Mother Says Devil Made Her decapitate her 3 week old Son

This is a result of severe copper toxicity. It's common after childbearing. Increased estrogen correlates with copper overload. It excites the brain too much, and causes psychosis. People need to be more informed of this, asap. I suffered copper toxicity last year. It's treatment revolves mainly around balancing the zinc/copper ratio, and supplying antioxidants.

www.drlwilson.com...

She's in survival mode. Since her body is signaling she's near death, her instinctual nature begins to basically implant thoughts of killing her kid. This sounds sick...it is...she is sick...but I think this is the truth in the matter.

The notion of "devil" is her compartmentalization. A projection of a disowned part of her, she can't accept. She loves her child, yet instinct has won out. At our root, instinct drives us all.

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Thanks for this contribution.


So many people will judge this from their point of anger at what has happened. Folks don't realize how much of our behaviors are due to our body chemistry and how extreme our behaviors can be come when chemistry is out of whack.


History has a ton of anecdotal evidence pointing to these type of post-partem craziness.

I know my sons mother went off the deep end as well, she didn't kill anyone, but she was definitely completely nuts for a good 4 months or so. Real crazy up front and then gradual move back into sanity.

Originally posted by stairway27
At least the child gets a free ticket out of this place. As for the woman I believe that she believes the 'devil' told her to do it. But without info on her condition who knows.

That is the only solace in a case like this. At least the baby only had 3 crazy weeks instead of being 10 or 12 or 15 when the mother flipped and killed it!

Ingested? Ya, I am believing the devil story too! This is not human behaviour! You may say 'Psychotic Break' and be technically correct, but this goes beyond a mother's worst imagination! Regardless of the reasoning behind it, I say the mother gets the death penalty! I feel sorry for her, but can we ever really say, "Oh, she's fine now, she takes pills, set her free!"

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i reallly hope that dosnt happen with my gf...i dont know what id do if something like this would happen to my kid.

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Well if post-partem is a temporary situation, why couldn't you?

Is it because we can't let go of what happened to the child? Even though it was due to a momentary and temporary extreme chemical imbalance, that may well be with her for some time to come, but not permanently?

Although when she balances out her past actions will drive her nutty as well.

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While I don't doubt the severity of post-partum, I just don't think we could ever trust this person around children again, and I don't believe in life-imprisonment!

It seems her break was more than post-partum. The depression associated with that usually results in child neglect or in an angry throw or shaking. It certainly is not typical to decapitate and eat your child!

Forced sterilization is even more controversial than the death penalty, so chances are against pulling that one off. Then, if she were medicated and sterilized, she may miss her baby, get depressed, go off the meds and become dangerous again. Kidnap a baby, or take a job as someone's nanny!!

It is sad, but I only see the death penalty as a viable option.

I'm glad your wife came through fine! Most of them do, especially when they have good support around them. Congrats to you!

The woman ate the child's brain, chewed off some of its toes and tore off it's face.

The baby was 3-1/2 weeks old and the father moved out only 1 week ago.

If she was nuts why would he leave his child in her care. I have 5 kids and this just sickens me. I think the rest of the extended family will have a lot of soul searching to do.

www.breitbart.com...

I have a hard time believing postpartum depression is the cause of this horrible act. I guess we will have to leave it up to the experts.

Thank God this above my pay grade.



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Umm no. This mothers screwed up ass head made her do it, not the devil.

Are there ANY good parents left? I hate reading stories like this.

[edit on 27-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

Its a shame someone couldnt read the warning signs with her prior to this shocking event.Poor kid,and poor mother-she was clearly insane and needed help

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I am not going to get into it with you...you always read into other people's statements.

and no I don't have any axes to grind about Christianity no matter what you read into it.

Facts are in Judaism the Devil was God's prosecutor...he tested people...read Job.

In Islam he is something of a buffoon and when Muslims refer to America as the great Satan it is this aspect they are referring to.

Only in Christianity has Satan...the Devil...Lucifer etc has evolved into something of a lesser god with the power to tempt people into sin and encourage them to do things that they would not normally do including witchcraft, heresy and murder....

AND certainly many people over the ages have used the Satanic excuse to try and evade responsibility for their actions...and the Church encouraged it.



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I certainly know that...

I have no illusions to the contrary.

i say do the same to her. It dont matter if she was mental. most mental people are harmless, and wouldnt do crap like this, they know better. its no excuse to kill.

I don't even know what to say, especially after checking out Sparky's links. It's so heartbreaking my stomach is upset.

However, this is not religiously motivated. The woman clearly had some form of psychotic episode. This is not the case of someone using religion to defend their actions or following the 'rules' of their religion or using religion as a scapegoat.

The article says she was hearing voices- this is a sign of severe neurological problems. If someone has an affair and says 'The Devil made me do it,' that is someone using a scapegoat. When you murder your child and eat the body parts claiming the 'Devil made you do it,' that is someone experiencing some serious mental issues. Someone suffering from an episode would have done such a thing regardless of religion. It sounds like she is trying to interpret her episode in a way she would understand and is associated the 'voices' with what she believes was demonic.

What a horrible story. My heart goes out to the little baby.

Some people have really awful instances of postpartum depression. And if she was like this to begin with, a doctor or something should have... checked?

I'm not saying people should be psychologically tested before they have kids. No no no. We've had that discussion before. I just think that someone should have noticed something was going on, if there was something wrong with her like that.

Originally posted by grover
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I certainly know that...

I have no illusions to the contrary.

Oh I know that! I just happened to respond to your post so it looked like I was aiming that at you... I wasn't though!

Peace

Happened locally,I heard the horrible details first thing this am over my coffee,the newscaster could barely get the story out without breaking down.

I sat and cried a bit for the poor angel's little soul and also saw my man tear up.

I am not going to try and sugar-coat this: in South Texas so far this year I wake up to these HORRIBLE stories of crimes against small children at least once a week,the child-abuse has become rampant and it's mostly carried on by young parents.Drugs are commonly involved but many of them have these babies in order to "collect" more from the system.The problem is out of control...as is the abuse.

Jeeze...they can get their fine young asses into the office to apply for assistance fast enough but not for "help" if they feel they are unable or unwilling to care for the babies? They CAN get help with post-partum issues and meds f they need them,the programs are everywhere down here.

There are sooooooooo many that would have loved this baby out there.

You can argue any which way but I live here,see it up close and personal in my community and despair because the situation is getting worse...they have "rights" according to the law so they breed without restraint so they can collect from the government,disdain birth-control due to "Catholic beliefs" (convienient card to play...) and again,there hasn't been a week that's gone by in recent months where some story of extreme violence towards a little one hasn't started my day.

Regardless of "what" motivated her,she had a baby she could not care for and now no doubt,we'll be paying for her care and treatment for years to come.
She has been charged with murder.

I personally do not have "sympathy" for this woman,only hope that the murder charge sticks and that she will be punished accordingly.





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Ignoring the fact that this is in all likely-hood a previously undiagnosed neurological condition, possibly set off by a complication with PPD; I find myself forced to ask the question that always plagues me when people use this defense.

The devil made me do it.

Why the hell would you listen to the devil?

Originally posted by eNumbra
Ignoring the fact that this is in all likely-hood a previously undiagnosed neurological condition, possibly set off by a complication with PPD; I find myself forced to ask the question that always plagues me when people use this defense.

The devil made me do it.

Why the hell would you listen to the devil?

Especially considering the fact that no such thing as the devil exists. Might as well say the tooth fairy made me do it. Religious people are so mentally deluded it is a disgrace to mankind.

Well most religions target dumb people.......Most religions are made up of dumb people.

There are however very smart , sane, individuals who happen to also have faith in a God ( whomever that may be ) that would never do something this idiotic.

It's not about the religion's control, it's about the dumb people being suseptable to the views of a given religion.

Smart people don't do this stuff, yet they are religious...

There are just dumb people who believe anything and in turn they do dumb sh*t like this......

We need to find a way to better educate our people....the problem is, that education starts early in children with parenting and what the parents teach gets instilled into the child's mind as either acceptable or not.....

When dumb people have children and teach them dumb things , those kids end up becoming dumb and don't live up to their full potential......


I wish there was a way to just ship people like this off to an island where they can just form a dumb community and eventually destroy themselves because they are so dumb....

Would be cool if they evolved into smart people but i don't see that happening..

And no i'm not acting as If I am the smartest person IQ wise on this earth, but I have an open mind enough to be able to think for myself and if something does not make sense then I dont' go blaming the devil for it.!

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Am trying not to judge this Mother that's not upto me.

In this World she will be brought to court and others will judge her.

At Soul level she has sowed a pile of bad Karma that will follow her for long to come.