UFO and ETs encounter with 62 children in South Africa, 1994

Who is this "Ariel" that keeps popping up in those drawings. Are the aliens dressing up as Disney characters? If so they better be careful or they will face the most terrifying force in the universe, Disney attorneys.

There is a BBC4 radio documentary about John Mack (the interviewer at Ruwa school). The documentary is called Abduction, Alienation and Reason and is from 2005 after his death. I have not listened to it all yet but so far it's quite interesting.





Original source here.



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reply to post by zorgon


There has been a lot of terrestrial goings on in Africa and why has

Neill Blomkamp made his latest movie based on aliens there.
Has he got some inside information on the phenom he is portraying in his new Alien movie.



I had a thread on this regarding the movie .

and here is trailer 2

This is such an interesting and compelling story that should be investigated further, unfortunately though I feel this thread will be led to twist and turn into another direction and then fall by the wayside.



"THE WORLD IS GOING TO END"

why do you think that is

"BECAUSE WE DON'T LOOK AFTER IT"

did they say this to you

"NO I JUST FELT IT"

Anyone else getting frustrated at the rate we are evolving? does anyone else feel like they have been born on this planet 30 years to early? when will we learn that HUMAN BEINGS are not the be all and end all in this particualr universe.

SLAVES TO THE NATION

I'm so glad someone posted this again. This is one case the skeptics will never debunk, for me that is. I just don't see how you get that many children to say the same thing and never waiver. I could be wrong but I don't think those children had access to alien movies, internet, or were even aware of that UFO's exist at all. I read in an old thread that there was going to be a documentary on this, anyone know about that ?

S&F OP!!!

this proves to me one thing. those being watched have purpose other than being just children

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The new documentary is called "Encounter in Ruwa", it's not out just yet but I believe is in the final stages.

Not watched it yet but here is a 20 min documentary on it.

video.google.com...

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Thank you!!! Will you post the release date if you hear about it? I can't wait to see it. I bet that even if it is the most convincing story ever published, the MSM will not carry anything about it. I also wouldn't be surprised if someone came forward to discredit the story and the children, you know, that they saw swamp gas reflecting off of Venus, or a weather balloon with talking monkeys, no wait, talking crash dummies.

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I have all the release dates for every country for district 9. would you like me to post them.

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I think the reason it never caught on was because

-Well, there was never any evidence
-It was by a bunch of kids (they also believe in the tooth fairy). So, it could have been just some short squatty people that said they were aliens...or monkeys in suits..etc (ok, sounds wonky, but you get what I am saying...was there a avonics research lab closeby that did tests with animals, etc)
-It was in Africa...Africa is sorta backwoods.
-The MSM ultimately is interested in evidence and government words now, they tend to find individual accounts tedius.

I remember watching this video ages ago, and people were generally commenting more curious how there was white kids speaking english in Africa than what they were saying...I think there are more earthly hurdles for the mentality of the population to get over before they hit onto the core issue of ETs. I mean...they were having trouble accepting british education down south.

I wish people would really pay attention to the remarkable cases...but they dont. People generally like to feel clever, and so going over a fake video and showing how they debunk it = ego stroking and so more attention is bound to be paid. Showing something truely off that they cannot explain makes them feel inferior..that hurts the ego...and you know how us humans are with our fragile ego.

Meh, give it 25 more years and maybe a mindset change will happen again...go back into trying to understand new things verses dismiss them by default.

Good thread. *+F

reply to post by zorgon
well, there was a 1984 event in the Philippines that was very similar. Plus, a gov't agency went and investigated the incident and declared they have no explanation for it.

UFO ROUNDUP

Volume 5
Number 39
September 28, 2000
Editor: Joseph Trainor
UFO Roundup and the UFOINFO site are operated on a "Not For Profit" basis.




PHILIPPINES RELEASES SECRET UFO FILES
"Now it can be told."

"A team from the Philippines Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA) has admitted actively participating in the investigation of what is known as Close Encounters of the Third Kind."

"UFOs or unidentified flying objects, in particular, Elmer Escosia, team leader, team leader, said they opined files to reveal what they discovered so far instead of keeping the information to themselves."

"'Our files and records are open to the public and anyone can read or research,' Escosia told the Manila Times.

"The team, he said, is composed of eight members under PAGASA's Astronomy Division, which was assigned to investigate UFO sightings in the country," i.e. the Philippine Islands.

"According to Escosia, they were able to explain most of the UFO sightings from all over the country, which were reported to PAGASA."

"But, he admitted, they were stumped and found no logical explanation for three such sightings."

"The first was in 1984, or 16 years ago, when children reported that they saw 'bulbous-non-human beings' alight from a large, disk-shaped 'spacecraft' which landed in Ormoc City in western Leyte."

(Editor's Note: Ormoc is a port city on the west coast of Leyte Island, located about 640 kilometers or 400 miles southeast of Manila, the national capital. Ormoc was the site of a ferocious battle between the Imperial Japanese Army and the U.S. Army's 77th Division in September 1944 during World War II.)

'It was impossible not to believe the children's testimonies since they gave the same descriptions,' Escosia said."

"He added they sent the description of the 'aliens' to other investigators in the USA who appeared to be similarly stumped."

"The two other unexplainable sightings were in Las Pitas and Muntiniupa City in 1997 and on May 10 of this year (2000)."

"In 1997, Escosia reported, at least 400 people reported that they saw 13 odd-shaped flying objects that were clearly visible in the following subdivisions: Uranium Street, Pilar village, Las Pitas" (and) "Dona Josefa, also in Las Pitas, and Heroes Hill in Muntiniupa."

"The eyewitnesses described the UFOs as transparent and hollow at the middle, closely resembling a school of jellyfish minus the tentacles." (See the Manila Times for September 14, 2000, "Three sightings of UFOs aliens stump PAGASA astronomical experts," by Jeannette Andrade. Many thanks to Rev. Billy Dee for forwarding the newspaper article.)

ufoinfo.com...

I'm petty sure I saw a big thread on this before...

??

Edit: here's a couple of threads I found.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Originally posted by SaturnFX
I think the reason it never caught on was because

...was there a avonics research lab closeby that did tests with animals, etc)
-It was in Africa...Africa is sorta backwoods.

I found your remarks strangely offensive ... I have noticed more hoax and plain wrong UFO and Alien encounters originating from the USA and UK than from Africa.
I found more backwards people in everyday America than I find in my day to day life in South Africa.

Yes, it is true that these were ordinary school kids from a rural school in Zimbabwe (not South Africa btw), so yes they are not the most worldly of witnesses. This, however, may be a point in their favour - they were not influenced by Hollywood and TV (not to say that they don't have TV) as we and our children are.

The late Cynthia Hind, one of South Africa's most respected investigators did a fairly in-depth study of this case, and concluded that this was indeed one of those rare UFO cases that defied explanation.
Ruwa

Even if the children made this up, the psychological aspects are fascinating and worthy of investigation because it may give us more insight into the world of child group dynamics regarding the unexplained or unknown. In other words, what would be the factor or factors that caused them to make up the story (reminds me of the Salem witch hunts when the children cried "Witch!").

I do remain on the fence on this story ... but, crazier things have happened.

Here we are not to Salem. Here we are not in the 17 century.
Here not there is the "Santa Inquisizione". There are not Torture.
I think that those children have seen this about which they speak and that they are very reliable witnesses.
I do not believe that bizzarre child group dynamics they can create such a synchrony and precision in the declarations.
If he had been something inherent one to the "group psycology", on 62 children it would have been at least ONE that would have said that it was all inventing. A joke. A false one.
The authority of the headmaster, the teachers and the investigators who are taken part in mass would have made to yield someone of they.
But it has so not been: ALL have confirmed what THEY HAVE SEEN!
They are 62 WITNESSES WHO HAVE SEEN what they describe.

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
I have noticed more hoax and plain wrong UFO and Alien encounters originating from the USA and UK than from Africa.
I found more backwards people in everyday America than I find in my day to day life in South Africa.

Oh, I agree with you on that..I was talking about general western mindsets about Africa as a whole (except for my friend the Nigerian prince I am helping out leave his country with his money...he is splitting it with me btw)

South Africa...really isnt part of Africa imo.

And yes, the fact that these kids arent saturated with all sorts of sci-fi movies and hype does give them more credibility. as I said, I would love for this to be taken more seriously...but, come on now...Brazil, Mexico, Uraguay, England, etc... are releasing UFO files...the government is...and even those are being ignored.
Some schoolkids in Africa have no chance of being heard if people wont even listen to governments.

I offend people...its what I do, but the actual offense is that the views shared holds a element of truth to it. Its really just a observation of psychology more than a statement of belief.

reply to post by zorgon


It is definately possible that this happened but it is also possible that these children were told a story! I'm not saying it's a lie but i'm not saying it's the truth either.....

Again there is no evidence of this happening..... I will keep an open verdict only because i have seen & felt things myself....

After looking over the children being interviewed (in the original two clips), I can honestly tell you that they were being lead.

(1) Watch their eye movement when responding to questions. Some of them look like they are reading from a card, or they are being visually cued to answer in a certain way. Other words, something is happening off camera to get the children to respond in a specific way.

(2) Listen to the questions being asked. The interviewer is leading them with the questions.

Psychology is somewhat of a specialty of mine, so it was easy to pick up on this fraud experience. Thanks for the videos.

Interesting note: If you listen to how the teacher and students describe the alien encounter, you will notice they are not talking about the Roswell Grays.

(1) They wore black.
(2) Their eye slits are rounded near the nose, and then they are stretched into a point towards the ears.
(3) They had long hair.

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www.youtube.com...

After I looked at the above linked clip, I think they lead each others story. Never-ever put children together into one room, and then ask them a series of questions. Their imaginations played off of each other. Chances are they saw something, but it wasn't an alien or spacecraft.

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THE NUMBER:... 62...!!!

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Oh, I agree with you on that..I was talking about general western mindsets about Africa as a whole (except for my friend the Nigerian prince I am helping out leave his country with his money...he is splitting it with me btw)


I offend people...its what I do, but the actual offense is that the views shared holds a element of truth to it. Its really just a observation of psychology more than a statement of belief.

Fair enough, I do understand and agree with what you were trying to say. But darn it, where is the link to YouTube? These kids don't know nutting!

You must know the same Nigerian price that I do ...

I get offended ... its what I do. It comes from being blamed for all of Africa's troubles (as a so-called colonial)

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