Obama allowing inspecting/removing data from Personal Computers

Yeppers,

Anothe Bush-like draconian law beening worked on by dictator obama.

As before, would would have been blasted in the news....

But dictator obama's draconian moves are all but ignored by MSP (main stream press)

Up until now, the breach of copyright has been a civil matter. The Obama administration seems to now want to criminalize it.

One of the things the treaty is said to be aimed at is peer-to-peer sharing, meaning passing on software from one user to another. But what it would do on a larger scale is let Big Brother watch you, this time on a completely different level.

Leaks of the text suggest that border guards will get unprecedented powers to search travelers without warning.

They will be able to go through, copy and confiscate any digital material people have on their laptop. This means music, movies, and games as well as any other personal material.

Russia Today

I am the only one, who considers it funny the source id Russia today, with Russia having severely limited freedoms, comparatively?

[edit on 8/2/2009 by mrmonsoon]

reply to post by mrmonsoon


In the new police state of america, public outcry of these actions will be dealt with by the new Obama brown-shirts. the ACORN police.

mrmonsoon, by federal and imperial decree I now accuse you of sedition and thought unbecoming of the new age of Obama-ites.

Please shut off your computer and wait outside.

You will be taken to one of our 'resorts' sponsored by FEMA, where we can "re-educate" you in the finer points of thought and conduct.

Peace be with you. All Hail Obama.

signed,

Big Brother
Sector 7G computer-fink specialist

reply to post by mikerussellus


Are you kidding????

I am sure I have been on the "name your favorite three letter federal agency" list for a long time now.

I think on my own...

I read the facts and make my own decessions as opposed to blndly believing what the talking heads on the nightly news tell me to think and do.

Now, funny thing is, I have nothing on my laptop except for basic tools, office and other softwaree used in repairs.networking and so on....

That does not change the fact that what I have on my laptop is not big brothers business...

And your source is Russia Today?

*shakes head*

reply to post by nixie_nox


To be serious for a second, what does it matter what the source was.

I have more doubts when something comes from MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, ad nauseum.

When the MSM won't produce a story because it goes against their "fearless leader" it doesn't mean it's not news.

Don't knock the source, discuss the story!

reply to post by mrmonsoon


Yes I am kidding.

But they will make your computer their business. This I do not joke about.

There have been threads recently about government control over laptop content.
www.abovetopsecret.com...





[edit on 2-8-2009 by mikerussellus]

Originally posted by mikerussellus
reply to post by nixie_nox

 

To be serious for a second, what does it matter what the source was.

I have more doubts when something comes from MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, ad nauseum.

When the MSM won't produce a story because it goes against their "fearless leader" it doesn't mean it's not news.

Don't knock the source, discuss the story!

i will knock the source...because alot of sources lie. maybe if you sited the actual law that has been enacted, the credibility of this OP would stand up to scrutiny.

reply to post by jimmyx


From the article. . .

In extreme secrecy from the public, the Obama administration is hammering out an international copyright treaty with several other countries and the European Union.

Under the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), governments will get sweeping new powers to search and seize material thought to be in breach of copyright.

Read into it what you want. But any new law or agreement that lessens MY freedoms won't be considered a good thing.

Time to run from a live cd when traveling, and save your work online.

If you don't have net access for storage, a mini sd card might be easily concealed.

reply to post by nixie_nox


I admit, it would not have been my first choice for a source......

What can I say, I found it and linked to the orginal source so everyone could read it.

This is going to have far reaching concequences.

Does this mean that they can enter your house to check your computer?

Does this mean they will enter your computer through online hacking?

Does this mean that anyone from the local cops on up to all the threee letter federal agencies will now be saying a version of Russian....

In Russia, Papers, please....

In the US, laptop, please??????

I notice that no author of this report is mentioned. It sure sounds like another Sorcha Faal type non-news-news report! I have come to the conclusion that anything printed in Russian media must be taken with a pound of salt. A grain just doesn't do it justice!
Zindo

It concerns copyright

Would have expected you to be more outraged about the use of public resources (law enforcement) working in the interests of greedy corporations

reply to post by ZindoDoone


I agree with you....

However, as I stated before, I saw the article and posted it for all to read.

I agree that no auther is listed.....

The site requires a sign up which I am not doing...

Perhaps......when signed up, the auther could be seen.

that said, I feel it is much more than copyrights......

Once they can enter your computer either directly or indirectly, it opens a whole nother can of beans...................

reply to post by mrmonsoon


I found this article on Wired.com's site:

There’s been speculation for months concerning the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. If ratified, many suggest it would criminalize peer-to-peer file sharing, subject iPods to border searches and allow internet service providers to monitor their customers’ communications.

Link

They also provide a link to a pdf document.

Wikipedia is not a valid reference source, but they do have references to other sources:
Link

Here is the US Government official document:
US Government Link


[edit on 3/8/2009 by deltaalphanovember]

reply to post by deltaalphanovember


Delta, you rock dude, just rock.

Thank you very much for your links and your useful input.


I stand by my saying that this is nothing more than the governments way to get access to your computer any time they want and copy/deletw anything they want, any time they want.

This also makes me think of Amazone .com deleting books from their media reader harware....

reply to post by mrmonsoon


It's a pleasure mate.

Piracy is plain wrong ... but I agree with your assessment that TPTB want to have access to all your private info.

Everyone on this site should think seriously about encrypting their data. This will only help against mid-level security scans (and may also make them more suspicious about you).

The fact is that we all have to be aware that our pc's and laptops are no longer secure data repositories. We have to resort to pen and paper again.

It reminds me of Battlestar Gallactica where the ship was actually deliberately designed to have low-tech systems with minimal networking as the Cylons could easily hack them.

reply to post by mrmonsoon


This is what should worry everyone.

From ACTA itself (Section 2 - Border Measures) [draft version]:

authority for customs to initiate such suspension ex officio (on their own initiative, without a request from the rights holder);

ACTA - Summary of Key elements under discussion