Marrs, Sitchin, and a possible 2012 connection?

reply to post by bowlbyville


The only possibility that I can assume is that being made in their image we have the possibility of their abilities. Not too enlightening, I know, just conjecture based upon several different readings.

reply to post by Chemley


Now THAT was insightful.

I've gotta get some sleep, so I can get up at 0:dark-thirty and be back surfing the web

Good talking with your friend, and thanks for the conversation; will check back tomorrow

cheers!

Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by Chemley

 

I think in regard to what you were just talking about, we have to be careful to not attribute extraordinary importance to possibly ordinary events.

Ahh, yes. I agree with this statement. My argument(s), although I did not intend to make them here, stems from culmination of many different experiences and sources. To be more clear, more or stronger earthquakes, tornadoes, tsunamis, planes crashes, bollides, asteroids, shuttle delays, crop circles, calls for a NWO, underground bases, underground seed vaults, rising land, land ripping apart, governments failing, strange flu, floods, droughts, famines, etc. do not by themselves indicate anything. Taken separately, and safely compartmentalized, nothing to see here, move along. In cumulative, in my opinion, a little different story. Likely one for a different thread...

Thanks

Jim Marrs rule by SECRECY

page 379 continued:

Sitchin and others have simply take the attitude that perhaps the ancient Sumerians were putting down on their clay tablets history...

So, is it fanciful to consider that this race of people were just recording history how they understood it? I consider it a possibility (probability?)

After years of dedicated translation and study, Sitchin realized that the biblical Nefilim and the Sumerian Anunnaki represented the same concept-that in the Earth's most distant past, beings came down from the stars and founded the earliest civilizations, a theme which has run through nearly all secret societies, from Freemasonry to the Thule Society, as previously reported.

Could this be the secret? It would make sense to me. Large population control by an "unknown" god? Who knows

Ok, going to hold of for a night, until more posts hopefully show up...

reply to post by Chemley


I haven't really read much of the comments, so I hope I am not repeating..

If you are interested in this, I would highly advise you to read 2 books that are from Sitchin himself...

1) The 12th Planet (goes riiiiiight along with this)

and

2) The Wars of Gods and Men

both are from the Earth Chronicle series..

I mainly say to read those because, especially in the books of Sitchin I read, he included pictures of a lot of Sumerian stuff.. and all of their statues etc of the Nephilim are depicted as space beings..

Though if you read it and believe it, according to Sitchin, Planet X (Nibiru, 12th planet... whatever you want to call it) will destroy Earth.


(edit) The planet Nibiru is depicted by the Sumerians as the 'Destroyer'.. It already tried to destroy earth, and caused the gap in the earth (why most continents are on one side of the earth) and that the moon was to protect. Next time the planet is to come back, it is going to hit earth.. and well let your mind wander from there hah

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reply to post by Dearheart


actually, I think what he was saying is not that the world would be destroyed, just changed like it has in times past (like causing the great flood, lots of lives lost, etc etc)

Could be wrong, but that's what *I* got out of what he had to say

reply to post by Chemley


Again, read the book The 12th Planet..

according to the book (which is by Sitchin).. the Anunnaki were beings who came from Planet X to 'vacation' in a way on earth.. While here they had a lower ranking 'men' (which were the Nephilim) and had them do physical labor for them.. digging up resources and so forth.. eventually the Nephilim refused.. so they all came up with a plan to create a working man that would do the labor for them.. and thus came us *humans*.. We were genetically manipulated from a species already on earth that impregnated one of the female Anunnaki.. after a few tests we were thus created...

Originally posted by Jomina
reply to post by Dearheart

 

actually, I think what he was saying is not that the world would be destroyed, just changed like it has in times past (like causing the great flood, lots of lives lost, etc etc)

Could be wrong, but that's what *I* got out of what he had to say

I think it depends upon how difficult the passing is. If there is a passing

Originally posted by Dearheart
reply to post by Chemley

 

Again, read the book The 12th Planet..

according to the book (which is by Sitchin).. the Anunnaki were beings who came from Planet X to 'vacation' in a way on earth.. While here they had a lower ranking 'men' (which were the Nephilim) and had them do physical labor for them.. digging up resources and so forth.. eventually the Nephilim refused.. so they all came up with a plan to create a working man that would do the labor for them.. and thus came us *humans*.. We were genetically manipulated from a species already on earth that impregnated one of the female Anunnaki.. after a few tests we were thus created...

I could and actually, I may. Marrs goes into some of this in his book, and I may get there although it looks unlikely given the number of participants here.

reply to post by Chemley


Hi Chemley,

I'm a firm believer in Sitchen. This man was probably more knowledgeable about the Sumerians and their tablets than the rest of the world put together, even including today. Sitchen studied that stuff for supposedly 50 some years and that is a lot of studying.

I'm pretty sure the Star Gates were discovered because of Sitchens work. Supposedly the discovered Star Gates are dismantled and the three major parts are kept in totally different areas at the moment until after 2012 passes by. I wonder why? It's stated that they cause some sort of attractive force to something out there in space. What is it that is out there that our governments don't want us to know about?

Ivan "Ivon" Stein on "Timeline To 2012" on Youtube covers some of this stuff of your thread. Anyone interested can go here:

www.youtube.com...

Anybody interested in the Star Gates can go here:

www.youtube.com...

There is lots of stuff on Sitchen here:

www.youtube.com...

This stuff is all very interesting, but only time will tell who is right and who is wrong about all of this conjecture. The Sumerian tablets outdate the Bible and we know the Vatican didn't bury the Sumerian tablets and we know that the Vatican has lots to hide with their own death squads hunting down people that bring evidence to light contrary to what the Vatican wants people to believe so that they can remain in power.

Famous UFO personage Billy Meier and another man discovered the "Talmud of Jmmanuel" in 1963 and the man transcribing the documents, Isa Rashid, was killed and a major portion of the "Talmud of Jmmanuel" destroyed.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.youtube.com...

Excellent thread my friend.



[edit on 15-7-2009 by RussianScientists]

Thank you for your contribution, I recommend "Ivan "Ivon" Stein on "Timeline To 2012" on Youtube", it is an interesting watch. Sitchin is an interesting fellow. He seems to laugh off the planets arrival in 2012 and points to the hysteria surrounding it in 2003. That miss, certainly did burst some bubbles!

Well friends, it does get more interesting. And as I am bored, let us look at a little more:

From Jim Marrs rule by SECRECY

page 380:

...more than four billion years ago, Nibiru... entered our solar system, narrowly missing a large planet called Tiamat, which cracked due to the gravitational stresses.

I guess this could be one explanation for the asteroid belt

In a subsequent pass by Nibiru-in Sitchin's early works he refers to this orb by its Babylonian name Marduk-Tiamat was actually struck and then bombarded by Nibiru's attendant moons... the other half of the planet was knocked into a new orbit closer to the sun. This fragment over time coalesced into Earth. It was accompanied by one of Nibiru's moons (Kingu) which became our own satellite.

I have seen it written that our moon seems to be the incorrect mass, size, whatever, but somehow wrong to be a "natural" satellite. I don't know enough to do the math here but this might be an explanation. I also know that the moon is drifting away from the Earth every day. IMO there may be a connection here.

I remember hearing about the moon drifting away, as well. Something about an inch a year. Supposedly, we'll eventually be knocked off our axis and wobble every which way.

Here's a video on If We Had No Moon (Part 1 of 5).

Now, I wonder. If Nibiru is real, and will swing by close enough for it to affect our planet, what are its chances of stealing our moon?

Excellent thread, very interesting thanks!

I thought it was a great book truly awesome.I do think he should have look further into Stitchin's work.He supposibly even admitted he should have.

Sitchin is a completely unreliable translator.

If you really want to know about the Sumerians etc., look to the books by Joseph Farrell that touch on Giza or on Cosmic War. He uses translations that all agree upon as legitimate and he brings the story up out of the confusion with which Sitchin clothed it.

There was also a lovely old Englishman who names escapes me now; his wife's name is Joy ... Barbara Joy O'Brien ... now it comes... his name the late Christian O'Brien -- Wrote splendid books and put forth a very credible theory that the platform at Baalbek was part of Kharsag or the biblical Eden.

reply to post by Chemley


it is actually the 3600 years or 1 sar cycles why the circa 2012 was zeroed in. and ZS was able to at least note that yes there were upheavals within this planetary movement that sometimes brought up and down civilizations even prior to the sumerian civvy. only sad to note that there where more ancient civvies much older than the sumerian,greek and egyptian that perished and subsequently tagged as myths...planetary movements are proven to influence the movements our planets just like the moon's movement affect our planet's oceans.so this 2012 as ZS book of 12th planet is not the doomsday but a mere repetition of a celestial routine.it should be enough for us all to be wary. but it seems that only the PTB wants to make sure their control and superiority to ordinary men will be their sole domain andkeep this reality to be dessimated.an echo of Noahs story? when enki save mankind from the onslaught of nibiru?

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