To many people on ATS are outright disrespectful and inconciderate of others belief in God.

blasphemy
in order for you to know if you've commited blasphemy of the holy spirit you have to know what it is.....

If you'd like to know I'll tell you it's simple... Here it goes!
If you have spoken irreverently towards the:
"Holy Spirit (of GOD)"
where does the holy spirit come from? It comes from God!!!!!
It is God's Active Force.... HERE ON EARTH!
Active Force = something that is in progress!

what is in progress ? it is the establishment of Gods Character (as in Characteristics) her on earth and also his KINGDOM which has many mansions which he has prepared. every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess. Remember!!!
We as people love our brothers and sisters, we are all brothers and sisters.... You follow me!!!
The different ways that churches administer to people are all acceptable to GOD... christianity, judiasm, morman, jehovas witnesses, methodists, penticostle, baptist, nazarines, and so on etc... there are differences in administration (their policies) but the same ("LORD")..... and Diversities of Operations but it is the same ("GOD") that worketh all in all.....
These are GODS MANSIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE(" HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD") HIS ACTIVE FORCE HAS BUILT THEM ALL ("GODS MANSIONS") AND THEY ARE ALL PLEASING TO HIM.......
HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT ANY OF THEM!!!! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD WHICH FATHERS ALL CHURCHES AND RELIGIONS AND BUILT THEM ALL FOR THE (BETTERMENT) OF MANKIND.
BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT IS UNFORGIVIBLE AND IS OUTRIGHT DISRESPECT AGAINST GOD AND PEOPLE (HIS CHILDREN)
MAY THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD REACH EVERY CORNER OF THE EARTH AND ADMINISTER TO THE PEOPLE THROUGH WHATEVER OPERATION REACHES AND SAVES THEM FIRST.

I ask Where is your Hope at? What do you hope for? What cause do you support? What sacrifice have you made to better this world? Even if you knew for a fact 100% that people were wasting their time praying and Hoping and could prove it, would you show them the proof and destroy all they have hope for? or would you incourage it because you understand what its like to be hopeless and would never want someone to lose that hope? Would it make you happy to help someone that is all alone find hope in something even if it was different than what you believe or whatever you do to get through it all? If you truly have been hopeless or lost and confused and cannot find that inner peace because of lifes trials that have some how taken the joy out of everything, and you know that you can never believe in just one thing because you understand more than the average so what do you do next.

Thats a lonely place to be don't you think? Would it not bring you joy to help the Average people find hope in something and change their life forever along with the course of all mankind for the best to eliminate constant suffering...

Would you call that selflessness?

It would bring joy atleast, If there is a God, than at the end of your life you would have an added bonus for pleasing God and being a angel, Saint, good person, whatever title you want to call it, etc.

It's a win win situation isn't it?

Well good luck in this battle...I am Pagan so I do believe in a higher power...just not yours

To throw a good word in for Atheists let me say two things

1. There are too many disrespectful Christians on ATS who are disrespectful and inconsiderate of the ability and freedom to believe in no god (I'm serious...some of the folks on here who will remain nameless are sick and mean towards atheists who even ask simple and plain questions that don't work towards god's will

2. Atheists don't believe in any higher power. You think they have nothing positive to live for...let me challenge this politely and gently. I have more respect for a man who helps children, builds shelters and aids people on their own merit than I do of the same person who does it to please a deity. I'm not saying what Christians do is bad by any means when they help people. Making shelters and such is great no matter who you are doing it, I merely respect people further who do it for themselves rather than doing it for a god.

These people often live towards a purpose where they believe man and woman are the most important factors. They their lives to the fullest thinking nothing awaits them. Sounds like a damn good life to me. If they are right then when it's over they'll never know it

-Kyo

Originally posted by InTheBellyofTheBeast

HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT ANY OF THEM!!!! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD WHICH FATHERS ALL CHURCHES AND RELIGIONS AND BUILT THEM ALL FOR THE (BETTERMENT) OF MANKIND.

How dare you direspect people with different beliefs than you. Forget blashpemy....look at your ignornace

I ask Where is your Hope at? What do you hope for? What cause do you support? What sacrifice have you made to better this world? Even if you knew for a fact 100% that people were wasting their time praying and Hoping and could prove it, would you show them the proof and destroy all they have hope for? or would you incourage it because you understand what its like to be hopeless and would never want someone to lose that hope? Would it make you happy to help someone that is all alone find hope in something even if it was different than what you believe or whatever you do to get through it all? If you truly have been hopeless or lost and confused and cannot find that inner peace because of lifes trials that have some how taken the joy out of everything, and you know that you can never believe in just one thing because you understand more than the average so what do you do next.

Why do you care? Are you that self absorbed in your own beliefs that it upsets you that people will not take the same religious beliefs you have? Stop trying to convert people

Thats a lonely place to be don't you think? Would it not bring you joy to help the Average people find hope in something and change their life forever along with the course of all mankind for the best to eliminate constant suffering...

Would you call that selflessness?

It would bring joy atleast, If there is a God, than at the end of your life you would have an added bonus for pleasing God and being a angel, Saint, good person, whatever title you want to call it, etc.

It's a win win situation isn't it?

I dont believ in god and Im still full of happiness and joy. I have family, friends, pets and my job......they all provide me with what I need to be fulfilled in this life. If you need god, thats great....but do understand that we are not all like you, so get the bloody hell over it.

[edit on 6/8/2009 by OzWeatherman]

OK The OP has a great point. All i see on ATS and in here is athiest saying we are delusional fairy worshipping sky daddy dumb people.

S*** I seen 80 % atleast of athiest saying all christians, what 2 billion people world wide are all dumb. We all are controlled, we don't have a mind of our own, as if we didn't chose God and can't think for ourselves.

what they don't understand is that those 2 billion chose God from free will.


And so yea OP those Goofs are not worth the reply in those threads, let them find out after death how dumb we are. Those type do it because their defense mechanism doesn't want God to be real. If they were open to a God they wouldn't say that stuff.


Now they need prayers of course.



But the OP was sincere IMO..




I have more respect for a man who helps children, builds shelters and aids people on their own merit than I do of the same person who does it to please a deity
"
( kyozero )


The problem is Kyozero is that all love is grace, and those people do what god implanted in them, because if love was just a common sense freely given thing, no evil would exist, or heartless acts which happen daily, more than good.


And so the christian doesn't do it to please a diety as God didn't preach that, they do what athiest do, use the grace in their soul which is learned and infused by God, and attritbute it ALL to God.

and so if they get a reward, they say.

" I am unworhty of a reward "

every true saint talked like this.

and even Jesus said.

" Hypocrites who do acts for a gain "

Not the exact qoute, but what he meant was that if you do acts without chairty if profits nothing.



and so this is where the confusion comes in about what Christ taught and the preception of what good acts is all about.


Whereas and I seen this personally, athiest might have that hidden self love in them thinking how good they are, not all but some.


that self love is not immune in anybody. All people experience. Like always being liked the most, always wanting the audience focused on you.


s*** go to a party and see self love in action, it's everywhere.


and so everybody, athiest, christians are not void of that self love which is the hidden pride in the soul that God wipes out through communion.

a traditional latin mass.



But anyways OP, pray for these people, don't let anything they say sway you, because some fall through a confident speech and lose the faith.



God bless you OP!

Oz weather


" deny idiots "

How bout pray for idiots to convert and become as smart as you?



peace.

First, it is very doubtful people are posting a bunch of blasphemy. In order for someone to blasphemy the holy spirit, it means they must first know the holy spirit and thus the real truth and understanding of things. So just because someone says something which is untrue, or bad does not mean they are committing blasphemy, it just means they don't really know any better, and that they are poor in spirit. Poor in spirit = those who do not know the holy spirit. Rich in spirit = those who know the holy spirit, as that is what makes them "rich" - true wealth, wisdom and understanding, not gold and material.

2nd. You need to get thicker skin. I sure as heck don't want to live in a world where people are all worried about offending each other. You are looking towards a world of bondage, not freedom if you think the world needs to do such things. If you are offended, then you are the one in error. In order to have freedom it means giving it to others, especially when you disagree with them.

Actual disrespect would be when people want to make your opinion and such illegal. And then you are not doing unto others as you would like to be done to. And in the process you are denying the right to your own opinion, because in the process you are saying it is ok for 1 person to decide another. Big difference between that and someone saying you get offended by.

Trying to sell God on any other term than for that person to want and seek out such a relationship is a falsehood. You aren't trying to sell god to anyone, he doesn't need you for that. What you are trying to sell is a religion. And god doesn't need a religion. There are those who seek out truth and understanding, and those people will eventually find the father. Sometimes that journey is the point. But to have people settle on blindly believing in god because just because you think it a "win/win" situation is a falsehood.

You are not "saving" their souls, you are selling them. You tell them to quit seeking, to quit looking for their own personal understanding and that the win/win situation is fine to just "believe". If they don't believe then it is for a reason. And that reason needs to be worked out, otherwise they will never truly believe anyway.

Please stop putting in Religion as a replacement for god.

Originally posted by JesusisTruth


Oz weather


" deny idiots "

How bout pray for idiots to convert and become as smart as you?



peace.

I dont pray for a start.....in my belief system we dont pray

And I dont want anyone to convert to what I believe in, because unlike some I judge people on their character rather than there religious beliefs. If someone want to follow a certain religion, then good for them....if they want to become atheist like me, then good for them, it doesnt change who they are.

And yes there are atheists that criticise god following people, but it also goes the other way(religious people criticising atheists)......both groups in my opinion are "idiots'

JIT...we ...you and I...have been through this dance many times...you can't tell me the grace inside me is from your God...you don't have the concrete proof

You are Christian and as such you are heavily believing in what you are is the only right way. I respect that...but frankly I am tired of beating around the proverbial bush...or the burning one in this case so let me ask you point blank..

Do you think we should pass a law saying we have to practice Christianity or nothing?

He makes valid points because you think they are valid...I got news for you...it isn't valid to some so you may need to get past that. The other poster is quite correct...some of you people have GOT to get a thicker skin

It seems as if some Christians here want to yell 'oppression' if an Atheist tells you that you are delusional...yet when you say the same things back at an Atheist it's ok...because it's Christian...that is total BS

Why oh WHY can't you just realize that they don't think your way and are going to sometimes insult your god and just get over it and be the bigger men and women?

Let's pretend for a moment that you are right...God is real and God is all...I start a thread saying God is a (censored) or whatever...

who does that hurt? Does it hurt you? No
Does it harm someone who was turned to Atheism because of those comments? Yes...but whose fault is that? The Atheist or the fool that followed the Atheist?
Does it harm the Atheist if he is wrong? Yes...but why is that your concern...you NOR your god owns this body or soul so say your words and if you get turned down then move on and grow up.

Just my thoughts

-Kyo

OP, you already posted this exact same post in another thread- you can read my reply there

www.belowtopsecret.com...

Originally posted by lifecitizen
OP, you already posted this exact same post in another thread- you can read my reply there

www.belowtopsecret.com...

lol, actually he's been posting it all over, not to mention this is the 2nd time he's opened this exact thread, just with a new title.

You'll probably be running into it a few more times unless the mods snip them.

Well good sir, we must forgive and forget. Remember OP, no one is blameless. We all make mistakes and sometimes say things we don't mean. We all lose our path from time to time. We all sin. Forgive and forget and love thy neighbor as you love yourself. Even if they don't believe in Elohim or more easily known as, Jesus Christ. Take it, forgive, and move on. Love is key. God Bless!!!

Originally posted by badmedia

Originally posted by lifecitizen
OP, you already posted this exact same post in another thread- you can read my reply there

www.belowtopsecret.com...

lol, actually he's been posting it all over, not to mention this is the 2nd time he's opened this exact thread, just with a new title.

You'll probably be running into it a few more times unless the mods snip them.

Yep, came across it again so that makes it 3 times in 3 different threads

reply to post by InTheBellyofTheBeast


Hi, I'm late again.

I 100% agree that too many people are outright disrespectful and inconsiderate of others belief in EVERYTHING.

My statement stops short of identifying any belief in particular because that would be dissrespectful and inconsiderate.