Mysterious, Glowing Clouds Appear Across America's Night Skies

reply to post by Discotech


Uhm, it predicts a new era, birth of the 6th sun.
The 5th Earth is to emerge in that time, I cant remember the years, but I think we are 'between' worlds right now, or that started 2011.

Any ways, maya calendar consist of three calendars that have their cycles and end in difrent times, years, but, the kicker is that 21.12.2012. all three ends at the same time, and that is the first time in 25000 years.

Scary Ahh... !! What you think ?
Sun acting hulahoop and maya say birth of a new sun !?

Also,the fourth seal hints to this I think..just to preach crap !

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reply to post by Discotech


I wish people would stop propagating this incorrect information. The Mayans also had predictions which went along with their calendar, and those predictions somehow managed to survive the burning of most of their other literature by the Spanish. From a NASA site:

Solar Physics by Marshall Space Flight Center
The Maya/Aztec calendar, which is extremely accurate, began on August 13, 3114 B.C.E1 or 4 Ahaw 8 Kumk'u in the Mayan language. The Maya concept of time was of circles within circles which only appeared to be linear. The calendar stone shows that we are in the fifth creation, with the four previously destroyed ones surrounding the central figure.  The end of the fifth creation of the Maya calendar is on December 23, 2012 of the Current Era (C.E.2).

The Paris Codex contains the Prophecies that go along with each katun of the Mayan Calendar:

The Paris Codex (also or formerly the Codex Peresianus) contains prophecies for tuns and katuns (see Maya Calendar), as well as a Maya zodiac, and is thus, in both respects, akin to the Books of Chilam Balam. The codex first appears in 1832 as an acquisition of France's Bibliothèque Impériale (later the Bibliothèque Nationale, or National Library) in Paris. Three years later the first reproduction drawing of it was prepared for Lord Kingsborough, by his Lombardian artist Agostino Aglio. The original drawing is now lost, but a copy survives among some of Kingsborough's unpublished proof sheets, held in collection at the Newberry Library, Chicago.
Although occasionally referred to over the next quarter-century, its permanent "rediscovery" is attributed to the French orientalist León de Rosny, who in 1859 recovered the codex from a basket of old papers sequestered in a chimney corner at the Bibliothèque Nationale where it had lain discarded and apparently forgotten. As a result, it is in very poor condition. It was found wrapped in a paper with the word Pérez written on it, possibly a reference to the Jose Pérez who had published two brief descriptions of the then-anonymous codex in 1859. De Rosny initially gave it the name Codex Peresianus ("Codex Pérez") after its identifying wrapper, but in due course the codex would be more generally known as the Paris Codex.
De Rosny published a facsimile edition of the codex in 1864.

So according to their predictions 2012, is in fact the end of the 5th creation. Basically the end of the world.

Originally posted by Dorfl
I don't know if we are passing through a dust cloud in space.

Yes we are, and have been for like 2 million years.

reply to post by defcon5


How is it incorrect information when it's open to interpretation, the end of the 5th creation is far too broad to automatically assume it means the end of the world, it could mean anything at all. Just because you want to take it as meaning the end of the world does not mean it will be the end of the world and as I have said and am correct there is no prediction of the end of the world, just the end of the 5th creation.

Even IF humans got wiped out it doesn't mean the world will be destroyed. So please do not get all uppity if people post things relating to the Mayan Calendar which is a different interpretation to what you subscribe to!

Interesting ideas on interstellar dust. Since no-one really knows what's causing these glowing night clouds, I decided a bit of Googling might come in handy and I found this old story in Space.com:

Threefold increase

The number of interstellar dust grains increased from four per day, per meter in 1997 to 12 per day in 2000, Landgraf said. The results were announced earlier this month. He expects the rate to stay constant until 2005, and then increase by another factor of 3 prior to 2013.

The potential effects are not well known, according to Landgraf and his colleagues at the Max-Planck-Institute.

"Generally interstellar dust is not considered a problem, as it does not penetrate typical spacecraft structures," Landgraf explained in an e-mail interview. "However, due to the high impact velocity, sensitive high-voltage instruments can suffer a short circuit after an exceptionally big impact. Also, sensitive optical instruments have to worry about the erosion of polished surfaces."

-snip-

It's also possible, Landgraf said, that the eerie Zodiacal Light -- a "false dawn" caused by sunlight reflecting off space dust -- will be enhanced.*

-snip-

"The time of the entry into the G-cloud is unknown, but is expected to occur any time in the next 10,000 years," Landgraf said. "There will be a constant increase [in dust rates], because the G-cloud is more dense than the local interstellar cloud that is now surrounding our Sun."

www.space.com...

*bolding mine

reply to post by Dorfl




"They first appeared in the late 19th century? Thats funny...I didn't know we had global warming in the 19th century... "


Uh, I hate to tell ya this -but- "this globe" has been warming since the last
Ice Age ended

From spaceweather.com

NLCs INVADE THE USA: On July 15th, a wave of intense noctilucent clouds (NLCs) descended over the continental United States. "They were bright enough to see over the city lights of Seattle," reports Bob Harrington, who has been watching the skies of Washington for 46 years, and "this is only the third time I have seen a display like this."

Coincidence ?? Any connection??
www.abovetopsecret.com...

i got some pics i 'll try to get them formatted right.
great thread star n a flag

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reply to post by randyvs


What time ?

It looks just like a normal evening sunset, living on the coast I'm lucky enough to see some beautiful ones.

Still yet to see these noctilucent ones although it's been cloudy for the past couple of weeks

reply to post by axiomuser


See them quite frequently 55 degrees latitude here.

Are more noticeable on summers evenings.

I have no theory, waiting for them to get the research completed.

Source: www.youtube.com...

Funny song, but there are some great pictures of Noctilucent clouds

Interesting related post. Check it out: www.abovetopsecret.com...

It may only be a coincidence but on this day with the anomaly we had a large earthquake in New Zealand . It may also be a coincidence that this day the first in seven days where the magnetopause standoff finally moved above a geosynchronous orbit that the shuttle Endeavour finally was able to lift off . And last but no least it may be just a coincidence that through this extended event we have seen noctilucent clouds dip pretty far to the South at latitudes lower then 40 North.

10mins before the earthquake in china



Toys you can build

Another opinion of these clouds:

Source: www.examiner.com...

The solid case here is that whatever warming we may have witnessed in the past 100 years (and even that is up for debate because of bad sensors and poor guidelines for instrument shelters and data recording), the trend has shifted, and all the CO2 in the world…and there’s plenty of it…is not having nearly the effect that some will have you believe, and new studies show that it may be a non-factor. In fact, we also know that many warming cycles came before increases in CO2, not after, and that CO2 levels have been magnitudes greater in the past than they are today.

Let’s stop trying to force the CO2 piece into the puzzle. It doesn’t go where we’re trying to put it. Step back, and take a longer look, and with time, the picture will become clearer, and maybe, someday, the puzzle will be complete.

reply to post by masqua


The only issue I have with the dust idea is that the phenomena wasn't reported prior to the 1800s.

Contrast that with the fact humans have been watching the skies for thousands of years, reporting sunspots, eclipses, comets and other weird phenomena.

One would think in the past 3000 years these clouds would of been reported at least once, especially if it was dust.

Originally posted by masqua
I look for them every night if it's clear.

Well sometimes they look back at you

I am sure YOU will appreciate this one




As to all those laughing up the Climate change...

In a land very far away... where it is very cold... some Russians decided to drill a hole down to a fresh water lake that had not seen the light of day for 420,000 years. They stopped when they found unknown microbes in the ice cores... seems there was concern about the wisdom of releasing unknown microbes from 1/2 millions years ago into our environment



Well the thing is the ice core samples did give us something useful... a completely accurate record of Global temperatures for the last 415,000 years

Based on this study I have put a wood stove into my house in Vegas and laid in a good supply of firewood, blankets and parkas...

Here is what the ice cores say... forget global warming... buy Parkas



Politicians may lie... ice core samples will not be denied

Odd thing is there is usually a pronounce period of warming just before the dramatic fall

We have had more clouds here in Vegas than normal almost daily when its normal clear skies 90% of the year... Temps are in the hundreds... but less hot days in a row this year and have not met previous highs...

I think I will chop another cord of wood

Originally posted by zorgon
Politicians may lie... ice core samples will not be denied

Interesting!

And what may I ask was mans contributing factor to all the previous warming trends pre ice-age ?

Originally posted by Discotech
And what may I ask was mans contributing factor to all the previous warming trends pre ice-age ?

Well obviously there MUST have been past civilizations like Atlantis that we are unaware of I mean we had the mini ice age in Medieval times which gave us the invention of the fire place and that obviously warmed things up enough



Ummm where did I say Man was at fault in my post?

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Originally posted by zorgon
Ummm where did I say Man was at fault in my post?

You didn't It was more a question to those who still believe that climate change is caused by man and nothing to do with the sun and a natural cycle

Originally posted by Discotech
You didn't

Ah okay then... carry on Got your parkas yet?



As to the clouds... Not Always Sly Answers (NASA) has a gallery of them



www.spaceweather.com...

[edit on 18-7-2009 by zorgon]