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We got caught with our pants around our ankles.
Originally posted by C-JEAN
If the new investigation is WELL made, HONESTLY made, made by
the RIGHT persons, the results WILL NOT be the same.
Originally posted by bsbray11
There is a reason people want a new investigation.
If we get the same crap then something is obviously wrong.
Originally posted by defcon5
Sound like a cult?
You got it…
Despite this, I fervently believe that there are many people on this site that are simply wishing to learn more about the events. Many of them have great hatred of George Bush and similar politicians, and I can't fault them for this. Believing that Bush et al were behind the attacks is easy, and it fits with their existing hatred ala Confirmation Bias. It can take a lot of evidence to realise you're wrong in this case, but it does not mean you are closed minded or ignorant.
Despite all the new office funds, the lecture tour funds, the DVD sales, the signed poster sales etc etc I have yet to see a "911 new investigation fund" that has achieved any significance whatsoever.
Originally posted by defcon5
Truthers will never be happy with anything less. Their minds are already made up, and there is no arguing logic, fact, or anything else with them.
Originally posted by defcon5
I wish they would just shut down the 911 forum on this site
Originally posted by defcon5
anyone who opposes anything that they say is wolf pack attacked until they give up.
Originally posted by defcon5
they will not accept any verdict but the one they have already made up in their minds.
Originally posted by defcon5
To be honest, I am so sick of this topic
Originally posted by defcon5
It seems to be the Truth movement folks who have their lives and egos wrapped up in this, not me.
Originally posted by defcon5
Believe me I have seen all the truth movements facts, and theories. Many of them are based on incorrect speculation, inaccurate facts, questionable witness testimony, and assumptions
Originally posted by defcon5
So those aircraft most likely had full tanks of gas, not empty ones.
Originally posted by defcon5
I don’t know where you worked at, but we had fuelers who did nothing but run around all night long ballast fueling aircraft.
Originally posted by defcon5
You have acquired the holy grail of the truth movement…The whole thing was a scam started by a few people to make money
Originally posted by esdad71
what will happen if the same results came back from a left wing jury, will the case then be closed?
Originally posted by exponent
Ae911truth is another candidate, with a bewilderingly wide array of quite expensive finance options, which seem designed only to pay Richard Gage to travel the world and speak at conferences full of people who already believe him.
Originally posted by impressme
Do you ever get tired of repeating your same old tired rant over and over? This thread is not about what you think TRUTHERS are or what they THINK or whom you think they are angry with, because you don’t know.
If you think most 911 truthers stand behind your sad uninformed comment in the above statement I got News for you, they don’t.
I think it is pathetic that some of the OS believers have resulted into attacking and ridiculing instead of presenting any evidences to prove the OS is true. Funny, how most of the people who do all these nasty insulting and ridiculing are mostly the OS supporters. One has to wonder?
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Maybe because we have logic and fact on our side?
Since 3 WTC buildings collapsed through the greatest resistance at or near free-fall speed
first responders saw explosions and flashes going up, down and around the towers, then its safe to logically assume the buildings were brought down with explosives.
If fire could do the above, then demo companies would save loads of money by not having to buy explosives or pay a large team to prep a building and set the explosives.
Originally posted by esdad71
Also, it was and is not NIST's job to find the final answer to why they collapsed but to find options to make sure that something like this will never happen again.
Originally posted by esdad71
I do not mind when you question me as a person (LSAT)
Originally posted by esdad71
or call me a government agent
Originally posted by esdad71
You make me laugh how you push your evidence into your breakdown
Originally posted by esdad71
I feel that the majority of you are very narcissistic in the way you think and it borders on sociopathic.
narcissism -
Excessive love or admiration of oneself.
sociopath -
A person who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
Originally posted by esdad71
Again, I ask a simple question and want a simple answer and an explanation. If there was another investigation, and there was no evidence found of the governments involvement, what would you do?
Originally posted by exponent
Nor did they fall at 'near' free fall speed.
Originally posted by exponent
Tell me BoneZ, how slow should the buildings have fallen?
Originally posted by exponent
Ok, lets assume this is true for a minute, the only materials we have which would match this description are typical high explosive linear shaped charges.
Originally posted by exponent
These charges produce in excess of 120db at a distance of several hundred metres. Can you point them out on any of the videos taken of the collapse?
Originally posted by exponent
I'm sorry that you are resigned to never being able to accept 911 for what it was BoneZ, but at least you wear your bias for all to see.
Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by esdad71
Also, it was and is not NIST's job to find the final answer to why they collapsed but to find options to make sure that something like this will never happen again.
That's the easy part: don't let people put explosives in buildings. It's really not that difficult.
Originally posted by esdad71
I do not mind when you question me as a person (LSAT)
Had you not misspelled simple legal terms, I wouldn't have questioned you. But if you scored high on your LSAT as you claim, misspelling simple legal terms more than once makes one wonder.
Originally posted by esdad71
or call me a government agent
I've never once called you or anyone else a government agent. Please show a link that I have done as much or I'll have to point out your dishonesty.....again.
Originally posted by esdad71
You make me laugh how you push your evidence into your breakdown
I guess that's a good thing that all you can do is laugh because you nor anyone else has been able to debunk the evidence.
Originally posted by esdad71
I feel that the majority of you are very narcissistic in the way you think and it borders on sociopathic.
narcissism -
Excessive love or admiration of oneself.
sociopath -
A person who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
Those both are the total opposite of what the 9/11 truth movement stands for and wants to accomplish. I think it's your denial mode kicking in which makes you attack us instead of the evidence, which you've not been able to debunk.
So, you might be able to imagine what type of person it makes you look like to attack others and call them names instead of sticking to the evidence. Denial disorder anyone?
Originally posted by esdad71
Again, I ask a simple question and want a simple answer and an explanation. If there was another investigation, and there was no evidence found of the governments involvement, what would you do?
And you were already told that a truly independent international investigation would not turn out the same verdict.
But to just play your game, if the same verdict came out from an international investigation, I guess we'd have to accept it and move on no matter how much we disagree. At least that would be my stance. Happy?
Originally posted by jprophet420
You think because you can debunk CT's you can prove the OS?
This is a pathetic attempt at logic that fails miserably.
I will debate any of you anythime and absolutley own you. We will debate the OS rather than any particular CT and see how well the story holds up.