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Originally posted by summerdreary
This thread is the most engaging thread I have read for awhile. I am now realizing that I am ignorant when it comes to my own spirtuality. The world is certaintly very complicated, and reading a high school world history book is not going to even come close to what has happened over the history of the world. Elves, I never would have imagined it.
I am really interested in the whole shaman thing. Could you U2U me with more information about that? I want to find out more about myself spirtualy, but I don't really know where to start.
Originally posted by Asmus
Brilliant! Fascinating! Marvelous!! Well the list could go on and on, but I think you get the idea DRG =o)
Finally something interesting on this website, that doesn't involve people yelling and dividing amongst each other, and that also subsequently gives me a braoder perspective. It is a sort of drug (in a sense)for me, and it is incredibly uplifting and informative. So much of what I read and see is very redundant and recycled now, so I have spent less and less time sifting through things, and much less time actually finding anything that is different. Needless to say, in most of your threads, my vibration speeds up, as I slip into higher state of concioussness while reading.
Now, on to my first question: What is your perspective on Alex Collier, and the information he has brought forth? He mentions numerous times that we are very unique here on this planet, due to our ET Lineage (Among many other fascinating things). Will start with this for now!
Thank you for your time as always.
Be In Peace
EDIT: Don't intend for this to be too off-topic. Just very curious as to where his info fits into all of this.
[edit on 6-10-2009 by Asmus]
Originally posted by Egyptia
reply to post by DragonriderGal
I would like to thank you Dragongirlrider for this information. I think we can all say that it is fascinating. Since I was a child I had clear memory of unicorns, el folk, dragons and many others. What I couldn't understand was why this world seemed vacant of them all. At the age of 5 I had gnomish folk coming to spend time with me daily. I know it sounds insane but this continued until I was 9 years old at which time they said that I was loosing the connection because the world was creeping in. I recall the very wee L folk as well.
I was upset to discover that no one else knew of their existence or what the dickens I was even talking about. I grew up seeing a lot of things that are real but many can't see. As the world crept in, other things stepped in their absence. It became a new level of phenomenon.
There is always a price for knowledge and it usually results in isolation according to the way this world works. It's truly sad.
I remember feeling like an entire world left me when they could no longer connect with me.
As per the dragons.........what I remember in my soul from the time I was a child is that they were fiercely intelligent, powerful and many lived by their own code. Also it wasn't anyone who could be their rider's. They had to agree and there had to be a connection. Quite fascinating beings. I recall a huge war amongst them. They split into factions and nearly killed their entire race. They are powerful fighters and do not know the meaning of defeat. They will fight to the bitter death and not even consider fleeing to save their hyde.
The strange part is that they tried living in this world and like it here. It was here in this world thousands of years ago that the battle took place between them that nearly killed them all. At this time, humans were seeking to do the same to them. The alliance between man and dragon was ending and a new reality was stepping into this world.
These memories have always been very clear in my being since I was a child. So much so that I recall searching for them when I was 4 years old not realizing that I was in this world at this time and confusing my memories and knowledge.
As crazy as this must sound to many, I just want to say that I had these memories before I had time to experience life's nature vs nurture experience. Also there are far more things that we have experienced that we can't explain or understand, yet we have experienced them. There is a veil over this world that prevents the majority of the population from seeing what is truly there.
Well I would love to hear more and again I thank you for sharing. It's brilliant.
Originally posted by Asmus
As per Collier. The term he uses to describe them are "Andromedans" But if you really sift through his written material, they are actually called Zeneteans, (sp?)
Typically around 5-8 ft tall. The one he connects with is around 450lbs, like a greek god he says.
He says they are actually very skeptical of the pleidians because they have a lot of karmic history here, and they have done some not so pleasant things to us in the past, and some of them are still "rogue" and not all to be trusted.
Apparently, their council with different planetary races, didn't all really agree on coming here to assist us, for many different reasons. But they realized for the whole, something had to be done, and so decided to assist us. Primarily because they know we've been screwed with so much, and they themselves are getting fed up with the manipulation, but say ultimately we need to do the work ourselves, and if mentoring is asked for they would help mentor us, not babysit us.
I don't know if you are able to do any uploading/downloading with this, but hopefully that helps shed some more light onto it! I spent years researching him and is one of the only contactees I've ever trusted.
He makes it clear many times, that they are just one race, and it is just their perspective, they are by no means gods or know everything. In fact, they aren't even that much farther along than us.
Ok wayyyy of subject! Argh!
My next question would be: What do you see/feel coming down the line in immediate future, particularly the rest of this year and 2010. Personally, the new energy we are wading through now to me is immense, and things are changing so fast I have to sit back and clear my mind so I can keep up with and handle it all.
I've changed more in the past week than I have in the past month, and more in the past month than I have in the past few months, etc. It does seem to be very exponential.
Also, I am curious as to another thing: How quickly do you percieve Karma coming into effect for us now? It also seems to be speeding up.
Thank you again for sharing with us!
Be In Peace
Originally posted by Egyptia
reply to post by DragonriderGal
You have given me much to ponder DRG, many of the dots are coming together. I have always felt that this incarnation is nearly unbearable. I have felt alien in my own earth body and for those that don't understand this, I can explain.
I have memory of my former life and it's immortal qualities. When I came here, it was difficult from the moment I entered this body. This body and gravity feels so heavy and inefficient. I remember only eating for pleasure but rather drinking a substance that allowed my body it's full capacity of strength for weeks at a time. I remember being able to practically do anything with my mind. I remember that I spoke largely through telepathy, but when I did use words our language was powerful and almost musical. Few words were needed to manifest things and alter the energy around us.
I remember an absolute beauty and splendour that was utterly inspiring to the soul. What ever we built was magnificent and fed the soul directly.
I remember communing with animals on land and in sea. I remember we did not kill animals or eat of their sentient flesh. I remember much.......and have had to find a way to exist in this world in the prison of this body and in the prison of the memories of a forgotten yet unequivocally beautiful world. And because of this there is a sadness that I carry, yet I know that I must find a way to accept the here and now and find too a way to reach that which I must.
To this day I have to be careful of what I say or command. If I command something, no matter how terrible it always happens just as I speak it. So I have learned in life to hold myself back from any type of anger that would push me to do this. It's been like this since I was a child and I have been warned from psychics throughout my life. Every other ability seems dormant however. I know and feel them and always have but they only come out unconsciously, as though I cannot harness them.
As for the royalty lineage of old, there is quite the story there to tell. People often comment that to this day when they meet me. They often say they feel like I'm of royal kin but not in an egocentric way, just in what they pick up because I'm rather down to earth. I see pain and imbalance so the issue of ego is mute in my world. I have always believed that the responsibility of a royal lineage is to serve the people with justice and truth. Remove suffering, disease and starvation. Be a keeper of the world you are guarding and caring for and adhere to the highest code of existence.
But I do have to fight the urge to melt in the waters of the sea and forget this entire existence I find myself in. Perhaps if I did not retain so much memory this incarnation would be easier for me. But, I remember a great deal and I struggle in this body. I'm not used to the aches and pains and all eating a million times a day not to mention everything else. This must be for a purpose. ?
Is it common for people who are like this to feel like they are not permitted to commit suicide? I have always wondered about that because I have always felt that regardless how bad I want to leave this world, I cannot take that route.
Originally posted by Egyptia
reply to post by DragonriderGal
Very well put DGR, I couldn't even bear the idea of having to come and do this all again. Might as well hang in there and just go with the ride. In the mean time I pray that I do that which I am supposed to do, what ever that might be.
I think we are all in the same boat. Each one of us hopes that in the end we did what we needed to do. There is peace in that.
Thank you for bringing all this forward. It is truly appreciated.
Originally posted by Codazzle
reply to post by DragonriderGal
How long do you meditate before your aware of the spiritual plane?
As for the E-l*th their story is unfortunate, but bless their hearts for helping those who are less fortunate then they are, Ill have to remember to thank them personally.
Would you happen to have the translations for Earth and Atlantis from their native tongue?
Originally posted by FouL-LiveR
May I ask how exactly you got this information?
How do you connect in with the 4th dimension to get these messages?
Please don't say it's drugs or imagination. Out of the two, drugs would make the most sense, but that kind of discussion is not aloud on this board.
What exactly is it, that allows you to communicate with or see into the 4th dimension?
[edit on 12-10-2009 by FouL-LiveR]
[edit on 12-10-2009 by FouL-LiveR]
Originally posted by FouL-LiveR
You say you use drums etc, but is there any drug the shaman will give you to actually start the process? I don't see how drums alone could have you communicate with the 4th dimension.
[edit on 12-10-2009 by FouL-LiveR]
Originally posted by FouL-LiveR
How to distinguish between imagination and real messages?
What exactly do you do to filter out what is real, and what is simply imagination.
To me it just sounds like your writing a fantasy story, which I use to do all the time. It was pure imagination, how do you distinguish between what is imagination and what is real?