Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

I have come to the conclusion that there are MANY out there who do not want the truth to come out..
I have been to many sites today, where ppl on forums are making fake Obama BC, using saved photos from sites that have posted Taitz's "Original" ...
www.democraticunderground.com is just one of many...
Bottom line..The truth will eventually come out...

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by HunkaHunka

 

Oh, so GLDNGUN lied about the layers

I trust him more than you

It didn't show any evidence for it.. that's for sure. I've been uploading screen shots of everything... what has he uploaded? no evidence.. .just cheerleading.


Not to mention.. JPEGS DON"T SUPPORT LAYERS....

You were duped.

Now the question is why did GLDNGUN tell you that? Did he hear it from someone else and was duped himself? Or was he actually trying to dig the hole deeper for the birthers?

I'd be very suspicious of anyone with crazy claims trying to bring down Obama, as it can backfire real easy if found to be a complete forgery like this one.

Spend more time seeking truth as much as possible, and less time supporting your side.


I guess you will probably think twice before trusting him again, won't ya?

[edit on 4-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]

That's what I always say with this nonsense about the Clinton's. Bill is a former president and would have lots of access to information and can probably get it easily. Bill really wanted Hillary to win I think so he would have used this for sure but they didn't. I read recently even John McCain's camp looked into it and didn't find anything. I'm sure Sarah Palin would have used it too.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


Trust no one Go look for yourself in wiki. Jpeg's don't support layers. That's not a disbutable issue, it's a fact. There's plenty of other sources as well.
Also remember to check the function of the divide action that was used. That can be verified from many sites also. It creates these layers. That's another fact.

Originally posted by MissysWorld
I have come to the conclusion that there are MANY out there who do not want the truth to come out..
I have been to many sites today, where ppl on forums are making fake Obama BC, using saved photos from sites that have posted Taitz's "Original" ...
www.democraticunderground.com is just one of many...
Bottom line..The truth will eventually come out...

LOL the truth? The truth is people are a bunch of racist fools they can't stand the fact a half black man is president.

Originally posted by Disinfo Agent

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by Disinfo Agent

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Actually, it had the same Book and file number as well. These are unique to each document. So yes, Bomfords *was* the template.

Please read the first two links in my sig if you need more info on this.

Ah, true! That's pretty impressive then given that the Bomford document had the top cut off.

Photoshop's a wonderful thing, I guess!

Even though the top was cut off, it still showed the same book and file number, which was not cut off.

Once again... no Photoshop.

What do you mean "no Photoshop?" It was clearly photoshopped (or GIMPed or Paintshopped or whatever) to change the coat of arms, add different info, etc.

This is what I mean...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/f871e709bdfd7028.png[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/1dbe7bab7d34e980.png[/atsimg]





You see the first one? That's in a file that was SCANNED in... you can tell by running strings on the actual file.

Now you see how the one from australia is all ZOOMED IN etc... because it was SCANNED.

Now you see how the kenyan one is far away from the lense? Because it was not Scanned, it was photographed.

do some actual digital forensics man.... I've posted all the evidence here and how to do it...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/22bfd45a4519e570.png[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/67793198dd919934.png[/atsimg]

[edit on 4-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]

reply to post by neformore


She was originally a Dentist in Orange County CA

www.drtaitz.com...

also a Real Estate agent and Lawyer.

Russian Born, Alan Keyes ( a nut-job in his own right) is one of her "clients", She takes donations and sells advertising on her sites.

She originally registered the site Obamanotqualified in Nov 2008

Purely IMO her career paths..cosmetic dentist in CA, real estate and Lawyer...I would say she is not so much a traditional ideolouge or propagandist, but rather an entrepenuer capitilizing on the "birther" movement. Just a guess and my opinion.

orlytaitzesq.com...

Edit to add: Here is some explanation by her that some some of the donations to her site were missappropriated?

www.alipac.us...



[edit on 4-8-2009 by maybereal11]

Originally posted by PsykoOps
reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

 

Trust no one

Go look for yourself in wiki. Jpeg's don't support layers. That's not a disbutable issue, it's a fact. There's plenty of other sources as well.
Also remember to check the function of the divide action that was used. That can be verified from many sites also. It creates these layers. That's another fact.

LOL! Now that is hilarious....


Mod Note: One Line Post – Please Review This Link.



[edit on 5-8-2009 by Gemwolf]

Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by theWCH

 

Even more of a compelling reason to find out where the money and motive is coming from?

Either way round, people are just looking at the puppet. We need to be looking at the man behind the curtain, because (forgive me) we're not in Kansas any more with this one.

I agree completely. And taking my previous post a step further...

There are two possibilities:

1. Obama is not a native-born American citizen.
2. Obama is a native-born American citizen.

If the first is true, then he probably wants this whole thing to go away as quickly as possibly.

If the second is true, and it can be proven, then he probably wants it to get HUGE. Like, Congressional Hearings huge. Picture this: the Republican party takes back majority control of Congress in a year and a half, they make a big fuss over this, thinking that they can get Obama booted, and then Obama proves his citizenship. The Republican party would be destroyed. Obama could do lines of coc aine off of a prostitutes bosom during the State of the Union Address and he'd still be re-elected. There would be a Democratic majority for decades.

So, if Obama is a citizen, then it would make a whole lot of sense for him to use us conspiracy theorists as pawns and try to make this topic go uber-viral.


[edit on 4-8-2009 by theWCH]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by Disinfo Agent

Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by Disinfo Agent

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Actually, it had the same Book and file number as well. These are unique to each document. So yes, Bomfords *was* the template.

Please read the first two links in my sig if you need more info on this.

Ah, true! That's pretty impressive then given that the Bomford document had the top cut off.

Photoshop's a wonderful thing, I guess!

Even though the top was cut off, it still showed the same book and file number, which was not cut off.

Once again... no Photoshop.

What do you mean "no Photoshop?" It was clearly photoshopped (or GIMPed or Paintshopped or whatever) to change the coat of arms, add different info, etc.

This is what I mean...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/f871e709bdfd7028.png[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/1dbe7bab7d34e980.png[/atsimg]


You see the first one? That's in a file that was SCANNED in... you can tell by running strings on the actual file.

Now you see how the one from australia is all ZOOMED IN etc... because it was SCANNED.

Now you see how the kenyan one is far away from the lense? Because it was not Scanned, it was photographed.

do some actual digital forensics man.... I've posted all the evidence here and how to do it... now actually do something.

You are living up to your avatars name...

[edit on 4-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]

I realize that, I'm not disagreeing with you... I just don't see how "no photoshop" comes into it. I'm assuming that someone got the scanned Aussie certificate, photoshopped it (to insert Obama's info, proper place names, complete the cut-off top, etc), printed out the result, and then took a picture of it. Do you not think that's how it was done?

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Disinfo Agent]

Originally posted by MissysWorld
www.democraticunderground.com

The DUmp is an extreme left wing echo chamber that most sane democrats are embarrassed by. Those are the whackjobs that decided to, among other moronic things, put 'retarded' baby trig up for sale during the election. They are completely and totally insane.

Originally posted by LittlePinky82
The truth is people are a bunch of racist fools they can't stand the fact a half black man is president.

The truth is this .. those that play the 'race card' when it comes to Obama are devoid of any thought process whatsoever. Get real. HE is the one that hung out at an anti-white black liberation theology cult for 20 years.

Originally posted by phoenix103
Have people really got nothing better to do than talk so much about a forged document.

It's a criminal conspiracy and this is a conspiracy discussion site.
Who forged the document? Why exactly?
Personal gain? Political motives? Both?
THAT is why it's being discussed.



[edit on 8/4/2009 by FlyersFan]

reply to post by Disinfo Agent


See I'm not sure...


I think that as little was cut out of the original as possible so as to leave very little tracks to determine it as a forgery.


However, then it was actually reprinted, folded, and photographed. The fact the original Australian BC was actually scanned gave them a great place to start from.

That's my guess... but who knows how it was actually forged.

If I was going to forge something, I'd do it using no currently known tech... old fashioned style to avoid any real detection.

[edit on 4-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]

Ok i think i'll post here although u have at least 126 topics about this..What if Obama wasnt born in the US? In every country u have different rules, in France u are French if u are accidentally born there (while your parents passing through ) In other countries it depends were your father or mother was born..So far this man does't look like some antichrist and is trying to recover your country from the mess Bush left behind..His methods might look socialistic but are quiet common in Europe..What if i tell you JFK was born in Dublin? would that make any difference now?Oh and a constitution could well adapt with the 'zeitgeist'...

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Foppezao]

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Disinfo Agent

 

See I'm not sure...


I think that as little was cut out of the original as possible so as to leave very little tracks to determine it as a forgery.


However, then it was actually reprinted, folded, and photographed.

That's my guess... but who knows how it was actually forged.

If I was going to forge something, I'd do it using no currently known tech... old fashioned style to avoid any real detection.

Yeah. There is a long history of faking or editing photos for political gain, and it goes back long before Photoshop...



[edit on 4-8-2009 by Disinfo Agent]

Originally posted by Disinfo Agent

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Disinfo Agent

 

See I'm not sure...


I think that as little was cut out of the original as possible so as to leave very little tracks to determine it as a forgery.


However, then it was actually reprinted, folded, and photographed.

That's my guess... but who knows how it was actually forged.

If I was going to forge something, I'd do it using no currently known tech... old fashioned style to avoid any real detection.

Yeah. There is a long history of faking or editing photos for political gain, and it goes back long before Photoshop...



[edit on 4-8-2009 by Disinfo Agent]

I was just thinking about that . I believe Stalin already 'photoshoped' Trotski gone from a picture in like the 30's or 40's after getting rid of him.

Media Blackout on Obama eligibility dates back to November

This article is in todays Canada Free Press:

Present at this meeting, she verified that the network official issued “warnings” to the personalities “to avoid any on-air discussion of the birth place, eligibility, and news accounts of litigation compelling [Barack Hussein] Obama to produce a legitimate copy of his birth certificate.” She stated that the network executive had her arrange the conference immediately following a meeting “between [the network executive] and an attorney closely associated with candidate Obama who was acting on his behalf.”

The statement of a corporate secretary for a major news network confirming the existence of a one-page inter-office memo, bearing the markings “confidential” and “not for dissemination,” addressed and distributed to news anchors and on-air talent” that specifically instructed the recipients to avoid any discussion pertaining to the Obama birth certificate controversy. The memo was written and distributed in October 2008, and specifically instructed on-air talent to “advise guests, as necessary, to refrain from citing any news story, legal proceedings, Internet ‘blogs’ or other sources that pertain to the ongoing eligibility controversy of future President Barack Obama.”

canadafreepress.com...

The truth will set you free....

reply to post by MissysWorld


So Keith spending about 10 minutes about this last night... that's a media blackout?

Originally posted by phoenix103

 

 

Apparently this was off topic. Nuts to the lame moderation, ta for the stars from those with a clue!

reply to post by MissysWorld


Yep... we can already see how these forged Kenyan docs have made the anti-obama crowd who supported it look like complete fools.

I think that's part of the game here.

Seed a fringe group known as Birthers, knowing you will get the fringe from the anti-obama party to jump on the bandwagon...

and then plant a forgery that is good enough to get in the news cycle but lame enough to make those who supported it look like fools who are just cheerleaders.


No one will ever listen to another thing from Taitz or the "Birthers".


And I think these news execs were aware that this could happen and were trying to keep it out of the media because it would make Obama that much stronger in the end when the bandwagoneers are exposed for what they are... not interested in truth.. just anti-obama.

This is why the real conservative movement never gave any creedence to this...

Good call on their part...

[edit on 4-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]