Bible Prophecy and the END of Human Government

NOTE!!! right up front I want to disclose that I am one of Jehovah's Witness. I BEG that you please NOT turn this thread into a JW bashing thread, there are enough of those circulating on both ATS and BTS. Please consider the information presented in an unbiased and unprejudiced manner. CIVIL discussion and criticism with biblical back-up is encouraged. Oh, and please watch both videos. THANK YOU!!!!


The end of human government.... the beginning of heavenly government







[edit on 17-7-2009 by holywar]

I think not just the human governments but also other alien governments in other star systems as well, including even those of parallel universes.

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Hi holywar/

There is no mention of a WORDLY government with God on earth?
It is not in SCRIPTURE!

Further more,Jehovas Witnesses have so many out dated prophecies that they themselves cant keep up with.
God is not WORDLY as He Himself stated!
People ONLY look for WORDLY matters and this is why Jesus Christ was Crucified...THEY wanted an earthly king all to themselves...

ICXC NIKA
helen

There is no Bible prophecy, it was the Roman Empire that order the formation of the Bible into a religious text for the population. Any prophecy originates from the Sumerian traditions and tales of Mesopotamia.

Caliph Uthman implemented the same standardisation of the Holy Qur'an too.

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Hi infinite/

You are mistaken that it was the Roman Empire!

The Old Tsetament was put together by 70 Hebrew and Greek Jews, called the ~SEPTUAGINT~THE Greek version of the Old Testament commonly known as the Septuagint (...) is a version of a Hebrew text earlier by about a millennium than the earliest dated Hebrew manuscript extant (916 AD), a version, in particular, prior to the formal rabbinical revision of the Hebrew which took place early in the 2nd century AD. (...)''
So, the later Bibles were deliberately mis-translated to FOOL the masses!
The Old and New Testament do not have any contradictions whatsover!
The only ones with the contradictions are those that were deliberately changed for their evil purposes.

ICXC NIKA
helen

Originally posted by infinite
There is no Bible prophecy, it was the Roman Empire that order the formation of the Bible into a religious text for the population. Any prophecy originates from the Sumerian traditions and tales of Mesopotamia.

except, most of the prophecies come from hebrew texts..

Originally posted by helen670
The Old and New Testament do not have any contradictions whatsover!

Really? Have you read both Testaments, without a minister giving you their interpretations. The Old Testament have alterations too, story of Lilith and Sophia are both removed; Solomon's sorcery that ordered a legion of demons to build the temple. Book of Daniel is altered too.

Of course, nearly all the Old Testament originates from Sumerian text.

And, after the conversion of Constantine the Great, the Roman Church did edit both New and Old Testament (for the record)

except, most of the prophecies come from hebrew texts..

The paranoid evangelicals focus on the New Testament and the revelations regarding the Anti-Christ (Gospel of Matthew) and the Revelation of St.John the Divine.

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Hi infinite/
You mean the Book of WISDOM?
Which interprets as SOPHIA in English?
I said in my last post that the SEPTUAGINT is the oldest Old Testament.
Did you bother to have a look at my link?
No, of-course you didn't!
The Old and New testaments were not altered by Constantine...total rubbish!
Do people actually read what the Early Christians WROTE?
If Jesus Christ gave authority to His Apostles to continue His work, dont you think that they knew what they were writing?
People need to stop reading HERETICAL teachings of satans work and read carefully what Jesus Christ says about the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!
Who are very much alive today!



ICXC NIKA
helen

Originally posted by infinite
The Old Testament have alterations too, story of Lilith and Sophia are both removed;

actually no, lilith and sophia were not "removed", they were stories that were added to jewish folklore much later

Solomon's sorcery that ordered a legion of demons to build the temple.

right...

Book of Daniel is altered too.

there is literally one reason scholars think this. that is because daniel is accurate and that sort of thing jusy isnt possible without god.

since to them god isnt of much consequence, daniel HAD to have been altered.

Of course, nearly all the Old Testament originates from Sumerian text.

where do you get your information from? bob's big book of bible origins?

just compare the sumerian creation myth with the bibles. they are very different.

The paranoid evangelicals focus on the New Testament and the revelations regarding the Anti-Christ (Gospel of Matthew) and the Revelation of St.John the Divine.

but they have to draw from isaiah and daniel as well especially since they are quoted alot in the NT

Originally posted by miriam0566
just compare the sumerian creation myth with the bibles. they are very different.

Errmmm...have you read them or just been listening to the God channel all day?

Creation myth, Adam and Eva, original sin and Cain and Abel have similar (if not identical) origins in the Sumerian myths. Also, isn't this Egyptian god story familiar...

Horus - Sun God of Egypt, born on December 25th of the virgin Isis-Meri. Had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water. After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and resurrected

actually no, lilith and sophia were not "removed", they were stories that were added to jewish folklore much later

Erm no again. Scholars have pointed out that Genesis leaves hints towards folklore that was exempted from the Bible. There are countless ATS threads of the subject...

We could spend hours debating the idea of two Gods, seeing Gods personality is completely different in the Old Testament compared to the New. Gospel of Judas claimed Jesus came from the true God.

People need to stop reading HERETICAL teachings of satans work and read carefully what Jesus Christ says about the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!

helen670 many Christian sects wrote teachings, which Constantine and his Church selected for the Bible. Heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Christianity in Ethiopia (where the ark is believed to be held) still has the Gospel of Mary Magdalene in their Bible.

And Satan didn't write the work...early Christians did.

Roman merged Christianity with traditional pagan events and holidays to make the transition more easier.


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Hi infinite/

many Christian sects wrote teachings, which Constantine and his Church selected for the Bible. Heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Christianity in Ethiopia (where the ark is believed to be held) still has the Gospel of Mary Magdalene in their Bible.

You as many others are mistaken about what or who Constantine stand for!
Have I heard of the dead sea Scrolls?
Yes, of-course...Dead sea Scrolls~
The Ark of the covenant was for The Old Testament!
Whoever it may be, it is not a requirement of the New Testament...for all was fullfilled ,that had to be fullfilled, by Christ the Lord.
Ethiopian are Orthodox Christians who DO NOT have any Gospel of Saint Magdeline!

ICXC NIKA
helen

EDIT...TO ADD ~A little on The Ark of the Covenant~

[edit on 7/23/2009 by helen670]

Originally posted by infinite
Errmmm...have you read them or just been listening to the God channel all day?

id reply, but you apparently dont know enough about the subject to make any sort of intelligent reply.

watching zeitgeist doesnt make you an expert

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by miriam0566
just compare the sumerian creation myth with the bibles. they are very different.

Errmmm...have you read them or just been listening to the God channel all day?

Creation myth, Adam and Eva, original sin and Cain and Abel have similar (if not identical) origins in the Sumerian myths. Also, isn't this Egyptian god story familiar...

Horus - Sun God of Egypt, born on December 25th of the virgin Isis-Meri. Had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick and walking on water. After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified, buried for 3 days, and resurrected

actually no, lilith and sophia were not "removed", they were stories that were added to jewish folklore much later

Erm no again. Scholars have pointed out that Genesis leaves hints towards folklore that was exempted from the Bible. There are countless ATS threads of the subject...

We could spend hours debating the idea of two Gods, seeing Gods personality is completely different in the Old Testament compared to the New. Gospel of Judas claimed Jesus came from the true God.

People need to stop reading HERETICAL teachings of satans work and read carefully what Jesus Christ says about the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN!

helen670 many Christian sects wrote teachings, which Constantine and his Church selected for the Bible. Heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Christianity in Ethiopia (where the ark is believed to be held) still has the Gospel of Mary Magdalene in their Bible.

And Satan didn't write the work...early Christians did.

Roman merged Christianity with traditional pagan events and holidays to make the transition more easier.


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You just can't talk to some people. They have an idea in their head with their entire lives wrapped up in that idea. Let them be. Brainwashed and unable to conceive that their "stories" are all made up, borrowed or distorted, they will not hear anything to the contrary until life itself falls upon their hard heads.

Bible prophecy is the blueprint for man seeking dominance over man.

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Hi /

Why do you say ENTIRE lives?
Do you know each and everyones entire life?
Why do people assume they know what, when and how each person has lived their life?

Should I attack you with the same as which you attacked ?
I dont think you will like it!
So please,dont attack a post within a post!
Thanks!

ICXC NIKA
helen

Originally posted by Hazelnut
You just can't talk to some people. They have an idea in their head with their entire lives wrapped up in that idea. Let them be. Brainwashed and unable to conceive that their "stories" are all made up, borrowed or distorted, they will not hear anything to the contrary until life itself falls upon their hard heads.

Bible prophecy is the blueprint for man seeking dominance over man.

keep telling yourself that its all made up. if it helps you sleep at night, then more power to you.