help me find fault with John Lear's 911 scenario..?

I firmly believe and have said so, I believe someone threw a monkey wrench into the events of 911... its clear something broke... it was slicker than spit on a griddle. thats so so scary... that we can be controlled like that... whats your views on Mr. Lears take on the events....

www.youtube.com...

Chronic hypoxia from too many flights with bad oxygen gear?


Okay, couldnt resist that one. Have not had a chance to watch it yet, however, I will as long as he is still not claiming holographs were responsible.

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You want fault? I'll give you fault. If you've ever read much of what John has said, you would know that he says a lot of wild, crazy stuff. The one that comes to mind is the soul tower on the moon. What a bunch of crap. Okay, so if he's full of crap about something else, why wouldn't he be full of crap on this issue as well?

well that is one view that will be investigated as well as many others views on the events but evidence speaks of verifyable proof of guilt... pay rolls and tax records... etc.. it could take months to find everyone but we will be through, and we are willing take years to find all the perfs... oh, well ... what else is new...? slow week for conspiracies ... cant wait til Paris Hilton gets a boob job. or Ted Kennedy 24/7 non=stop for a week... arg... puke
I just dont know why we just all cant get along ... oh thats right, we being oppressed and lied too and cheated... oh did I leave anything out just posted...

The fault with John Lears theory on 9/11 is that its John Lears theory!
I love listening to what he has to say but i dont for a second believe any of it.
Pure fantasy.

He claimed 9/11 was organized to justify a war in Iraq and ultimately...Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan was so the CIA or shadow Govt could seize control of the heroin market. Once they controlled the heroin trade, the money could be siphoned into a black budget to finance the war against hostile aliens from our bases on the Moon.

If you think that's anywhere close to being plausible, realistic or believable I can only hope you're not allowed to play with sharp objects.

Originally posted by LiveForever8
The fault with John Lears theory on 9/11 is that its John Lears theory!
I love listening to what he has to say but i dont for a second believe any of it.
Pure fantasy.

But of course. All pure fantasy. Lear was actually personally brainwashed by the even more evil Oshumpty Bin Laden, to discredit the US Govt.

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My government paycheck comes from maintaining F-16C/D's and nothing else.

As for Mr. Lear's theories..the military WISHES it had some of the technology that he claims was used on 9/11/01. It would come in handy when dealing with terrorists planting IED's in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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I didn't listen to the interview, although I believe I have heard it some time ago. I have heard other interviews with him. He used to have his own forum on ATS until some kind of acrimony developed between him and management here, I believe. During the time his forum was up there were many lively discussions and many arresting opinions expressed by Mr. Lear.

He knows how to draw fire, but usually kept his cool and his sense of humour under heavy bombardment.

With regard to 9/11, I think the most controversial position he held was that no planes crashed anywhere on 9/11. He completely rejected the aviation scenario televised or reported on in the news for technical reasons derived from his experience as an aviator with numerous qualifications. As far as I know he believes that holographic images were used to fool the public into thinking that planes were involved in 9/11 and that all of the damage sustained on that day was due to planted explosives.

Some people have a problem with that. lol.

You can dig into threads of his which are still archived on ATS and sample the mayhem yourself. Personally, I liked John Lear and I'm sorry his forum is gone.

Originally posted by BornPatriot
I firmly believe and have said so, I believe someone threw a monkey wrench into the events of 911... its clear something broke... it was slicker than spit on a griddle. thats so so scary... that we can be controlled like that... whats your views on Mr. Lears take on the events...

Seriously...if you need help finding fault with John Lear's 911 scenario, you are beyond help yourself.

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I believe it is on the Air Forces wish list ... which usually means the technology is Available.

what if they are Patriots planting IED's... would that make a difference... people are fighting and dying for their Ideals.... I dont know what they are... but let one Russian step foot on American soil to free me and see I dont turn into what you call a terrorist... after all, we are the invaders and illegal ones at that.

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for planes to crash there must be parts of planes... I see his logic... and what I saw having to do with planes... all evidence is a video...
the plane parts are from other than the planes used on 911... what conclusion else can you draw... yes, people saw planes, yes, people heard planes.... but where is the hard evidence... its missing or wrong... WHY...?

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Well Ive been saying that a long time...
Until we know the truth... we are just guessing... now call you senator and demand the truth, a real investigation by regular people and I think the list of those to be hung will not shed any tears from the liberals, I can assure of that. me, I'm Fisically Conservative, Liberal on rights and laws, and Socialist on communal issues. I would say the majority of freedom lovers everywhere is somewhat simular - I would imagine...

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It's so clear that many of you are not on the level about the Black Ops.

First of all, John Lear isn't that crazy at all. But you most connect the dots yourself before condamn someone.
He said that not all his knowledge came from experience but from a source that he believes to be trustworthy. In the case of 9/11, the holographic plane was from his source, not his own.

A second scenario came from Henry Deacon, and just like John Lear he had been working within one of the many projects of the Black Ops.
The exact words came from an interview with projectcamelot.org :
The planes that hit the twin towers were remotely controlled (over-riding the pilots, and with software modifications that would permit tight turns that would normally be impossible due to autopilot default limit settings). The remote control was enacted from thousands of miles away.

So we now have 2 different scenario's but the most important thing that they have in common is that both info they retrieved came from a source they believed to be trustworthy.
Both believed their source and were probably both manipulated to spread disinformation. Short, they have been screwd by people they trusted. And they do know this is possible.
Knowing this, that reopens the question... were one of the two planes real or not ?
One thing is sure, one of the planes was not a liner ! No normal little windows at each side could been seen, only one in front where the pilots sit. This is easy te notice on a video.

Second, to think that ET's has nothing to do with the bad scenario's on earth would be a mistake. The Elite are influenced/manipulated by those ET's who are also behind WOII and Hitlers Dream. One world government. Sounds familiar, isn't ? They were also involved.

A remark on the soulcatcher on the moon. Yes there are ET's on the moon, yes there are ET bases on the moon and YES even humans has their own base. Remember that the Elite wants to dig (mining) for ... on the moon. Working with that equipment shows that they must have a way to stay for a long period on the moon wich prooves the possibility of living on the moon and even an underground base would be more logical than to stay above ground.

Soulcatcher... where pictures prooves of -what is called- a huge colorful castle that floated above the surface. So the castle does exist.
Soulstealing... that is what it really is, many whistleblowers came forward with approximately the same info. Not specific about the castle but that this technology really exist. Souls are for trade among other malevolent ET's.

Just a hint, if you can catch a radiowave into a device called radio and knowing that a radiowave is nothing more than an energy, than why would it be not possible to also catch another kind of energy like that of a body -better known as a soul- ? It's nothing but energy !

So I was right

No one reacts...

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There is nothing wrong with Lear's theory.

He know's his stuff - he says you can't fly those particular planes at that altitude at that speed. I think he knows more about that side of things then most people.

As for holographic images he's probably right - youtube "september clues".

There was NO aircraft wreckage at any of the sites - Planes do not disintegrate. (the only wreckage was an engine found in NY that was NOT from a passenger jet).

Take a look at pilots for 911 truth. They ask similar questions to John Lear.

John Lear's got my vote of confidence.

NO WRECKAGE = NO PLANES



... Also, there was no FAA records of those flight numbers ever taking off.

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