Project Camelot Interview Dr Steven Greer

He looks very nice here with hair.....

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Originally posted by thegreatobserver

Well, if you conduct an interview with someone you actually are interested in this person's opinion and knowledge. The least you can do as an interviewer is to let your interviewee finish a sentence. It is very unprofessional and rude to wast one hour of the interviewee's and audience's time to engage in an argument with no point.
The interviewer's role is to guide the process and ask questions AND THEN LISTEN! not talk over them. That's the purpose of an interview. You listen to other people's opinions and findings and THEN (after the interview) cross reference and comment on it.

True enough, but as Kerry said, their format of interviewing will switch to debate if they have legitimate questions to ask.

The interrupting is something that's always bothered me about Kerry's interviewing style. Just when you think you're going to hear something juicy she'll randomly interrupt and take the interview off on a tangent. However, some people can be interrupted with no problem, because they're mostly always talking fluff (like Greer)

It would be a disservice to all of the PC fans out there just to act as a platform for Greer to talk about how great he is. And that is about the only thing he'd actually do if given an interview by someone with a weaker personality than him.


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reply to post by davidifty


Do people really buy into this?

I can else smell the narcisism from a mile away. After 10 minutes I couldnt watch anymore...

10 months of food left... 3 years of oxygen....

that was a good laugh... I wonder how much they make off their subscribers and "donators"?

reply to post by davidifty


EDIT: I just watched a lot more of the interview. Some pretty crazy concepts I'd never heard of before, thats for sure...

But yes, Kerry's ego went way out of control and I wrote and email to PC stating how unprofessionally she handled herself.

Good god, I thought I had a good grasp on my patience, but I had to remove myself from watching the video just to stop the angry thoughts that were circulating my mind...

As far as what Dr. Greer had to say, and he seemed very sure of himself, was pretty thought provoking. Whether real or not, I was unaware of the possibility that we may be manufacturing Grey and Reptilian species or that we could open up the lower Astral plane to manifest lower life energies into our realm of existence. Crazy stuff.

What I do like is his view that people need to should not jump to the conclusion that something is automatically ET and not interdimentional. I do think there are inhabitants of earth that exist solely in other planes of existence, and I'm sure people could easily mislabel them.

Anyway, interesting interview, I'll never watch another one with Kerry in it.

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Originally posted by Lazyninja
Originally posted by thegreatobserver

Well, if you conduct an interview with someone you actually are interested in this person's opinion and knowledge. The least you can do as an interviewer is to let your interviewee finish a sentence. It is very unprofessional and rude to wast one hour of the interviewee's and audience's time to engage in an argument with no point.
The interviewer's role is to guide the process and ask questions AND THEN LISTEN! not talk over them. That's the purpose of an interview. You listen to other people's opinions and findings and THEN (after the interview) cross reference and comment on it.

True enough, but as Kerry said, their format of interviewing will switch to debate if they have legitimate questions to ask.

The interrupting is something that's always bothered me about Kerry's interviewing style. Just when you think you're going to hear something juicy she'll randomly interrupt and take the interview off on a tangent. However, some people can be interrupted with no problem, because they're mostly always talking fluff (like Greer)

It would be a disservice to all of the PC fans out there just to act as a platform for Greer to talk about how great he is. And that is about the only thing he'd actually do if given an interview by someone with a weaker personality than him.


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Have you seen the biceps on him?

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she's disgusting!
she needs a man with a big d...you know!

reply to post by Sam60


lol Sam you're in love with him I think!

I always thought Greer looked slightly reppy... maybe human-reppy!

Where's the site we can ask these ETs ourselves?

ps. the Lazar/Greer render was freakishly similar! Brother reppies perhaps?

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by Sam60

 

lol Sam you're in love with him I think!

I always thought Greer looked slightly reppy... maybe human-reppy!

Where's the site we can ask these ETs ourselves?

ps. the Lazar/Greer render was freakishly similar! Brother reppies perhaps?

His biceps are nuthin' after you check out his legs...

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reply to post by Sam60


Um, can you stop spamming this thread with off-topic posts about Dr Greer's physical appearance?

To me, the interview should not have gone ahead the way it was conducted. Kerry should be ashamed of herself. For instance, look at the snide pouty schoolgirl glares at the camera when she feels she can't get a word in edgeways. Look at her constant vague waffly unfocused interjections, that clearly showed she was out of her depth with Dr Greer.

And to continually come back to the good ET vs bad ET argument over the entire duration of the interview, she had clearly 'lost it'. Very disappointing.

Then we had Bill on the other side, sitting like Kerry's dutiful lapdog, at one point declaring he had been abducted in the mountains back in 1981! Eventually Dr Greer had both of them chipping at him from both sides, I must say he handled himself with commendable aplomb throughout.

I thought I had seen the worst when the Paracast people ripped into him a couple of years back, but I never expected this from Project Camelot. These are people who have licked the boots and kissed the feet of the likes of Dan Burisch with no desire to challenge him whatsoever. So why the hate towards Greer? Apart from the benevolent vs evil ET thing, they have a lot of common ground.. the only way to get the interview to flow and move forward is to find points of agreement. Dr Greer with his dream of the two lions at the end of the interview diplomatically illustrated the direction they should've taken. They blew the opportunity many of us former supporters were waiting for a long time.

And now with some of their whistleblowers deserting them (for example, Dan Burisch, John Lear, Michael St Clair all distancing themselves from PC), I can't help but feel they are blowing themselves apart.

reply to post by Helmkat


There is a major, covert effort to demonize aliens...

Please read the following quote from Wernher Von Braun from his death bed message to the world: Link to full interview by Dr Carol Rosin::

Nota Bene - these words of warning were spoken before his death in 1977- 1977!! Bold emphasis is mine:

When I was a Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries from 1974 through 1977, I met the late Dr Wernher Von Braun. We first met in early 1974. At that time, Von Braun was dying of cancer but he assured me that he would live a few more years to tell me about the game that was being played- that game being the effort to weaponize space, to control the Earth from space and space itself. Von Braun had a history of working with weapons systems. He escaped from Germany to come to this country and became a Vice President of Fairchild Industries when I had met him.

Von Braun's purpose during the last years of his life, his dying years, was to educate the public and decision-makers about why space-based weapons are dumb, dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, unworkable, and an undesirable idea, and about the alternatives that are available.

As practically a deathbed speech, he educated me about those concepts and who the players were in this game. He gave me the responsibility, since he was dying, of continuing this effort to prevent the weaponization of outer space.

When Wernher Von Braun was dying of cancer, he asked me to be his spokesperson, to appear on occasions when he was too ill to speak. I did this. What was most interesting to me was a repetitive sentence that he said to me over and over again during the approximately four years that I had the opportunity to work with him. He said the strategy that was being used to educate the public and decision makers was to use scare tactics That was how we identify an enemy.

The strategy that Wernher Von Braun taught me was that

first the Russians are going to be considered to be the enemy. In fact, in 1974, they were the enemy, the identified enemy. We were told that they had "killer satellites". We were told that they were coming to get us and control us-that they were "Commies."

Then terrorists would be identified, and that was soon to follow. We heard a lot about terrorism.

Then we were going to identify third-world country "crazies." We now call them Nations of Concern. But he said that would be the third enemy against whom we would build space-based weapons.

The next enemy was asteroids. Now, at this point he kind of chuckled the first time he said it. Asteroids- against asteroids we are going to build space-based weapons.

And the funniest one of all was what he called aliens, extraterrestrials. That would be the final scare. And over and over and over during the four years that I knew him and was giving speeches for him, he would bring up that last card.

"And remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens and all of it is a lie."

I think I was too naïve at that time to know the seriousness of the nature of the spin that was being put on the system. And now, the pieces are starting to fall into place. We are building a space-based weapons system on a premise that is a lie, a spin. Wernher Von Braun was trying to hint that to me back in the early 70's and right up until the moment when he died in 1977.

What he told me was that there is an accelerated effort in place. He didn't mention a timeline but he said that it was going to be speeding up faster than anybody could possibly imagine. That the effort to put weapons into space was not only based on a lie but would accelerate past the point of people even understanding it until it was already up there and too late.

When Von Braun was dying in front of me, the very first day that I met him, he had tubes draining out of his side. He was tapping on the desk telling me, "You will come to Fairchild." I was a schoolteacher. He said, "You will come to Fairchild and you will be responsible for keeping weapons out of space."

The way he said it with this intenseness in his eyes, and added that very first day, the first time I met him, that space-based weapons were a dangerous, destabilizing, too costly, unnecessary, untestable, unworkable idea.

The last card that was being held was the extraterrestrial enemy card.

The intensity with which he said that, made me realize that he knew something that he was too afraid to mention. He was too afraid to talk about it. He would not tell me the details. I am not sure that I would have absorbed them if he had told me the details or even believed him in 1974. But there was no question that that man knew and had a need to know, I found out later. There is no doubt in my mind that Wernher Von Braun knew about the extraterrestrial issue.

He explained to me the reasons why weapons were going to be put into space, the enemies against whom we were going to build these weapons, and that all of that was a lie. He mentioned that extraterrestrials were going to be identified as the final enemy against whom we were going to build space-based weapons back in 1974. The way he said it to me, there was no doubt in my mind that he knew something that he was too afraid to talk about.

Wernher Von Braun never spoke to me about any of the details that he knew related to extraterrestrials except that one day extraterrestrials were going to be identified as an enemy against whom we are going to build an enormous space-based weapons system. Wernher Von Braun actually told me that the spin was a lie-that the premise for space-based weaponry, the reasons that were going to be given, the enemies that we were going to identify-were all based on a lie.

If you want Justice, seek the truth.
If you want the truth, follow the money.



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One possibility that I think Steven Greer may be missing is that Earth could be infiltrated.

If it is true that there are extraterrestrial people who look "human" like us, then Earth could have been infiltrated by "service to self" ETs before, many times even.

Do you really think everyone in the cosmos can resist the temptation to raid and infiltrate an inferior world and rule the people like Gods? Rule by means of secrecy, infiltration, advanced technology, mind control, illusion.......?

Originally posted by RiotComing
I thought I had seen the worst when the Paracast people ripped into him a couple of years back, but I never expected this from Project Camelot.

As if Project Camelot is more credible than the the Paracast people... HA! Good one.

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by Sam60

 

Um, can you stop spamming this thread with off-topic posts about Dr Greer's physical appearance?

I am well & truly on topic.

The point I am making is a simple one......

Greer no longer deserves to be taken seriously.

reply to post by converge


Well, given that you have to take each PC whistleblower with a grain of salt, they have done more in heart and intent to continue what Greer and the Disclosure Project started. Nobody can take that away from them.

But one gets the feeling all things come to an end, and we are seeing an inglorious unraveling of Project Camelot that perhaps began with the introduction of the Avalon forum and subsequent switch to subscription basis.

reply to post by Sam60

And how did you arrive at that conclusion, given that he was the only participant in this interview to escape with any shred of dignity intact?

Project S.E.R.P.O !

There i said it.

Take care.

Regards
Lee

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by Sam60

 

And how did you arrive at that conclusion, given that he was the only participant in this interview to escape with any shred of dignity intact?

I'm basing my conclusion on all the other reading I've done about Greer.

I followed his activities from early on, as did many. I had great hopes for his Disclosure Project. I was so excited about that early stuff.

Unfortunately, something's really gone wrong. The "gravy train" angle, the pictures of moths he claims are "light beings", the NDA's you must sign if you spend time at his very expensive UFO camps, the way he misrepresents his supposed high-level contacts, etc... The list goes on.

I've only worked "glancingly" through the video. Do you think I would change my mind if I listened to it in detail? Personally, I doubt that I would.

Originally posted by RiotComing
Well, given that you have to take each PC whistleblower with a grain of salt, they have done more in heart and intent to continue what Greer and the Disclosure Project started. Nobody can take that away from them.

That's pretty much up for debate.

Many of the so called PC whistleblowers are considered frauds by basically all respected UFO researchers. Case in point: Dan Burisch. Most of the others are flimsy at best.

And it's not so much that I disagree with interviewing these personalities, it's that their modus operandi is truly horrible; and from every single interview I've seen them do I get the feeling they have absolutely no historical sense of the UFO field whatsoever.

They never seem to make the pertinent questions and all they do basically is spread and broadcast all of these people anecdotal stories and unfounded theories.

Forgive me if I don't consider them to be researchers much less to be helping ufology. My personal opinion of them is quite on the contrary: I truly think they do a disservice to the field.

Fortunately, there are a few of radio shows and podcasts that treat and discuss this subject seriously, intelligently and very importantly, skeptically.

reply to post by Sam60


I take your points and no it won't change your mind. A trainwreck for all involved. I am impressed however, how Greer held his nerve. The way Kerry was behaving, other people would've been tempted to walk out, or.even worse, . "do a Buzz Aldrin" on her

Originally posted by RiotComing
reply to post by Sam60

 

I take your points and no it won't change your mind. A trainwreck for all involved. I am impressed however, how Greer held his nerve. The way Kerry was behaving, other people would've been tempted to walk out, or.even worse, . "do a Buzz Aldrin" on her

I'll try to find some time tomorrow to have a more detailed look at the interview.