Photo - Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate (political fraud)

Originally posted by MissysWorld
Here is a copy of the Kenya BC:
www.orlytaitzesq.com...
(BTW I had no problems getting on the above site)
Here is the ORIGINAL Kenya BC:
thesteadydrip.blogspot.com...

Just in case anyone is asking..again...

Yes, they both look identical, even the age spot...

IF it's a fake, the forgerer may have used the following document as his template:

www.bomford.net...

Apparently it ss a scanned image of a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth” dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family; however, David Jeffrey Bomford wasn’t born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia.

A closer look reveals more disturbing info.

The names of the registrar and the district registrar are nearly the same names used in the Kenya certificate except for the first initials, (G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford BC vs. E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya BC).

Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) are the same on both BCs.

If this Bomford certificate is the real deal, then I'll be the first to admit that the Kenya BC is very likely fake and that whomever forged it used the Bomford certificate for their template.

[edit on 3-8-2009 by WMCOOPER]

reply to post by netwarrior


When I go to steadydrip's site and use my Control and (+) keys to enlarge, I can clearly see K.F. Lavender and not so clearly see the "tail" on the 6 in 47,644

The 6 looks, under enlargement almost exactly like the 6 in the "61" previously in the linke where it notes 1961

reply to post by netwarrior


I edited my last post while you were responding.

Is the copy you had from before all the mock ones started coming out? I saved the copy from steadydrip and that looks like K. F. when you zoom in on it a tad. I'll try to upload a pic of what I'm seeing. Might be easier than saying to just zoom it a tad.


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[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ec9c7b2e36cb.jpg[/atsimg]

That sure looks like K. F. Lavonder to me, not E. F. Lavender. The only thing I did to the image was increase it to twice it's original size in paint and added the red circle.

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[edit on 3-8-2009 by Jenna]

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Wow.... Maybe this puts this one to bed.

second line

reply to post by GLDNGUN


That did it -- fake.

www.bomford.net...
/worcestershire
/images
/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg

Good catch.

If we learned anything, we learned Obama needs to release his original birth certificate so this doesn't happen again.

Originally posted by WMCOOPER
reply to post by GLDNGUN

 

That did it -- fake.

www.bomford.net...
/worcestershire
/images
/DavidJeffreyBomfordBirthCertDoc65.jpg

Good catch.

If we learned anything, we learned Obama needs to release his original birth certificate so this doesn't happen again.

So, I guess this will mean that I was responsible for *DEHOAXING* this thread, then *REHOAXING* it. LOL

Oh, well.

Seriously, all I want is the truth.

reply to post by GLDNGUN


It's always good to be objective on both sides till it's proven 100%. In this case I think your find is the icing on the cake. Kudos to you sir.

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Good find!

Edit: Token second line even though it is a waste of words and time to add more than what needs to be said.

[edit on 8/3/2009 by Lemon.Fresh]

The one on Orly's website clearly says an E. The one I saved says E too. The one on the drip website says K. F. My girlfriend (who's alot better at font analyzation than me) concurs with this one.

One of them is fake..or both depending on how you look at it.

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Have we confirmed G.F.Lavender and J.H.Miller are Registrars in S.Aus ?

Initial Google results hasn't brought anything up.......May as well debunk it 100%

BtW Kudos to you for the research you have done.

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Now that IS Disturbing!!!

Very strange, same paper, same names - sans certain initials - same book & page number.

Oh boy, this might just be a stake in the heart of Keyes & Taitz!

Apparently this forgery was only good enough to fool the least educated among the crowd.

Problem number one with the document, is the February 17th, 1964 date on it. Kenya gained Independence on December 17th, 1963, yes, but it was not declared a Republic until December 17th of 1964. It shows Kenya as being a republic on the alleged birth certificate from 1964 but Kenya was not a Republic till December of that year. Huh? You may be asking how could a birth certificate be issued from a Kenyan Republic in February1964, when no such Kenyan Republic existed in February 1964?

Problem two the birth certificate lists the hospital as Coast General Hospital in Mombasa Kenya. Well Mombasa did not become part of Kenya until December 12th of 1963, before that it was part of Zanzibar. So again you might be asking how could Barack Obama be born on August 4th 1963, at a Mombasa hospital in Kenya, when at the time of his birth Mombasa was still part of Zanzibar and was not part of Kenya. So how could a Kenyan birth certificate be issued from a hospital in a city, that was not at the time part of Kenya but another country? So if Mombasa was part of Zanzibar in August when Obama was born, then shouldn't the birth certificate be a Zanzibar certificate and not a Kenyan one?

source

Originally posted by ken10
reply to post by GLDNGUN

 

Have we confirmed G.F.Lavender and J.H.Miller are Registrars in S.Aus ?

Initial Google results hasn't brought anything up.......May as well debunk it 100%

BtW Kudos to you for the research you have done.

No, I haven't done research on those names in Australia yet, but what are the odds that the same names and numbers would appear on a Kenyan document? Slim to none...and Slim is packing his bags. lol

reply to post by GLDNGUN


Great job!

If you look at the areas that were changed, (near the bottom on the right, where "Coast Province of Kenya" replaced "State of South Australia"), you can see the spacing in the Kenyan one is off. In other words, there are spaces added so the words would fit better.

There are 2 spaces before and after the word "Coast" and 2 spaces before and after the word "Kenya".

Amazing coincidence, the number 495 on the top and the numbers "Book 44B, Page 5733" near the bottom.

Pretty funny, really. I think we have a HOAX...

Originally posted by redhatty
reply to post by GLDNGUN

 

Now that IS Disturbing!!!

Very strange, same paper, same names - sans certain initials - same book & page number.

Oh boy, this might just be a stake in the heart of Keyes & Taitz!

No, no stake. Taitz did not submit the document as real. She said it needs to be looked into as possibly authentic. Even if this is thrown out, her case will go on. We still need to see BO's Hawaiian BC. After all, he's got nothing to hide. Right?

WND.com: WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.

Where are the pictures for these other birth certificates from Kenya that appear to be identical? I can't find them at the site.

Why hold back on those? Are we to just trust their word like we're supposed to trust the word of Hawaii state officials?

I'd like to see those pictures to compare them myself...

Great work on this post by GLDNGN THAT may very well be the nail in the coffin, for the Kenyan BC.

If it is forged, of course, the most likely suspects would be....

and here we go again....

Divide and Conquer at it's finest, and we can all read who's been duped, on either side of this issue.



Exchanged 'quote' tags for 'code' tags - stretching page

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I'm more and more willing to accept this as hoax unless someone can prove otherwise. Now, if someone can come up with a kenyan certified copy that has the same format I may be willing to accept the Lavender/Miller Coincidences.

After all, Australia was originally an English penal colony, wasn't it? Would only make sense if some of the same names were there.

Again, it *would* be a coincidence.

Originally posted by netwarrior
Would only make sense if some of the same names were there.

Again, it *would* be a coincidence.

no it cant be, becuase they both have different initials and the same last names


nice find GLDNGN

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