Crop Cirles - PROOF of A Hoax With a Mission - The NWO!

Another crop circle thread to comment on, yay. Let me get this straight - you're a highly evolved race with interstellar/interdimensional capabilities, your IQ is immeasurable, you've been visiting a planet with semi-intelligent life for some time now and you decide you want to communicate with them. So what do you do? You flatten their cash crops into patterns and diagrams and make them figure out what they mean? Gotcha. If that is even remotely true, then I bet the alien equivalent of Ashton Kutcher is somehow involved.

I'm in the hoax camp all the way. I don't know who is doing them, but they are human.

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reply to post by AwakeinNM


Well, actually, if aliens were leaving messages, I could possibly believe that they would make them cryptic enough to the point where if we could figure them out, perhaps we would be ready to join the larger galactic community at large, at least in their eyes. So that wouldn't be completely unbelievable imo.

However, I have high doubts they'd do so with crop circles. I'd expect them to send radio or light signals or something else, that they would know our scientists and such would actually look at. I also think they'd spread them wider than one small community repeatedly.

The other problem with it is that the supposedly "translated" messages always seem to be dire warnings. Look, if an alien lifeform decided to help us, why would they make puzzling crop circles? If they were being decent enough to actually aid us in a time of need, a more direct approach would make sense. Not "Omg.. something terrible is going to happen! Here.. we'll help by scribbling cryptic messages around in crops in a small town and hope you all figure it out in time *snicker*"

Originally posted by fleabit
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

Well, actually, if aliens were leaving messages, I could possibly believe that they would make them cryptic enough to the point where if we could figure them out, perhaps we would be ready to join the larger galactic community at large, at least in their eyes. So that wouldn't be completely unbelievable imo.

However, I have high doubts they'd do so with crop circles. I'd expect them to send radio or light signals or something else, that they would know our scientists and such would actually look at. I also think they'd spread them wider than one small community repeatedly.

The other problem with it is that the supposedly "translated" messages always seem to be dire warnings. Look, if an alien lifeform decided to help us, why would they make puzzling crop circles? If they were being decent enough to actually aid us in a time of need, a more direct approach would make sense. Not "Omg.. something terrible is going to happen! Here.. we'll help by scribbling cryptic messages around in crops in a small town and hope you all figure it out in time *snicker*"

Agreement there. Don't we have more efficient media they could use than corn and wheat? I think they could figure out video pretty handily.

reply to post by theprofessionalnyc


The 1670 crop circle was most likely a hoax. If you research the topic you will find that the story goes something like this:

A farmer has a worker who wants a raise and he will not give it to him so the worker quits and one of them say somthing about they wont change their minds until the devil comes back or something to that affect.

So I would say it was either the farmer, the worker, or someone who was privy to the conversation either trying to get a little negotiation leverage or trying to pull a fast one.

Originally posted by kenton1234
All one has to do is 'FOLLOW THE MONEY'. The local pubs have never been busier, Restaurants are full, hotels are full, everyone is selling crop circle calendars and other crop circle knick-knacks. There are tour bus rides, heliocopter rides even the farmers are driving brand new vehicles. These things are not made at night they are made during the day. While everyone is 'PAYING' to go see the latest crop pattern the people who make them are a couple of hills over making the next one. And at night while all those people are on stake-out waiting for the U.F.O.'s to make the next one the locals laugh and count all the money they just made from the gullible people that think space based microwaves or aliens made these.

This explanation sold me on the all crop cricles are man made theory. Plus in another recent thread someone posted a link to a "how we make crop circles.com" website.

www.circlemakers.org...

May someone please provide smoking gun evidence right now that ET's create crop circles, because all this crop circle nonsense is hogwash.

reply to post by AwakeinNM


Why do they have to be always be aliens from another planet? Couldn't they be from this planet. Can we all agree that the human soul does exist and passes on to another dimension after death? Some would also argue that the human souls intellect is immeasurable.

Why couldn't these "aliens" origin be from Earth? Why do they always have to be from the planet Vulcan or something? Wouldn't it be possible for a human soul to make such crop circles? Which is what I think these orbs are.

reply to post by Zeus2573


Well if you could provide some evidence that humans actually have souls then that would be a starting point. Then you would have to show how these spiritual souls could affect the material world.

But why would a human soul hang out in England making crop circles?

Ok 2 things going forward.
1. I wish I wouldnt have stated that all crop circles are man made in this thread because it is getting everyone off track. I do believe they are all man made, but it is just my opinion.

2. I wish I wouldnt have used the word Proof. But sometimes you have to market a thread if you know what I mean.

Continue on!

reply to post by game over man


Thanks for the web link.

I checked out the crop circles these people made, like the "shredded wheat" one and the "question mark" one. In comparison to the more elaborate ones being made to today, these crop circles are a joke. IMHO.

The solution is simple, if some claim that these complex crop circles are being made by humans with a board and a rope, video tape it. I'm not referring to these sloppy crop circles that looks like some Joe Schmo off the street made.

All of the legit geometrically perfect crop circles that I have seen on video shows these orbs making them.

reply to post by Zeus2573
"All of the legit geometrically perfect crop circles that I have seen on video shows these orbs making them."

Please post the VIDEOS that show orbs making these "legit geometrically perfect" patterns.

reply to post by grapesofraft


Of course there would be no way to prove that the human soul exists. I believe it does. On that same note, there would be no way to prove that people do actually sell their soul to live well in this world. No denying that one.

As far as why they would be hanging out in England..............that's a good question. Rest assured we'll have the answer someday.

I alluded to this in a thread that proved a crop circle to be man made, (www.abovetopsecret.com...).

When i read that billionaire David Rockefeller spent money into "researching" crop circles, well you basically have everything you need. You give money to a hand full of people to go out and create these crop circles, cause i for one wouldn't go out and do it for pleasure.

This theory is very plausible, and could just be a piece of the puzzle for the Elites false flag alien invasion. I for one will look at crop circles in a new scope no matter how beautiful they are.

reply to post by kenton1234


I've never been real savvy on posting youtube links. I'm sure you can go to youtube and see them for yourself. That's where I have seen them. I can tell you what I haven't seen, people out in a field actually making "geometrically perfect" crop circles with a board and a rope. Can you show me one?

It's not my intention to start a big fuss about these crop circles. I'm just simply giving my take on it. If you don't agree, that's fine.

I thought we were having a friendly discussion about crop circles.



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Originally posted by Zeus2573
reply to post by AwakeinNM

 

Why do they have to be always be aliens from another planet? Couldn't they be from this planet. Can we all agree that the human soul does exist and passes on to another dimension after death? Some would also argue that the human souls intellect is immeasurable.

Why couldn't these "aliens" origin be from Earth? Why do they always have to be from the planet Vulcan or something? Wouldn't it be possible for a human soul to make such crop circles? Which is what I think these orbs are.

COULD WE GET ANYMORE OFF TOPIC?

Crop Cricle topics that have Alien or MIB sightings usually have some credence to being ET in origin.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is usually said that most UFO sightings are fake or hoaxed, but 1% are actually completely unknown.

Are there any crop circle cases that are completely unexplained?

I'm sorry, to me it seems like a ploy on gullable tourists...

reply to post by game over man


What do mean? The topic is crop circles and what do I see in my post ah yes, there it is the word CROP CIRCLES.

Here's a nickels worth of free advice, leave the judgment call to the mods. You obviously aren't qualified. If the mods feel I'm being off topic I'll go with it.

Don't make this personal..........it just isn't worth it.

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reply to post by Zeus2573


I just dont understand your logic. Why do you have to attribute crop circles to aliens or souls when a group of guys could easily create any of these things. It just seems wrong to me to start attributing everything you dont understand to some crazy force or extraterrestrials. Next thing you will be saying electric is created by aliens or souls and a lightbulb is a soul container.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by warpath1984

 

Thanks for the reply. That is possible, but highly unlikely. What benefit would there be for the military to have the means to create crop cirlces?

3X benefits actually = POWER - CONTROL and GREED need I say more.

In order to instill so much fear that everyone gives up their rights, what better way than to create marvellous geometric designs in order to fool people that they are made by beings that wish us harm. Watch this space.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Zeus2573

 

a group of guys could easily create any of these things. It just seems wrong to me to start attributing everything you dont understand to some crazy force

Do you honestly think a group of 'guys' could make a HUGE 3D crop circle without help from above (helicopter) without being noticed? come on.............plsssssssssssssssss

reply to post by grapesofraft


With all due respect to you, my logic and your logic could both be equally scrutinized. I'm not saying humans couldn't make crop circles. I'm just saying that not all of them are in my opinion. I don't deny that some are man made. Some certainly are.

I think something is going on with these crop circles that isn't even close to being understood. The natural thing for any human being to do would be to rationalize by saying they are man made. Most people would, and wouldn't be wrong in doing so. I'm just not one of those people.

Let me clarify. I don't believe these "orbs" to be aliens from another planet. I never said that.

The comment you made about the souls creating electricity, and being trapped inside a light bulb................that's hitting below the belt. My take on these "orbs" goes much deeper than that. But, we won't get into that, I don't want to be off topic.

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reply to post by franspeakfree


Well I think they could do it. It just takes planning. But they probably dont have to do it that way. If what the OP of this thread is saying is correct then they could be doing it with whatever help they need as they would have access to whatever the Rockefellers have access to.