Why Hate the British Royals?

Originally posted by rich23
Funny how nobody's addressed the points I made in the OP.

It says a great deal about people's comprehension abilities and attention span.

eh?



lol

[edit on 31-7-2009 by slinkey10]

Originally posted by mattpryor
Do we have any treasures left to protect? I thought Gordon Brown flogged them all in a car boot sale

I think you'll find the boot sale started under Thatcher, whose ideological commitment to privatisation has led directly to the wonderful state of Britain today.

Years ago I worked for the pre-privatisation London Electricity Board. Their "mission statement" as it would be called today, was, "To provide electricity to the people of London as cheaply and efficiently as possible".

Obviously there was something wrong with that because it was a missed opportunity for some fat cats to make money.

I've more recently worked for EDF, and I have to say that the promised increases in efficiency have not happened: but a huge layer of infrastructure means people can now swap from one provider to another in the faint hopes of shaving a few pence from bills that are much higher than they would be under a nationalised system.

Again, you have only to look at what happened to British Rail. Thatcher ran down its budget until it was ready for someone to turn around and say, "this is terrible, we must get the private sector involved". Everyone fell for it and we now have an expensive and unwieldy system in which profit is privatised but the losses are still picked up by the public purse.

It's stupid.

And while I have no brief for Brown, blaming it all on him is the kind of ignorance I was sent here to deny.

reply to post by rich23


S&F

I used to despise the Royals, until I realized that at least they keep a President out.

Presidents are elected based on money, and they change all the time. I don't believe any President except JFK has true allegiance to his people (and look what happened to him).

At least the Royals are a long line and most (well,some) of them have a conscience which keeps them loyal to their own people.

reply to post by slylee


Prince Phillip is an unfortunate accident that happened to the queen.

Please don't blame her for his foot n mouth.

Why would you hate the royals.Most are ugly anyway.

a reply to: Solomons
not your things to sell or give away. People like you that suggest such a thing are just pathetic and need to grow up.

Many on here, have no idea about the Royal family , there wealth, funding or have basic understanding of history. They do not rule, they do not live of the British taxpayer, they never have done. Stop assuming because of the word "Royal" it is tax funded. Myths and lies that the uneducated think is true, because they hate people having wealth. Also They do not even get a wage. Start learning the topic you are talking about before you insult them.

It the whole "born privileged" I tend to have a problem with. The strongest thrive
Yes we should be able to pass on our rewards but maybe modern society needs new codes like encouraging passing on Morals more than wealth.
Also many inheritors have been given spoils of evil acts.

To put it clearer its the argument if society is better served by the strongest excelling, more equality or other structure.

I think you only need to see who flocks to the royals to see what power they have.

And rolls in societies they have gained.

This Ol' back hill country boy's gonna take a stab at your post, there Limey, an' see if I can't set you straight on a couple of things.

Unlike the current Admin of the US, G.W. Bush at least had the basic decency to pay for his vacations, usually on his rancg in Texas, opposed to golf cources in Hawaii, out of his own pocket rather than at taxpayer expense...and with a 400 k payroll to work with annually, I think he did pretty well.

Second, Yeah a lot of us DID save your asses, including the 50 or so Admialty class CVE's the 10 k or so Stuart, Grant and Sherman ttanks, and half brothers the m-7 priest SPg we sent over. Mind, The British addition of the 17 pounder to the Sherman Firefly was a work of art, but without the chassis...

As to the Royals... I'm part Cherokee Indian, who wishes none of you furreigners had ever arrived here...part Irish, who's ansecesters came over as "Indentured servants"...in effect slaves, promoted by the Crown,.. Part German, a merc who basiclly deserted, and part English. Way I understand it, the Royals are given what we would call welfare, a basic libving stipend with no real income of their own...biggest Socalist cases there are, for otherwise they own nothing. the "Royal homes" and such actually belongto the Government, and are only used by the current residents...

Leave them alone...at leas they ain't running the streets.

Frankly, I just hate to see ANYONE pickin' on poor folks like that. Windsor castle may look nice, but it still belongs to the State and only on loan to the royals..

a reply to: Greywolf13A
Liked your post...so...I'm replying to it (since I can't Flag it).
I work in a field that makes me look at Legal history...continuously...and...the Royals made out like...bandits, in the Oil & Gas Industry...by virtue of nothing more than something that the rest of us have no access to - - - - - unbelievable wealth.
While the Crown of England may have lost in the Revolutionary War...they never let their eye stray from the goal...and, as soon as opportunities arose - they bought as much of it back, as the goofy money-hungry Americans were willing to SELL.
Royal Dutch Shell
British Petroleum (BP)
Amerada Petroleum
...etc...
I find the notion of Royalty...more disgusting than almost any other concept that has ever taken root in...civilization.

a reply to: WanDash


The way I heard it, those gas companies are publicly traded stocks, also, so if the market crashes they loose just as much as the next guy...I don't hold a person's gamblin' against em...I like a hand or two of poker myself..Now and then.

a reply to: Greywolf13A
You could be right...but...they were buying this stuff up back in the latter 1800's.
I like poker too!
In doing genealogical research, I have found that my heritage goes back to royalty...on my mother's paternal side... Seems so many I've talked with about this, ALSO have 'royalty' in their genealogy ---
My brother once encountered a woman (in the USA) who sat for hours with him, showing him convincing proof that She was supposed to be the Queen of England...but - I don't remember the entire story... Nevertheless - on a visit to the USA...Prince Charles dropped from the radar for a short bit of time...and, according to her...paid her a visit. (a part of her story was that - her son had been castrated by the current strain of usurpers). My brother was convinced...
Kinda makes you wonder if most peoples currently living...on Earth...aren't descended from royalty somewhere along the way... WHICH places a question-mark on "Survival of the Fittest"...unless we're going to include "the Royalest" in the description of the Fittest.

a reply to: rich23

Why only hate the British Royals? Would be a more profound
question in this context. That is to say why not include all
who are worth hating? And those who are worth hating are,
those who enjoy thier lavish wealth while others starve.
They're a sickening reminder of everything wrong with
this world and actually the only thing wrong with it at the
same time.

Us.

Pathetic greed driven scum. They deserve a whole world of pain for what they have inflicted upon people throughout their history. Scum of the earth indeed

rich23, in regards to your question,

Run the US, maybe influence it, is a better definition. We need to realize that they are just like any other family who are instinctively driven by their human want to protect themselves to achieve or create a position of influence to ensure they can sustain their existence in the face of any real or conceivable threat. Ask any loving parent what they would be capable of doing to another human who threatens their child.


The use of God is to appease the believers of the mystical air fairy rather than for their own want.
In the past and for many still to this day being victorious was attributed to the influence of God rather than the actual subconsciously compelled justified violence instigated in order to protect itself from loss, which it has evolved to do over millions of years.

In God We Trust, well if this is the American Idiom and God appoints the Royal family then every American should trust the royal family.

The problem reasonable people face is the foundation of The Royal Family, The United Kingdom, The United States of America and most other Westernized countries is based on the belief of an unknowable GOD a concept created by some very clever priests a long time ago to enhance their capacity to INFLUENCE the thoughts of others FOR THEIR OWN GAIN. This was then justifiably used by men and their family's who were capable of achieving power through uniting clans to eliminate any threat to their position of control and influence.

Look more towards why people do what they do rather than be distracted by what they are doing and the clarity you seek will be achieved.

a reply to: randyvs

a reply to: WanDash
Deal familly coat of arms Red shield 3 white cross belts, castle upper left...got a Town up NE of london somewhere....but that was then, this is now.

a reply to: Dicko
That puts this poor boy in the same class...Tis greed that got me up to work the best part of 52 years..