2009 NFL Predictions and General Thread

reply to post by jkrog08


My question was a sort of sarcastic/rhetorical one.

Originally posted by jkrog08
1999: 13-3, AFC Champions
2000: 13-3, Best Record in NFL
2002:11-5, Lost AFC Championship (division champ)
2003: 12-4, Division champ, lost in divisonal round to New England(at NE) by three points
2007: 10-6, Wildcard birth
2008: 13-3, Best record in NFL

1999: They made it to the Super Bowl. I'll give them that. But they still lost.

2000: One and done.

2002: You say they only lost by 3 points to New England in 2003. Well they only beat Pittsburgh by 3 points in 2002. Otherwise they would have been one and done.

2003: Again, only beat Baltimore by 3 points. Otherwise they would have been one and done.

2007: Who cares about wild card berths? One and done.

2008: Best record in the league? Still one and done.

Originally posted by jkrog08
Tennessee is the the number three team with the most playoff appearances in the last ten years.

Minnesota and Buffalo are tied for fifth in Super Bowl appearances. They're both 0-4. So what does number of appearances mean? A 5-6 playoff record the last ten years (3 of those wins coming in their Super Bowl year) isn't exactly something to hang your hat on.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi


Well let us look at Houstons playoff record........


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Nuff' said.....


Also what does the margin of victory in the playoffs have to do with anything?

Pittsburg made a comeback in 2002, we were up by like 17 points and they came back, the Steelers are always good. The 2000 and last years Baltimore loss was a fluke loss to a team we admittedly struggle with. In 2003, again margin of victory in the playoffs means nothing. NE won all their Super Bowls by 3 points... Plus Tennessee plays a style of ball that usualy leads to closer margins.

[edit on 9/2/2009 by jkrog08]

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And that somehow validates a prediction that Tennessee will make it to the playoffs and/or win the division this year? Explain the logic to me.

At least Houston's playoff record isn't below .500

If you'd like, we can go position by position and compare Tennessee's and Houston's strength. But for anyone who pays attention to other NFL teams and players other than their own, a comparison isn't needed: Houston is the better team.

Originally posted by jkrog08
Also what does the margin of victory in the playoffs have to do with anything?

That's what I'm wondering. You're the one who felt it necessary to point out that Tennessee only lost by 3 points as if it meant something. I was simply showing you how meaningless it was, just the other way around. If you can excuse your losses by margin of victory I can excuse your wins the same way.

[edit on 9/2/09 by NovusOrdoMundi]

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi

Houston is the better team.

LOL.............


I am not saying Houston sucks, they are an upcoming team, BUT to say they are better than Tennessee is just biased and ridiculous and you know it. Tennessees defense is A LOT BETTER, their running game is A LOT better, their veteran experience is A LOT better, the coach is A LOT better, their special teams (mainly kicking) is A LOT better. The only thing the Texans have on Tennessee is the passing game, but the Titans still have a very efficient passing game which is opened up by their two player running attack, which is unmatched in the league. Add to that the vet poise of Collins and the addition of Nate Washington and you have a better pass game than last years. The only major loss the Titans had was Haynesworth, but that is compensated for by the depth of high quality players at the d-line position(led by Jason Jones, his replacement) we gained by his release. Add Kearse and Vandenbosh its over..

Tennessee has their best shot in the last 10 years at least to win the Super Bowl. They will not lose more than 4 games this year. Titans-Giants Super Bowl, like it should have been last year.

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Alright guys and girls the 2009 NFL regular season STARTS
TONIGHT!! With non other than MY TEAM the Tennessee Titans taking on the defending Super Bowl champs in a classic rivalry game. This game is a rematch of last seasons late season battle between Pittsburgh and Tennessee, in which Homefield Advantage was decided. Tennessee won very convincingly by a score of 31-14, blasting the Steelers and sacking Roethlisberger multiple times and causing four turnovers. Many anticipated a rematch in the AFC Championship but that never happened due to Tennessee being upset by the Baltimore Ravens in the Divisional round 13-10. We all know about the Titans Running Back, Lendale White and others stomping on the "Terrible Towel" after the victory, causing an uproar in Pittsburgh and setting the stage for this delayed rematch. This should be a great game between two teams sure to be at the top of the AFC yet again this year. The game is nationally televised on NBC and starts at 7:00 PM CST.

My pick....

Titans over Steelers 31-20

The Titans have had the Steelers number over the last decade and there should be no exception tonight in my opinion. I am looking for a rather comfortable win by Tennessee tonight, the defense should overpower the Steelers and the Titans running game combo of White and Johnson should be enough to complement Collins in the passing game in route to a very effiecient offensive night which should, like last game, have the Steelers at loss on what to cover. It will be interesting to see how former Steeler, Nate Washington responds playing is former team the first game of the year.

Although the Vegas Odds have the Titans 5.5 point underdogs I strongly disagree and think that is an extremely biased line towards the defending champion playing at home. But Tennessee never gets respect anyways, so this is no surprise.


GO TITANS!!!






[edit on 9/10/2009 by jkrog08]

The Stealers, as much as it pains me to say it, by at least 10. Vengence is at least part of it, after the disrespect shown, in their eyes anyway, to the Silly Hankie last season.

21-10 Pittsburgh...

Originally posted by jkrog08
BUT to say they are better than Tennessee is just biased and ridiculous and you know it.

How is it biased? Just because I happen to live in Houston? I'm a Packers fan. I don't see the connection.

What I do see, though, is a Tennessee fan claiming everything the Titans have is better without giving any breakdown of how or why. That's bias and hypocrisy.

Originally posted by jkrog08
Tennessees defense is A LOT BETTER, their running game is A LOT better, their veteran experience is A LOT better, the coach is A LOT better, their special teams (mainly kicking) is A LOT better.

Tennessee has better defensive backs. That's about it on defense. Both teams are about equal at linebacker overall, but the Texans have the best linebacker between the two in DeMeco Ryans. Both teams are about equal at defensive line overall as well, but again the Texans have the best defensive lineman between the two in Mario Williams.

The Texans offensive line is much improved not only on a personnel level but on a coaching level. The Texans have a better quarterback than the Titans. The wide receiver position is not even a contest...the Texans are far superior. The Texans have a much better tight end in Owen Daniels. The Titans have a better running combo because the Texans don't have one. Chris Johnson is a little better than Steve Slaton, but within a couple years I'm sure I'll change my opinion on that. Steve Slaton will be one of the best running backs in this league within a few years. He has all the tools necessary.

The special teams are a toss up. At the kicker and punter position, the Texans and Titans are even. At kick and punt returning, I'd go with the Texans and Andre Davis.

Overall, the Texans are a better team.

Originally posted by jkrog08
the Titans running game combo of White and Johnson should be enough to complement Collins in the passing game

85 yards rushing for White and Johnson combined. Is that the "great" running combo that you have been talking about?

Originally posted by jkrog08
But Tennessee never gets respect anyways, so this is no surprise.

There's a reason for that. They aren't that good.

Do you still think they'll go 13-3 after dropping the opener? That would mean they only lose 2 games the rest of the way. Looking at their schedule there's no way in hell that will happen.

In all honesty, the Titans looked like a .500 team with the way they played. That's about their talent level too. Their record will reflect that.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi

There's a reason for that. They aren't that good.

Do you still think they'll go 13-3 after dropping the opener? That would mean they only lose 2 games the rest of the way. Looking at their schedule there's no way in hell that will happen.

In all honesty, the Titans looked like a .500 team with the way they played. That's about their talent level too. Their record will reflect that.

LOL............

There have been MANY teams the last decade (including the 2000 Titans) that dropped their opener and won at least 13 games. The opener is really not that important, unless it is a divisional game, but even then you still have 15 more games. Yes, I do think the Titans will go 13-3 still, I thought it was possible they would drop this one, although I truly thought they would win, I was not surprised when they lost. They should have won, we beat ourselves. In all honesty we should have won by 10 points.

Titans looked like a .500 team? What is wrong with you? I hope your not sports reporter.

Losing by three points in overtime...Going into the DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS and one of the best teams in the league over the last decades home and only losing because we beat ourselves--AND STILL the game went to OT---And we looked like a .500 team? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You saw a preview of the AFC Championship, but in January it will be in Tennessee, like it should have been last year---That is if the Steelers even make it that far. What you saw, and many would agree with you with (Even Chris Collinsworth) is the two BEST teams in the AFC, and the league. If that were a .500 team, like say THE PACKERS OR TEXANS--Pittsburgh would have won something like 35-14, so would have Tennessee.

Give me a break, you have crossed the line from reason to insanity in your comments on the game, Tennessee, and other NFL teams.

Nuff said....


PS: Tennessee will be 5-1 going into their bye.

ALSO: I bet I know why you are so obviously biased towards Tennessee---You prolly are still mad cause they left Houston!

[edit on 9/12/2009 by jkrog08]

Originally posted by jkrog08
Losing by three points in overtime...Going into the DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS

Ahh yes, I knew the "defending Super Bowl champions" excuse would come out when the Titans lost

See, before the game it's "The Titans have had the Steelers number over the last decade". But after the Titans lose it's "Losing by three points in overtime...Going into the DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS".

My how we flip flop and contradict ourselves.

I'm not exactly sure what you are seeing in the Titans that has convinced you that they are great, but I think it's safe to chalk it up to pure homerism. The facts will win out in the end, so when the Titans not only don't go 13-3 but also not go to the playoffs, don't be too upset, okay?

Originally posted by jkrog08
ALSO: I bet I know why you are so obviously biased towards Tennessee---You prolly are still mad cause they left Houston!

Considering I'm a Packers fan - as I have already mentioned - and I was nine years old when they left and never was an Oilers fan, I'm going to have to tell you that unfortunately this theory is wrong.

There is no bias between the Titans and I. I just see them for what they are: an average team at best.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi


Your right, we will see in the end. At worst Tennessee will go 12-4, but I do not see it. And yea, I did bring out the FACTS of the game--WE WERE at the defending champs, made a lot of mistakes, and still lost by three in OT. What contradiction do you see there?

It matters not, Tennessee will blast Houston next Sunday, in route to 5 straight before the bye. We will have two close ones, against Indy and NE--The rest will be cake walks. I wonder what will you say when Tennessee is 8-1 or 7-2 midway through the season?

Originally posted by jkrog08
At worst Tennessee will go 12-4

One word: Delusional.

Originally posted by jkrog08
What contradiction do you see there?

I explained it to you. Before the game, the Titans allegedly had the Steelers number. After the game, you make an excuse for the loss. I'm well aware of the fact that the Steelers are the defending champions. The problem is you never took that in to consideration before making your outrageous prediction.

Originally posted by jkrog08
I wonder what will you say when Tennessee is 8-1 or 7-2 midway through the season?

I'll say you should buy a lottery ticket.

The Titans will do very well this year. The Ravens are always there. NE will go deep again this year. Philly may take it all. Let's see the Vick factor.

Here's my one "out there" pick. Niners win the NFC West. Great off season pick ups shored up the O line and we picked up Dre Bly in the secondary. Add rookie RB Coffee that would start if it wasn't for Gore and a new system that focuses on the running game and they've got a pretty good team imo.

Originally posted by jkrog08
It matters not, Tennessee will blast Houston next Sunday

Hmmm...

Yeah. I rest my case...

0-2.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi


I guess we will just have to wait until the end of the season to see.

The next time we play Houston, that fluke of a game won't happen, good thing too, since it a night game.

so how am ii tracking this week?

reply to post by zazzafrazz

???

I did not know you made any picks?

reply to post by jkrog08


Ah yes, of course. When Tennessee loses it's a fluke, but when Tennessee wins it's because they're great.

It must be difficult to think of a new excuse every week.

Hey Bud Adams, put that in your pipe and smoke it What, should we have spotted you 21?

And what the hell is up with New Orleans, they really are like a video game?

An Dallas...........what a joke!

Peace



[edit on 21-9-2009 by Dr Love]

reply to post by jkrog08


0-3.

Here comes the 13 game winning streak!!! I can't wait, man!! It's going to be exciting, for sure!!

Speaking of bad teams, how 'bout them Lions? Getting a win in the regular season! Congrats!