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Originally posted by jthomas
Uh....the time stamp is the first way to validate that security camera footage is from the time, date, and camera is it said to be from.
Originally posted by jthomas
You're in denial. YOU have to refute the evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon and, as everyone here can see quite plainly, you can't. Period.
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by evil incarnate
You claim that the footage in your avatar is real solid government proof that a plane was flown into the building.
I never stated any such thing. You won't find me stating any such thing.
jthomas, please explain to all of us, why you won't state that the security camera images show that a plane was flown into the Pentagon?
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by evil incarnate
You claim that the footage in your avatar is real solid government proof that a plane was flown into the building.
I never stated any such thing. You won't find me stating any such thing.
jthomas, please explain to all of us, why you won't state that the security camera images show that a plane was flown into the Pentagon?
I don't see a plane hitting the Pentagon, do you?
Originally posted by jthomas
Now, are you going to continue the deny that CIT and Balsamo claim a jet flew over the Pentagon rather than hit it?
What's the matter, cat got your tongue?
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by evil incarnate
You claim that the footage in your avatar is real solid government proof that a plane was flown into the building.
I never stated any such thing. You won't find me stating any such thing.
jthomas, please explain to all of us, why you won't state that the security camera images show that a plane was flown into the Pentagon?
I don't see a plane hitting the Pentagon, do you?
Thank you, jthomas!!! Thanks so very much!!!
Casual readers to this thread, look no further for proof that my OP is true.
jthomas, being the staunch government story believer, has shown us all how illogical he really is.
When pressed to state his convictions about the security tape, he has backed out from claiming that it shows Flight AA77 hitting the Pentagon.
jthomas, you've done wonders in this thread.
Thanks for your contributions. I couldn't have started this thread without you.
Originally posted by jthomas
Isn't it interesting that I have never claimed that the "security camera video shows any aircraft hitting the Pentagon." Just so we're clear about that, I want you to show everyone here any post I have made on any forum in which I have said that the security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon.
Originally posted by jthomas
So, when I ask you 9/11 Deniers about your claims I know you aren't going to be able to support them.
Originally posted by jthomas
Now, tezz, get back to us with your proof that I have ever claimed a security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon. Remember the deal, if you can't demonstrate that, you will issue your retraction right here on ATS, correct?
Originally posted by jthomas
Now, tezz, get back to us with your proof that I have ever claimed a security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon. Remember the deal, if you can't demonstrate that, you will issue your retraction right here on ATS, correct?
Better get to work, eh?
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by jthomas
Isn't it interesting that I have never claimed that the "security camera video shows any aircraft hitting the Pentagon." Just so we're clear about that, I want you to show everyone here any post I have made on any forum in which I have said that the security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon.
jthomas, the fact that you can't comprehend my argument is quite telling.
You believe the government story that Flight AA77 crashed into the Pentagon. However, you stop short of stating that the security camera shows Flight AA77 hitting the Pentagon.
The illogical hypocrisy is that you're prepared to believe that Flight AA77 hit the Pentagon, but you're not prepared to believe that the security camera shows Flight AA77 hitting the Pentagon.
The rest of your reply is so far off base from my argument, that it highlights your inability to understand my contention.
You have proven how illogical your position is, to support the government story, yet to deny the government evidence.
You make the claim that Flight AA77 hit the Pentagon, but you won't support that security tape. Why not, jthomas? Don't you believe everything that your government wants you to?
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Originally posted by jprophet420
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Theres more of "us" than "you". "You" guys have yet to prove your case as "we" do.
Originally posted by jthomas
The FACT that the security camera video does not in itself show a jet is irrelevant and NOT in itself evidence that a jet hit the Pentagon.
Originally posted by evil incarnate
Originally posted by jthomas
Now, tezz, get back to us with your proof that I have ever claimed a security camera video shows anything hitting the Pentagon. Remember the deal, if you can't demonstrate that, you will issue your retraction right here on ATS, correct?
Better get to work, eh?
Tsk tsk. That is really too bad. You are here promoting, almost prosteletizing to us about the believability of the government story of flight 77 crashing into the pentagon ...
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Theres more of "us" than "you". "You" guys have yet to prove your case as "we" do.
You're the ones making claims - you gotta support them. YOU are the ones that have to convince the real world. But you can't.
Originally posted by jprophet420
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Theres more of "us" than "you". "You" guys have yet to prove your case as "we" do.
You're the ones making claims - you gotta support them. YOU are the ones that have to convince the real world. But you can't.
I claim that the OS is inaccurate and we need a new investigation. Theres more people that take that stance than support the OS 100%, and this has been illustrated in scientific and non scientific polls. You're the "denial" expert here.
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Theres more of "us" than "you". "You" guys have yet to prove your case as "we" do.
You're the ones making claims - you gotta support them. YOU are the ones that have to convince the real world. But you can't.
I claim that the OS is inaccurate and we need a new investigation. Theres more people that take that stance than support the OS 100%, and this has been illustrated in scientific and non scientific polls. You're the "denial" expert here.
AS long as you fool yourself with the canard of a so-called "official story" and refuse to refute the actual evidence you'll never convince the real world for the need of yet another investigation. Not one chance.
Originally posted by jprophet420
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
Originally posted by jthomas
Originally posted by jprophet420
You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones...
Theres more of "us" than "you". "You" guys have yet to prove your case as "we" do.
You're the ones making claims - you gotta support them. YOU are the ones that have to convince the real world. But you can't.
I claim that the OS is inaccurate and we need a new investigation. Theres more people that take that stance than support the OS 100%, and this has been illustrated in scientific and non scientific polls. You're the "denial" expert here.
AS long as you fool yourself with the canard of a so-called "official story" and refuse to refute the actual evidence you'll never convince the real world for the need of yet another investigation. Not one chance.
If by real world you mean the minority of people then yes. Otherwise you're just blowin' smoke.
Gosh. It's been 8 years of you 9/11 Deniers blowing smoke and you still can't refute the evidence and convince the real world that any new investigation is needed.
Good luck. We'll be waiting.
The fact is that you are trapped in your own contradictions and have to rationalize everything to fit your viewpoint.
The fact that you are still under the illusion that there is some "government story" that one has to "believe" or not is why you can't focus on facts and reality. You guys invented the canard of the "government story", the "official story", and it keeps you happily in a fantasy world where you don't have to deal with the massive evidence from multiple independent and government sources.
You can't allow yourself to accept that the fact that the actual evidence of AA77 hitting the Pentagon never came from the government to begin with, nor was it possible for the government to control that evidence. It is why your canard that ALL of the evidence came from the "government" falls flat on its face.
And you fell for it.
The fact of how illogical your statement is escapes you. The FACT remains: the evidence that AA77 hit the Pentagon comes from multiple lines of evidence that converge on the same conclusion.
Your contention is clear as a bell and false.
Your belief in the canard of a so-called "government story" is what is keeping you from understanding reality. The FACT that the security camera video does not in itself show a jet is irrelevant and NOT in itself evidence that a jet hit the Pentagon. ALL of the other evidence confirms that AA77 hit the Pentagon - you just refuse to admit it to yourself and deal with it.
LOL. Now you see can how silly your contention is - if you open your eyes and take your blindfold off. You 9/11 Deniers are the only ones who desperately need to claim that there is only a "government story!"
After all, your complete inability to deal with the actual evidence from multiple independent sources is why you have to shut your eyes and pretend that its only a "government story."
Don't you think it's time to question those who led your down the garden path to believe in the canard of the "government story," tezz?
Maybe you'll sit down and question your own beliefs for a change. You may come to realize how silly and illogical all your 9/11 conspiracy theories really are.
Now, just WHEN will any of you 9/11 Deniers summon up the courage to present the statements of the over 1,000 people from multiple local groups who had direct contact with the wreckage from inside the Pentagon? How many more years do we have to wait before one of you will do that?
Originally posted by jthomas
LOL. You just can't stand that there's no "government story" upon which anyone has to rely. The realization that you have accepted on faith the canard of the "government story" must be devastating to you.