Finally, I got it!

Originally posted by thereaintnospoon
Did you read Conversations with God?

Originally posted by Mumbotron
Have you been studying Alistair Crowley or something? That's where it sounds like you are going with this. Go join the O.T.O., if you don't already have "it", I'm sure you'll catch it from somebody.

Nope and nope!
I've heard of God and Alistair Crowley, they sound like interesting (problematic) entities, but I'm not a follower of anyone. I lead myself. And I am the most interesting (problematic) entities of them all.

Originally posted by Geladinhu
That was superb!
Really, what a wonderful poem!
Star for you, my friend.

I really think I nailed it. They all float down here. It's just so, and so it goes.

Item titan.

Getting back on topic..

Empty and Marvelous

The opening words of the oldest Zen poem say that

The perfect way (Tao) is without difficulty,
Save that it avoids picking and choosing.
Only when you stop liking and disliking
Will all be clearly understood.
A split hairs difference,
And heaven and earth are set apart!
If you want to get the plain truth,
Be not concerned between right and wrong.
The conflict between right and wrong
Is the sickness of the mind.

It is the first principal in Taoism that

When everyone recognizes beauty as beautiful,
there is already ugliness;
When everyone recognizes goodness as good,
there is already evil.
"To be" and "not to be" arise mutually;
Difficult and easy are mutually realized;
Long and short are mutually contrasted;
High and low are mutually posited; . . .
Before and after are mutual sequence.


There is no need to reply to this Alex OP, and in case you didn't fully "get it" it's not all about you, but about us, about "we".

reply to post by pitchdragon


This person appears to have it also!

May it be contagious..

reply to post by Geladinhu


If you really believe you are the most interesting being, not only is that evidence of an antisocial personality disorder but you limit your ability to understand things that are greater than you, like it or not there are such things.

reply to post by Mumbotron


It looks like he's associating "interest" with "problematic," so I would have to agree with him, the most problematic thing is always yourself, no matter who you are. And problematic things ARE interesting to the mind, because the problem is usually that we do not understand them.

Originally posted by Mumbotron
reply to post by Geladinhu

 

If you really believe you are the most interesting being, not only is that evidence of an antisocial personality disorder but you limit your ability to understand things that are greater than you, like it or not there are such things.

Indeed there are such things.
And as you said, "like it or not" they will still be there.
I like and dislike a lot of things, actually, I like and dislike most things (yes, at the same time).
But I can't do anything about it, that's just the way it is.
And I'm fine with however it is.

reply to post by Mumbotron


But there are no things per se, and nothing outside the no-self self or the no-mind mind, just what is or "suchness", and from what I can tell, it has a certain cuteness or whimsical nature, but the realm of the distinctionless subject-object non-duality IS the most interesting thing there is and the only thing, and it is openly available for unending exploration, although it cannot be fathomed.

That said I always like to think that the whole thing is like a dance between a lover and a beloved other, and that exploring our mutual mystery is the game, and so from the perspective of any "self" leaving self behind to listen to another, is the greatest act of love and compassion.

Once seeking has ended for one's self, then it's time to seek out our mutuality, by getting really curious about other people.

Yes, there seems to be a selfish quality to his silliness, and to be honest, it's starting to wear a little thin, though I have no doubt that he got something, now, perhaps he needs to unget it, and unget his own self amuzement with himself, which has a certain immaturity to it, like a kid who's completely satisfied having just gotten what he wanted most for Christmas. Then again, he just got it not so long ago, and strikes me as a young person, and hey who am I to judge.

This is still goin' on?!
Madness! Absolute madness!

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Madness?

Madness?


THIS! IS! SPARTA!!!



/ sorry couldn't resist.


Yes, it's still going on.

reply to post by bvproductions


I've never more thoroughly enjoyed a conversation about nothing.

It's just SO important too! Seriously!

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
reply to post by Mumbotron

 

But there are no things per se, and nothing outside the no-self self or the no-mind mind, just what is or "suchness", and from what I can tell, it has a certain cuteness or whimsical nature, but the realm of the distinctionless subject-object non-duality IS the most interesting thing there is and the only thing, and it is openly available for unending exploration, although it cannot be fathomed.

That said I always like to think that the whole thing is like a dance between a lover and a beloved other, and that exploring our mutual mystery is the game, and so from the perspective of any "self" leaving self behind to listen to another, is the greatest act of love and compassion.

Once seeking has ended for one's self, then it's time to seek out our mutuality, by getting really curious about other people.

Yes, there seems to be a selfish quality to his silliness, and to be honest, it's starting to wear a little thin, though I have no doubt that he got something, now, perhaps he needs to unget it, and unget his own self amuzement with himself, which has a certain immaturity to it, like a kid who's completely satisfied having just gotten what he wanted most for Christmas. Then again, he just got it not so long ago, and strikes me as a young person, and hey who am I to judge.

May I say what is in my mind?
I believe it can help you.
Maybe it wont be straight forward, but I enjoy messing around.
I think you know too much, Omega.
Time to forget.



Oh, and I have a question.
A spiky question.
Is Alex a good candidate for the Anti-Christ?
This NWO is taking too long to happen.

What is the meaning of life?

There is no meaning.



Actually, there could be.

1. It's not all about you, or us.
2. You'll only know when you "get It".
3. You can "get It" if you want it more than you want to live.
4. It will always remain shielded from those that don't "have It"
5. Those without It, must/will attack those that have It.
6. It is forever, once received. I know why you run away.

Originally posted by Geladinhu

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
reply to post by Geladinhu

 

Would it be fair to say that you "got" that there is nothing to get ie: that you already have it and had it all along?

I think I've gotten it before, but have been working hard, probably too hard, to really get it this time!

But if Buddha and all them are right, there can be no striving, no doing, to "get it".

So is the "it" you got, just to clarify, that you are everything, and that it's all in you already, and that therefore, there is nothing to get, nowhere to go, nothing to do, and nothing to worry about, since it's all here now? Is that about right?

That is absolutely right. There is nothing to get.
We are all just babbling around, pretty much what I would call "doing art".
Let's be creative people! woohoo!

Welcome to the club! Congratulations on a step out of the self perpetuating cycle of duality. Welcome enlightened one.

Originally posted by Geladinhu
Oh, and I have a question.
A spiky question.
Is Alex a good candidate for the Anti-Christ?
This NWO is taking too long to happen.

Sorry, it's been done already.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

You're a late comer, although the last will be first and the first, last (to be first to be last to be first).

You just pulled up a chair to the universal round table.

It's not a duality of Christ-anti-Christ, and the great war has already been won.

If you have a job to do, I think it's to be the fool, so as to make certain that nobody takes themselves too seriously any more.

So you can be the anti-Serious Alpha and Omega of humorous existence, if you want..

Can you feel it, see it, hear it today?

If you cant, then it doesn't matter anyway

You will never understand it cuz it happens too fast

And it feels so good, its like walking on glass

Its so cool, its so hip, its alright

Its so groovy, its outta sight

You can touch it, smell it, taste it so sweet

But it makes no difference cuz it knocks you off your feet

You want it all but you cant have it

Its cryin, bleedin, lying on the floor

So you lay down on it and you do it some more

You've got to share it, so you dare it

Then you bare it and you tear it

You want it all but you cant have it
Its in your face but you cant grab it

Its alive, afraid, a lie, a sin

Its magic, its tragic, its a loss, its a win

Its dark, its moist, its a bitter pain

Its sad it happened and its a shame

You want it all but you cant have it
Its in your face but you cant grab it

What is it?
Its it
What is it?
Its it
What is it?
Its it
What is it?

-Faith no more
-EPIC

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
It's just SO important too! Seriously!

It would be hard for me to even say that with a straight face (even though it's so true!), there are so many people here who are so bewildered by all the apparent nonsense.

And if we tell them it IS nonsense then that just turns them off even more!

I like watching what happens though. Right now we may be sitting around in lawn chairs enjoying a drink but here in a few there must be someone who will come along and screw with it. I just hope they do a good job -- so we can have more fun.

[edit on 12-7-2009 by bsbray11]

I didn't read much of the replies on this thread, but I don't know maybe someone would find it interesting that everything is perfect.

reply to post by TurkeyBurgers


That's awesome, very apt for this discussion.

Originally posted by OmegaPoint

Originally posted by Geladinhu
Oh, and I have a question.
A spiky question.
Is Alex a good candidate for the Anti-Christ?
This NWO is taking too long to happen.

Sorry, it's been done already.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

You're a late comer, although the last will be first and the first, last (to be first to be last to be first).

You just pulled up a chair to the universal round table.

It's not a duality of Christ-anti-Christ, and the great war has already been won.

If you have a job to do, I think it's to be the fool, so as to make certain that nobody takes themselves too seriously any more.

So you can be the anti-Serious Alpha and Omega of humorous existence, if you want..

Oh, man, can't believe I'm late.
How disappointing!
WHO MESSED WITH THE CLOCKS?