There are no internment camps,Right ?

Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by open_eyeballs
Tell that to the Americans and Canadians of Japanese origin who spent years in these camps during WW2 and lost everything.

They were 'military convicts' during that time.

To everybody: Get ready! You know what I am talking about...

I'm down....it's on and poppin

Originally posted by [davinci]
reply to post by [davinci]

 

PS...I'm not going to U2U anything with you, if you can't say it in an open forum then it does not need to be said.

However a word of warning to you;

I have read your posts and the debate that you so proudly display. I have no intention of discussing your so called facts or wasting my time raising my own. Both of my grandfathers were there, both saw what you claim never happened, and both were traumatised for the rest of thier lives over the inhumanity that men are capable of. We can both cite resources until the end of time, but I remember my grandfather shaking in a cold sweat after seeing a magezine article on the Holocaust. I remember how that night he woke the entire family with his screams because he remembered through his dreams things he had forced himself to forget.

You are entitled to your point of view regardless of what my opinions of it are. If any of my comments have offended you then perhaps you can deny they happened too.

Do not pursue me on this matter, you are, in my opinion, misguided. Beyond that I will say nothing more.

Good for you.

Give my best to "both your grandfathers", and let me know if you want to know what really happened out there.

Originally posted by searching4truth
Perhaps someone can explain to me how actual soldiers would turn on Americans. I have no trust or faith in our government and while I would believe that they would desire to lock us all up, I can't come to believe that American soldiers would carry out the task, if anything I see them fighting against it. So how does this all work?

WEll you gotta remember that the military is brainwashing at its finest...

Not to sound ugly but it is what it is...

How do I know? I'm a former Marine.

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Star all the way for your post!!!

I've been trying to say that for a while to folks...

You are right in that brainwashing experiments ( MK Ultra, Tavistock, RAND) have been going on for the last 50 years to keep us docile and apathetic...never wanting to question or investigate...

They can learn about how governments kill and torture their people and lock them away in confinement ( concentration camps) but deny that good ole' United States would EVER FATHOM of doing us like that, or even more that us smart Americans are way too intelligent and too modern minded to allow anything like that...

They'd better wake up from their slumber

Originally posted by hminus
I don’t wish to burst your paranoia bubble here guys, but I taught the 31B and 31E schools for many years. I am now retired. I can honestly say that this is the same old school that has been taught for years. It simply has a new name. I can also tell you that there was never any evidence of our blocks of instruction were geared towards American Citizens. It was either military law enforcement on a military base or EPW operations overseas. All training scenarios were geared towards putting drunk soldiers in jail or processing captured EPW's. The terms INTERNMENT / RESETTLEMENT simply mean to "put in jail" and "to let go".. or "relocate"... These are two things we did as MP's in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now before I start getting pelted with abuse for being an MP associated with the abuses in Iraq... please understand that we NEVER-EVER taught or encouraged that crap. I was sickened when I heard of those abuses. I always told my students one thing:

"It does not matter how bad or evil you think your prisoner is... It is your duty as an American to treat them with dignity and protect them from harm. That is what makes us better than the enemy. That is what will always make America Strong."

Back on topic.. Although I believe something dreadful is on its way, I don't think our sons and daughters will ever have a part in the placing of Americans in any type of camp here on our soil. Have some faith in your fellow Americans. The video you were watching was nothing more than the National Guards MP recruitment program.

Let the stoning begin....

Greetings fellow MP!

Listen, I got out in 2005, and I never heard of this crap....now granted I was a V5, but was deployed as well, so our investigative team switched to combat support, but still, I have never ever heard of a 31E. Also, I was stationed at one of the largest RCF's CONUS, so I know quite a few Charlies.

So my question is, why change the name? Why the new identifier? Bravos and Charlies were already trained on these aspects. Come one, you know the 5 S's - Silence, Search, Segregate, Speed and Safeguard...but to me this looks alot more indepth, whether in garrison or in the field.

Also, why not in the RA? The fact that this is relegated to the ARNG is creppy.

Originally posted by earthman4
I don't think the "wary" who are afraid of being interned realize that there is not enough room in these camps to intern even one tenth of a percent of our population. Fear not, they have no place to put you.

In the ground comes to mind..

reply to post by PrisonerOfSociety


Yep...and when Obama declares Martial Law then the Constitution is suspended...

The Swine Flu Genocide..err....pandemic will probably be just the reason to declare a National Emergency...

By theway, have any of you heard of WalMart administering Swine Flu (death) shots? I heard it....

This sh!! is crazy

Perhaps I am looking at this a little differently which is causing me to come to a different conclusion.

During a natural disaster or where rioting/chaos has broken out, my understanding is that the local police will be out manned, out gunned and not have the man power to control the situation. In that event, the military would have to get involved to assist with detaining looters, rioters and assisting the police in securing the area. Medical personel would have to be protected to get the injured out and if the local police are scattered or injured, the military or NG would have to be used. That would be when these soliders come in and do what they are trained to do. Sort out the criminals that are exploiting the situation, hampering the recovery efforts and helping to restore order.

If there is more to it, then I am interested to see where. I have yet to hear from anyone what reason would be used to convince our US Armed Forces that they need to imprison or slaughter the citizens of the US.

My mind is wide-open....

reply to post by Roadblockx


I imagine that the scenario you paint is realistic. But I can't help but question the 'inevitability' of riots and mass hysteria.

Yes such things do happen; but never on such a scale as to require a national level emergency and lock-down.

I suppose we can always plan for the worst and hope for the best. But in light of the mysterious 'continuity of government' plans we never get to actually read or see, I'm not hopeful about the nature of the 'planners.'

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by earthman4
I don't think the "wary" who are afraid of being interned realize that there is not enough room in these camps to intern even one tenth of a percent of our population. Fear not, they have no place to put you.

In the ground comes to mind..

I've never felt such a mix of emotions....

Laughter, sadness and fear

Originally posted by zooplancton
all the camp talk makes me wonder if TPTB are expecting for our american soil to be breached from an attack from china or other?

sounds nutty, but...

This idea is discussed in this thread on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, from personal experience of family (our son) and friends, a LOT of military are being deployed in September to Afghanistan (oh so close to China). Does this mean anything?

reply to post by Maxmars


Fair enough. I grant that the plans the g0v are coming up with include a host of situations that you and I couldn't begin to see as possible. Are they planning for an asteroid/meteor hitting, pandamic, Yellowstone blowing up.....??

The US already has a huge advantage over nearly all other countries so how would a massive oppression of its people by military force continue that advantage? Again, unless there was some impending doom (comet coming inbound) would order need to be managed but who wants to be rounding up the civilians when the earth is about to go up in flames? Not even the most hard-core solider would see the intelligence of not being with his family or friends in the last few days, hours, minutes.... Would they?

Originally posted by TXTriker

Originally posted by zooplancton
all the camp talk makes me wonder if TPTB are expecting for our american soil to be breached from an attack from china or other?

sounds nutty, but...

This idea is discussed in this thread on ATS.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also, from personal experience of family (our son) and friends, a LOT of military are being deployed in September to Afghanistan (oh so close to China). Does this mean anything?

Umm...... As a military brat, my father was enlisted and then an officer. I don't know that he ever told me a month ahead of time when he would be shipped out. It was almost like a week or few days at the most before.

Not that I am calling you a liar, please understand I am not and I am thankful for anyone's service to the country and believe that you aren't making up the dates. But I wonder how accurate that date is that you were given or that your family/friends were given. Form of misinformation.

I don't know of anything "major" happening in Sept. except that it is our 10th anniversary of 9/11.

Maybe they are going to beef up the forces in Afg. Then when the Three Gorges Dam in Ch has an "unforseen" collapse, we will be nearby to assist and establish a foothold so we can further our scouting/recon of their installations. We will already have the people in place here in the US to establish a martial law if things get crazy at home...... Maybe...... Mark this post!!

[edit on 3-8-2009 by Roadblockx]

[edit on 3-8-2009 by Roadblockx]

Arrangemnets for family are in place..

So is the Doomsday Seed Vault in the Arctic

www.globalresearch.ca...

Just saying

I was an MP for the past 5 years ( I just got out) It seems bad but I promise its a completely normal job. They mostly watch soldiers under some UCMJ violation, Military prisoners or holding facilities and overseas detainment camps for suspected terrorists etc. On paper it looks menacing but believe me, most MPs would rather fight to the death to protect the rights of American citizens than run a FEMA camp........private companies like backwater on the other hand........I have never meet one that I trust.

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No exact date given just the month of September. When our son was deployed to Iraq he had at least a month's notice so his knowing now doesn't surprise me. As to our friend, this is his fourth trip - first to Afg. He found out at about the same time as our son. Son = Marines Friend = Army.

I do agree that a lot of notice is not the norm and it may be changed before he goes. He has been given almost a month leave in August before the deployment.

These two are not the only ones. Friends who are now in the Patriot Guard are mentioning the same thing about their friends and family being shipped out to Afg shortly and we are all wondering why so many now.

reply to post by Truth4hire


My fathers dad died when i was 8, my mothers @ 14: I'm now 35.

Thank you for your continued insensitivity.

Originally posted by OnTheFelt

Originally posted by hminus
I don’t wish to burst your paranoia bubble here guys, but I taught the 31B and 31E schools for many years. I am now retired. I can honestly say that this is the same old school that has been taught for years. It simply has a new name. I can also tell you that there was never any evidence of our blocks of instruction were geared towards American Citizens. It was either military law enforcement on a military base or EPW operations overseas. All training scenarios were geared towards putting drunk soldiers in jail or processing captured EPW's. The terms INTERNMENT / RESETTLEMENT simply mean to "put in jail" and "to let go".. or "relocate"... These are two things we did as MP's in Afghanistan and Iraq. Now before I start getting pelted with abuse for being an MP associated with the abuses in Iraq... please understand that we NEVER-EVER taught or encouraged that crap. I was sickened when I heard of those abuses. I always told my students one thing:

"It does not matter how bad or evil you think your prisoner is... It is your duty as an American to treat them with dignity and protect them from harm. That is what makes us better than the enemy. That is what will always make America Strong."

Back on topic.. Although I believe something dreadful is on its way, I don't think our sons and daughters will ever have a part in the placing of Americans in any type of camp here on our soil. Have some faith in your fellow Americans. The video you were watching was nothing more than the National Guards MP recruitment program.

Let the stoning begin....

Greetings fellow MP!

Listen, I got out in 2005, and I never heard of this crap....now granted I was a V5, but was deployed as well, so our investigative team switched to combat support, but still, I have never ever heard of a 31E. Also, I was stationed at one of the largest RCF's CONUS, so I know quite a few Charlies.

So my question is, why change the name? Why the new identifier? Bravos and Charlies were already trained on these aspects. Come one, you know the 5 S's - Silence, Search, Segregate, Speed and Safeguard...but to me this looks alot more indepth, whether in garrison or in the field.

Also, why not in the RA? The fact that this is relegated to the ARNG is creppy.

hey guys, just curious...when did they change the MOS number ? I was an MP from 1988 to 1993 and then an MP was a 95b.

Originally posted by Truth4hire

Originally posted by RobinB022
After the Americans were caught escaping from one of the tunnels,TOM,of TOM,DICK,and HARRY,Hitler was sick of 'this nonsense' and wanted to "kill them ALL',but was told that it would cause a NATIONAL uproar.

He then said to kill 50% of the prisoners,but the % got lost in translation and only 50 (sorry to say only,but...) were killed.

You are knowingly posting false information about Hitler and the things he supposidly said. Do not insult the ones who have researched the matter in-depth.

I have reported you to the moderators for violating the T&C of A.T.S. for knowingly posting false information.

Shame.

Well,that's wonderful,have you reported NAT GEO as well,or are only YOUR sources acceptable?

I did not knowing post false information..I have no desire to do such a thing,and find no benefit in doing so.

The only thing that I did that perhaps I should not have,was neglected to give a source at all.My fault was in thinking that I could contribute without proof,as in conversation.

You might have asked me where I learned this information before insulting me by assuming that YOU are the only one whose research matters,or is correct.There is an awful lot of info out there,and I feel it is fairly safe to say that unless we were actually there--all any of us know is what we learn.

I will learn from this.

reply to post by Truth4hire

You are knowingly posting false information about Hitler and the things he supposidly said

The 'things' that "he said" I heard on a documentary-and true enough-I was not there to actually HEAR him say it with my own ears,but....

Artur Nebe, the German officer ordered to choose 50 of the 73 captured prisoners involved in the Great Escape to be executed, was later found to be involved in a plot to assassinate German dictator Adolf Hitler.

channel.nationalgeographic.com...The Great Escape:

Sure enough,I didn't hear the words spoken,only heard of them being spoken.

I hope this helps to clear things up