion, which i am entitled to at my own risk ("bird" is by far the most dangerous word to spell here in Aliens and UFOs forum).
Now, please, tell us why you don't think it's a bird and, please, provide some better explanation, thanks in advance


reply to post by rixhell

rixhell, thank you for sharing the hi-res

Now that i see it in hi-res, i can see that it looks to be extremely out of focus if compared with all the rest of the photo, and it doesn't seem to be just because of the motion blur: this makes me think that it's VERY close to the camera, so a bug would be more likely than a bird, in my humble opinion, of course i could be wrong.

(ed. for spelling)



[edit on 14/8/2009 by internos]

reply to post by free_spirit


Thanks, free spirit, i had the feeling to have already seen that

NOTE: Photoshop IRB detected

From Jpeg snoop. Thnx for the hoax

Thanks for all the image work guys.
Take a photo that kisses the sky and you get a UFO for free.

The Wind Mill field is a great place for a UFO to hover.
The safest airship in the world is an ether ship that proves
the ether is more stable than the air.

All done by Tesla long ago.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
All done by Tesla long ago.

There's a question i need to pose to you since MUCH time: Tesla did this, Tesla did that, every body flying needs to be related with Tesla, including birds, bugs and even crocodiles. In your opinion, is there something able to fly that is NOT related to Tesla? (this is the question)
The man passed away on 1943, PERIOD. There's no way to make him come back to life. Tesla was a great man, but you link tyo him stuff that he would NOT appreciate.

reply to post by internos


Clearly your bird photos are birds.

If you take the Tesla's UFO link in my signature you will
see in Tesla's own words of an aircraft that he developed.
There is a possibility the Belgian Triangle and Foo of Germany
have anti gravity based on the same principles of electrical
levitation found un blacked out in a FBI interview of people
who viewed Tesla's many demonstrations.

Thus there is a reason to mention Tesla as there is the ET in
the finding the construction of the UFO craft.
One internet contact a few years ago just about called them
ether ships as the only way to explain the words of Tesla.
If indeed he had a primitive test of levitation that was stable
in the wind and storm and he states his craft is the safest
and steady in wind and storm then the ether must be very
stable and thus one might call his ship, now the ufo, an ether
ship (of his design and construction).

I never thought I would come to that conclusion but I must
now sound like the person I crossed text with years ago who
knew more than I did.

ED:
See first two images
See the air being lit up and disturbed above the coil and the
shape. This shape surrounds the craft and disturbs the air
surrounding the craft.
That is how the shape comes about and how Tesla in involved.
ED+:

Tesla experimented with many coil shapes. Here a conical coil, demonstrated in his lab in 1895, is "specially adapted to excite the electrical charge of the earth." The streamers at the top of the coil are of purple hue and several feet in diameter. Tension is about one million volts.

See below the image.

[edit on 8/15/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 8/15/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

[edit on 8/15/2009 by TeslaandLyne]

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Would you like to start a thread about THIS?
I would support you in finding anything you would need.

Originally posted by internos
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

 

Would you like to start a thread about THIS?
I would support you in finding anything you would need.

Tesla : The Lost Inventions by George Trinkaus
/qeucqo
The beam's 4 components are mentioned in one of the reproduced
articles.
However in the linked document Tesla's UFO in the signature:

Excerpt from “Tesla at 78 bears new Death beam” Jul 11, 1934 NY Times: “The production of the death beam, Dr. Tesla said, involves four new inventions, which have not been announced by him. The scientific details of these inventions are to be given out by him before tha proper scientific bodies in the near future. …. “The first inventions, he said, comprises a method and apparatus for producing rays and other manifestations of energy in free air, eliminating the high vacuum necessary at present for the production of such rays and beams. The second is a method and process for producing “great electrical force.” The third is a method for amplifying this process in the second invention. The fourth, he said, is “a new method for producing a tremendous electrical repelling* force.” (*repelling may have been changed from “propelling” in this article to mislead. Tesla has always referred to a propelling force.)

Dr. Tesla did not say it was a death beam and later made statements
to that fact.

As far as Wikipedia goes, I post in the discussions as some 'official dude'
says I make things up (that is I generate 'original' content).
There is so much wasted information out there, so it is time to
take Tesla back.
We were deemed ready for Einstein but not ready for Tesla.

Go ahead fine with me but I never see much from Tesla researchers
that jive with the Tesla's UFO link in my signature.

We know his legacy is locked up in the Robert Oppenheimer Library
basement at Los Alamos, so there is not much we can do.

We can check for other death ray threads and the wiki page is a clutter
of extras in which only Tesla's exact words should be posted.
Not some newspaper writer death ray label.
What would he know about Tesla's equipment.

The Tesla conspiracy goes beyond the 'death ray' into many topics.
Here is the death ray which accumulates great force for the craft
attached.
A focused charge accumulator (aluminum half sphere terminal)
which will apply the stability.
A power generator which is his disruptive coil.
A magnifier which is the flat spiral coil.
A force concentrator which is simply the craft predicted to go 300mps
in another statement (or a big capacitor).
The experts dismiss Tesla statements on purpose to lead us astray.

I don't think much of the Wiki page and only Tesla's words should apply
which no one has bothered to put up.

Perhaps the propelling vs. repelling assumed doctoring of the original
text might be exposed and the adulterating forces might be exposed
as a reason of all the extraneous important looking comments.

The best thing for Wiki is the just show what Tesla said which would
lead to a big disappointment.