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Originally posted by seagull
OK, let's for a moment assume that the tech was available back in the day when Pres. Obama was born/hatched...
The question arises: Why? Why do such a thing? There needs to be a reason for this to be done...
For the life of me, I can't really think of a reason to do this.
Obama was born to a muslim, that makes him a muslim.
He went to a madrassas in Indonesia, that makes him a muslim.
If he leaves Islam to become a Chrisitan, which he did, he is now an apostate. Now he will be invited back to Islam and if not he is subject to death by Sharia Law.
The language is highly metaphor which most American's can't understand.
So in order to accept Barrakha (blessing) Hussain (prominent) Obama (son) back into his Islamic throne then there will be suggestions of his ancestry being related to Islamic (Egyptian, Muslim Brotherhood) circles.
Originally posted by Omniskeptic
This doesn't seem to be true. First off, I don't think Islam is hereditary. I'm pretty sure that one must say the Shahadah to be considered a Muslim. If I'm wrong about this, I'd love to see some links that will set me straight.
Considering that his father was an atheist by the time he reached college, and that Obama's parents separated when he was two, I highly doubt that he taught Obama anything about Islam.
He went to a madrassas in Indonesia, that makes him a muslim.
This is nothing but an urban legend. He went to a public school in Jakarta, which is Muslim only in the way that American public schools are Christian...
If he leaves Islam to become a Chrisitan, which he did, he is now an apostate. Now he will be invited back to Islam and if not he is subject to death by Sharia Law.
The language is highly metaphor which most American's can't understand.
I haven't seen any reason to believe that Obama was ever a Muslim, in any sense of the word. Because of this, he can't exactly be an apostate.
So in order to accept Barrakha (blessing) Hussain (prominent) Obama (son) back into his Islamic throne then there will be suggestions of his ancestry being related to Islamic (Egyptian, Muslim Brotherhood) circles.
What "Islamic throne" are you talking about? The Presidency of the United States?
Also, what does Ancient Egypt have to do with Islam? Islam was created around 600 A.D.
I'm especially confused abut the reference to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a modern group founded in 1928. How is it even remotely related to what we're talking about?
And, over and above the fact that the logic doesn't work, it still doesn't explain why you are claiming that the Powers that Be are radical Muslims.
Originally posted by JJay55
Your reply is in Western terms. Yes, in Islam, Islam is hereditary... so to speak. Once a Muslim always a muslim, born in the territory counts. That's the law.
All lands taken by Islam, including Egypt are considered Islam now.
No madrassas are not like public school in America. No comparison.
It's important to understand these principles because in 2010 there will be lots of questions.
If you think you are educated about Islam... you aren't from your responses. We cannot know this enemy if we don't understand the basics.
Originally posted by ADVISOR
So if it makes sence. Incest of the ancient ruling families, was to preserve a bloodline of the anti christ for his reign on Earth.
[edit on 2-8-2009 by ADVISOR]
Originally posted by Omniskeptic
Originally posted by JJay55
Your reply is in Western terms. Yes, in Islam, Islam is hereditary... so to speak. Once a Muslim always a muslim, born in the territory counts. That's the law.
All lands taken by Islam, including Egypt are considered Islam now.
Reference please? I have never heard such a thing.
Even if it's true though, how does it apply to the American-born Obama? (Or Kenyan-born if you're one of those people.) If you recall, the question was whether Obama is considered an apostate.
No madrassas are not like public school in America. No comparison.
This might be true, but it is irrelevant as Obama did not, in fact, attend a madrassa. He attended an Indonesian public school.
It's important to understand these principles because in 2010 there will be lots of questions.
Why 2010 specifically?
If you think you are educated about Islam... you aren't from your responses. We cannot know this enemy if we don't understand the basics.
"Islam" is not the enemy. Radical jihadist Islam is, sometimes. But still, how does this matter when discussing an alleged cloning project by TPTB? Unless you're claiming that TPTB are radical muslims?
Originally posted by seagull
OK, let's for a moment assume that the tech was available back in the day when Pres. Obama was born/hatched...
The question arises: Why? Why do such a thing? There needs to be a reason for this to be done...
For the life of me, I can't really think of a reason to do this.