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I am NOT anti-Obama

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posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Alright I am down right fed up with being called someone who is Anti-Obama as an explanation of why I don’t agree with the current administrations policies. Now according to MSM and a majority of the public's opinion I either don’t like democrats, or I don’t like blacks, or I don’t like (place noun here), and that explains all my woes.

Well guess what? I was just as Anti Bush as I am anti Obama, all you democrats seem to think if you don’t agree with Obama that means you were a big Bush supporter and your scorned because your team is out of office.

NEWS FLASH I hated bush, still do, always will, the guy drove this country into the ground, and now Obama is hammering the nails into the coffin.

I spent 5 years (didn’t care for his first 3 I was asleep) spreading the message about Bush; how he suspended Habeas Corpus, Posse Comitatus, and placed us into to unconstitutional illegal war’s that we never would have had anything to take part in, if it wasn’t for a false flag act aimed at swaying public opinion.

I was never a democrat, but you can bet I was lumped in with the rest of you, I can’t remember how many family members and friends who told me it was all anti-bush rhetoric or media spin, while keeping there eyes closed to the evidence and refusing to form an opinion of there own (rather then repeating opinions they’ve heard), while condemning me as an extreme leftist.

So yes, now that the G.O.P. members are out of power and willing to look at the evidence provided (since it doesn’t hurt there ego’s any longer) they are starting to see the big picture, (something they wouldn’t look at while they were running the show).

Something is terribly wrong in America, and no its not all Obama's fault, we have been on this road for quite sometime, unfortunately Bush passed all the laws needed to completely end America as we know it, could he use the powers he granted himself? Nope because that would create a very bad public imagine (wait worse then his already was? Is that possible?
) and there could be mass rioting inevitably ending very poorly.

Could the president who succeeds him get away with it though? Well more then likely, and guess what, it didn’t matter who it was, if McCain was president, I would be on here telling you all the things that are wrong with McCain and his administrations policies, while being labeled a democrat, but he didn’t win Obama did, so now that I am on here telling you what I disagree with about the Obama administration and of course I am being labeled a Republican or right wing extremist.

IM NOT!!!!! I am a Libertarian, mock me all you want, tell me I support a crazy group that’s fine, but don’t call me a Democrat, don’t call me a Republican, and don’t bunch everyone who disagrees with this administration into the anti-Obama group, cause really we’re anti-the-way-things-are (some aren't), and it doesn’t matter which puppet is in control when the show runs as it does now.

Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts.


[edit on 8/3/2009 by Alaskan Man]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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You'll get no derision from me. I have been called just about everything under the sun here. Remember, don't take it personally. The only people who do are the name-callers, and their more interested in marginalizing your opinion than any intelligent discourse about anything they have already accepted as axiomatic.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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oops - double post

[edit on 3-8-2009 by Maxmars]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:57 PM
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You're alright, lasky.

But...if you don't agree with someone, doesn't that make you 'anti-them?'


Although Obama doesn't seem to have been doing a lot to END the atrocities started by others, it doesn't really make it his fault...I don't know that I would do anything different in there..would you?

Do you think he's scared of all the people that are REALLY in charge? I read somewhere that the president is always just the fall guy. Someone everyone can rally together against, keeping us distracted from what's really going on.

It would be pretty silly to think that one man could actually make of a difference anyway.

I feel sort of disappointed that I don't have any faith in people any more.

Does that make me 'anti-human?' (I like some of them, detest others...)

I don't agree with what is going on, but like, you, I'm not really 'anti-Obama.' Just 'anti-all this stuff that is screwed up, no matter who's name you plaster on it.'

Who's 'spittin' on your bus,' ak-sapien?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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It totally cracks me up when people get behind their keyboards and spout off. I have no political affiliation whatsoever. My political philosophy is common sense. Since there obviously is no existing "common sense party", I am all alone out here.


Regardless, my personal views span the vast territory of political ideologies. Pidgeon holes are for narrow minds. Slinging insults may make the poster feel superior, yet I sit here behind my keyboard laughing my head off at their lame parrotting.

Thanks OP, for sharing your thoughts. I have bestowed one flag and one star upon you for your valiant effort.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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I'm a Libetarian, and not the fake kind you see in the news.

There is nobody to represent me or my bretheren, so we represent ourselves. I dislike anybody who is in the "Lame Duck" government as I call it.

And by that I mean every member of the government low and high in the established nations. All a bunch of crooks.

The good ones end up being crooks since they can't get ahead without playing by their rules.

To hell with these anti-obama labels, it could be anybody else there. Hell they could have elected Carlos Mencia and you all would still be in the same situation.

The only difference would be that there would be no laughing.

~Keeper



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:14 PM
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I voted for Obama!!

I have said it over and over. I am registered Republican, but as I see it, we were screwed either way, and I hoped BO would buy me a little time to make survival preparations!!

When I question or criticize policies and motivations, I have been called all the typical names by the pro-Obama crowd, and it is senseless! There is no logic involved in labeling your opposition by some stereo-type. This a baseless, logic-less, abusive tactic used when all credible arguments fail.

Honestly, I have been called just as much ridiculous stuff by the anti-Obama crowd!! I have not been "awakened" or "enlightened" and my opinion of BO has not changed in the slightest! I knew what I was voting for when I did it, and I got what I expected, and I still feel free to criticize our POTUS and Congress as much as they deserve (which is a lot)!!

It is pretty frustrating, but I take solace knowing when TSHTF, they will be coming to me for advice or aid, and I will be in the catbirdseat!!



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:25 PM
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When Bush was in office, they called me a liberal.
When Obama is in office, they call me a conservative.

When Bush was in office, liberal was the dirty name.
When Obama is in office, conservative is the dirty name.

When Bush was in office, liberals loved me, conservatives hated me.
When Obama is in office, conservatives love me, and liberals hate me.

Personally, I think they are full time ignorant and dualistic.



[edit on 8/3/2009 by badmedia]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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I am just anti-authority overall.

I dislike all forms of egotistic maniacs whom think they own me.

Therefore all governments are failures.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:30 PM
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Exactly...



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by KSPigpen
You're alright, lasky.

But...if you don't agree with someone, doesn't that make you 'anti-them?'





I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm on both sides and none at the same time. When they do the right thing it's to be expected. But they don't get praise. It was their JOB to do the right thing.

When they do the wrong thing which is about 95% of the time it just shows how little they actually care about Joe Taxpayer.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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You're not Anti-Obama?

Why not?

Don't you know anything about him?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Careful Slayer, You might create another Joe The Plumber, you know it only takes one comment to be a celebrity now
.

~Keeper



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Bob Sixpack?

Edit to add multiple lines.

So far the things Obama has going in his favor IMO

BEER Summit.

Not being so wishy washy with Israel
and...

Wait for it...

checking out the chick in the pink dress.



[edit on 3-8-2009 by SLAYER69]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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I was anti-Bush and pro-Obama. I still like Obama more than Bush but I have adopted a wait and see stance on Obama at this time. I think it is still too early to judge him.

If things go wrong from here do you blame Obama or Congress? I am leaning towards Congress. There have been several attempts by Obama to level the playing field for the people and Congress has for the most part shut the door on them. One is the Credit Card protection bill. I would like to think that Obama would have wanted immediate action whereas Congress pushed it back to next Jan giving them time to do the damage the bill was suppose to protect us from. Obama tried to allow mortgages to be modified in bankruptcy. Congress shot it down. These are things Bush wouldn't even ponder for a minute. I see a big difference between the two. At least Obama has tried to do some positive things.

Every time Obama tries to put forth his agenda he is forced to compromise with Congress in order to get any sembelance of his wishes pushed through. Congress is the real culrit here. It is not about Democrat or Republican. It is about congress being captive by big money interests. I can't help but think that Obama is setting them all up for the big fail. If he doesn't, then one can only to come to the conclusion that he is a failure as well, although not necessarily by his own hand.

Only solution is to create a revolving door in Congress. If you vote for ANY incumbent, then you only have yourselves to blame down the road. If we want change, we need to change Congress. Everything else is liking peeing into the wind.



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 03:49 PM
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If I am anti-black because I do not support Obama, does that mean I am anti-white as well, since he is . . . you know . . . a mixed breed?



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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I am NOT anti-Obama


No problem. I am neither anti-Obama or a bigot but I didn't vote for him (or McCain, for that matter).

Since around the year 2000, I have been called a communist, a nazi, a bigot, a racist and all because I didn't agree with someone's politics. It doesn't matter whether you really are or are not one of those names. It all has to do with labeling you for others to see. Once you have become tagged... call it the Scarlet Letter of partisan politics, others who think alike with your labler will be able to quickly identify you as the enemy.

It's all standard stuff for the the political gladiator types and it doesn't matter which party because they all do it. Obama's mob labeled everyone a racist who questioned his politics... just like everyone who disagreed with Bush were tagged as commies and terrorists.

Don't fret about it. Words are still pretty cheap and most anyone can afford to throw some nasty ones at you. They don't really hurt unless you let them.

Just consider the source. Politics sucks... and so do those mindless gladiator-types who couldn't get a real life.

Cheers


...



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Alaskan Man
I am NOT anti-Obama


I am.


Mod Edit - Mod Note: One Line Post – Please Review This Link.


[edit on 3-8-2009 by elevatedone]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:33 PM
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As of now, I cannot believe that everyone isn't plain ol' Anti-government. Clearly no candidate from a major party is going to ever represent the USA in a favorable light or do anything substantial for it's people.

Until the entire system breaks down and starts over as something honest, controlled by the people, we are basically screwed. Face the facts. If a politician can afford to be elected into office, they are absolutely not going to represent the working people of this country. No good will come out of any of them. That became blatantly obvious during the past decade. Clinton was a wuss, Bush a greedy psychopath and Obama, well... (let's just say I don't want to end up on a 'special' list anywhere').

If there is such a thing as a good politician (not sure on that but I still hold hope for Ron Paul & Ralph Nader), they aren't going to come to power any time soon. If they did, then we'd be faced with how they handle that power. This country has been corrupt for a good portion of most of our lifetimes. A sad fact as far as I'm concerned.

[edit on 3-8-2009 by jackieps1975]



posted on Aug, 3 2009 @ 05:37 PM
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It is Bush's fault because it happened on his watch and he denied the economyy was crashing.

But it isn't completely his fault, the banks should of never been deregulated. And I believe that was a bipartisan idea.


What boggles my mind, and this maybe where the conspiracy is, is how could they not see the funny(and I don't mean haha) mortgages that were being handed out like free t-shirts, and insane housing boom that could not possibly sustain itself, not be a huge problem in the future??????



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