hi guys i live in italy too and its all about what the other italian dude said.
For the guy that said somthing about CIA , does the CIA have power world wide? i mean its in italy i dont tking they have the rights to come to a non
american country the # things up...
That doesn't stop them, the CIA is a powerful international entity that can work with other intelligence groups as well, so they could be working
with Italy's.
Thanks Internos, I suspected such and sent an email to ask for resolution. We'll see if I have to contact my provider. In the mean time I'll depend
on others observational intel.
Originally posted by xSHINIx
does the CIA have power world wide? i mean its in italy i dont tking they have the rights to come to a non american country the # things up...
In fiction and Internet Conspiracy Land the CIA is everywhere doing everything.
On Planet Earth they're an intelligence agency of the US government.
It does have this 'pretty wild so it can't be true' buzz about it indeed.
However, aren't just those stories often true?
I haven't got a clue wether this video is fixed or not. It's all hear-say and a story of the female. They come up with quite some 'evidence'
though.
Yes, I do know that ALL evidence can be fixed too but don't we just have to let our gut, our instincts guide us the way to believe or not?
Three things in this story strike me:
1) I believe that the female Giovanna (?) is CONVINCED she is been abducted and being used for her womb (uterus). The story is believable when one
considers Aliens testing / cross breeding with humans. Then they simply need a female (hormone-responsive) reproductive sex organ.
Hmmm, makes me think of the Bible .... Genesis .... "and the Gods slept with the females on Earth, this was in the erra of the Giants"
Kinda funny isn't it? Them Aliens / Gods in need of reproduction cannot do without a female womb. Seeds enough but no 'life-growing' container!
Seeds enough like in nature.
2) The aborted Fetus. It looks real to me. I'm not a doctor just a female who had a spontanious abortion in summer 1991. The fetus was 11 or 12 weeks
old and I remember I could see his eyes and the tiny body covered with something that looked from a distance like plastic.
Human fetusses are fully formed in the 7th week. They have huge heads, a tiny body, tiny arms and legs with a huge umbilical cord. The facial
feautures are human with eyes, ears,a nose and lips. The arms are small with tiny fingers. Btw fingers grow from the plate/like hand in teh 5th and
6th week.
That fetus with placenta in the vid can very well be real. No one can tell, apart from doctors who do some tissue-tests and DNA tests, if this indeed
is the real thing.
3) In the vid they mention the Silicium (silicon) substance as not originally being from Earth.
As being a high value quality of 98% Silicon.
Oxygen is the most common element on Earth, Silicium (Silicon) is the runner-up. en.wikipedia.org...
However Silicon isn’t found anywhere on Earth in values of that high percentage. To make it as pure as 98% will cost one a fortune.
Some years back I suffered from very ‘low energy’, my whole body-system was weak, my whole immune-system was as good as gone. A very close friend
of mine gave me some Silicium (Silicon) grains that he received from R. Boerman. Robert found them on a Crop Circle site in Brummen, The Netherlands
in 1997. He gave my friend a bunch which he (my friend K) kept in a jam jar in a cupboard. www.ufowijzer.nl...
The grains were tested and found to be 98% PURE Silicon. I still have some of those grains in my possession.
So for me this fetus story very well can be true. Maybe it’s not but it is a very plausible and possible story IMO.
Hallo!
I'm from Italy and I've seen both the videos.
I must tell you that there is a big discussion among the various italian ufo communities about these videos and the general opinion is that we are in
front of a huge fake.
Hints are that the fetus is a rabbit and that the fluorescent substance is just some cheap paint.
These conclusions come from the fact that nobody is giving real proofs of what they are showing in the video: no medical exams of the fetus, no
chemical exam of the dust.
Since there seem to be some people who are from Italy and even from where this woman lives perhaps someone can contact all the people involved and
inform them that inquiring minds would like some actual laboratory and medical testing to be done? Really I do not see how these people can expect the
general public to take it seriously without hard evidence. Personally I tend to believe hybridization is occurring, there are too many cases worldwide
for it to merely be some fad or mass hypnosis. However when someone like this goes to these lengths to bring it into the public eye complete with
video and supposed evidence such as a fetus and strange substances they need to get laboratory tests done and then release that data.
Mistero, the show in question, talked about the case again: there's another part of interview plus a shaky video showing an alleged flying saucer
which actually can be litterally anything, (including my cat with a series of lights tied together and caught on tape while catching flies), and a
short footage of an alleged grey allegedly smuggled from area 51 NOT related to the case.
After 18 alien pregnancies all we have so far are unclear images of stuff that can be anything, allegations, claims; while the only clear stuff is
more consistent with a rabbit than anything else, but this CANT be verified since the fetus gone LOST.
The anchorman obviously did NOT appreciate the complaints that came, during the last week, from researchers who wanted add their two cents to the
story, but the biggest paradox is that according to his construction, the more one is sceptic the more he's ignorant: and believe it or not, this
comes from someone who knows absolutely NOTHING about UFOlogy (he's a singer).
The story is being presented by that show in some incredibly bad researched way, and pieces of evidences completely unrelated to the story have been,
every now and then, added to the mix, it's not clear why yet, perhaps because of the lack of real evidences, in order to fill in the gaps. The only
source are the claims of the woman, crappy images, a nice shot of a rabbit (which is NOT CGI for sure) and the argument of those who are endorsing her
story is that "they believe her" which is not exactly the standard of evaluation that you would expect from some serious researcher. I'm not saying
that they can't believe her, just saying that whether they believe her or not it doesn't matter.
There would be analysis reports stating that something anomalous was spotted in her Pituitary gland after a Computed tomography (too bad Radiocontrast
wasn't used: you know, as she explained, it could make EXPLODE the alien implant into her brain, [we all KNEW it, heck!]) and unfortunately the
doctor who made it is so far anonymous (WHY? Are you a doctor? What's the purpose to keep your identity hidden if all that you did was just your
work? Ah, perhaps is not the doctor's will to remain anonymous, perhaps the reason is that at the end of the report you can read "it is advisable to
get a Magnetic resonance imaging and some psychological consult"conclusion with which i agree after watching at the interviews (and there's
NOTHING wrong in getting some consults btw, it doesn't imply that someone is crazy, that could have been claimed during the middle ages).
Ah, she claimed to have known Michael Wolf on an
alien spacecraft (note the link is to a mirror, but i know where it was originally posted after her identity was verified with a video posted by
herself on her youtube channel /n3g7ae
)
Back to the rabbit, the biologist Gabriel Cunha notes that "because of the anatomy of the rear legs
it's obvious that this guy would walk (or maybe even walked) on four legs."
But since Giovanna is two-footed, and since according to herself the visitors were two-footed, then how comes that the resulting "human-alien
hybrid" IS obviously a quadruped?
Ah, i couldn't find a vet so far who told me that it was something but a rabbit OR similar, but maybe it's a matter of luck, try by yourselves and
please let me know.
In agreement with the rabbit explanation there are also Edoardo Russo ( C.I.S.U. - Italian Centre for UFO Studies - www.arpnet.it... ),
Massimo Polidoro (Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal - ( www.cicap.org... ) Luis Ruiz Noguez
(Marcianitos Verdes - marcianitosverdes.haaan.com...)
I would also like to point out, before i get misunderstood, that i'm not sceptic over the whole abduction phenomenon, on the contratry: actually,
there are several compelling cases, one of them occurred in Italy (and about which will soon be started a thread here on ATS), in which there are even
multiple and reliable witnesses, it's one of those cases that make you wonder.
But cases like this one, cast a bad like even on them: i've been waiting a week before expressing some more opinion, because i just wanted to wait
and see whether they would have shown some interviews to some of those who believe (and have reasons to) that the story is a hoax (and they aren't
just a few). I was also hoping that they would have shown the elements corroborating the the (more than just a) theory that what we saw is a rabbit:
since they have the power of a TV channel, they wouldn't have had any issue in finding some scientist able to debunk/confirm the rabbit theory,
right?
But NOTHING of this has happened: all this hammers to death the credibility of the story, which I now believe to be just yet another crock: i don't
even care whether she's deliberately lying or she's convinced of what she claims because at this point it doesn't matter, but as promised i will
try to get in touch with her, never deny some fair chance to anyone.
Something positive has happened after the first broadcast: many people called claiming to have experienced similar stuff, and also seeking for help:
and of course i can't even just claim that they are all a bunch of liars of crazy people, maybe within them there's someone able to share the real
deal, who knows? I, don't.
If I'm pregnant, that's MINE. I wouldn't be waiting around for someone to come get me for a forced procedure.
You cannot run and hide if you have been implanted with a receiver (I suspect of incredible global accuracy).
I have read about alien implants being - for want of a better word something like an RFID, only these implants give off a signal when embedded in
human tissue and ceases transmitting when it is extracted.
I guess you could cut it out of an arm or leg but what about the abduction accounts that tell of having an implant inserted up the nose and into the
skull?
There is no escape if you have something they want!
As to this strange Italian abduction story. I am on the fence but it is fascinating in any case and I hope it is fake, quite scary otherwise.
Hi, I add some news about this case that are some sightings happened during the interview of the abducted in the TV broadcasting, in these catchs some
objects shoot out to high speed, the videos in question are the followings:
there some discussions in Italy about that and someone has said that the objects are birds but these statements have been denied in fact it is easy to
recognize and distinguish birds from the objects in question with the following videos:
Honestly, it looks like a squirrel to me. I have skinned and eaten squirrel and this looks pretty close. The only issue is the shape of the head and
location of the eyes. Squirrels and rabbits have their eyes set more to the sides for better predator viewing angles. But to me it looks much more
like a squirrel than a rabbit.
We should also be looking at profit. If there is profit to be made then that is a big clue. Why else make a complete fool of yourself on TV if you
don't profit from it. Is this person going to write a book or get paid for her interview?
From the alien abduction research perspective....this seems to be a hoax. Witness reports of being used for alien/human hybrid programs commonly
report this scenario. However, the fetus is supposedly removed at a much much earlier stage of development and placed into a media solution filled
tube for further physical development. Reports generally talk of very small objects. They also report that the fetus at that stage is extremely hard
to distinguish from a human. The head is the largest and most pronounced feature. This feature is completely missing in this scenario with the head
being very small or average 'Earth' species size.
I'm thinking Hoax. The pictures are really good though. I especially like the head shot of the adult alien. Witness reports indicate the grey species
has leathery skin with wrinkles which is unlike most f the drawings and other pictures you normally find of them. In this case the picture does seem
to be pretty accurate even if it is a hoax.
Considering the time and cost involved in modeling a alien headshot you would think there would be other hoax pictures of the same likeness out there.
If you were to create this hoax head would you not feel a bit upset to waste it on a crazy person (possibly) like this? I wonder if the same headshot
has been used in other possible hoaxes.
I do not believe a word of this story. In my opinion we are presented with a sick hoax, largely because you do not report that a woman has aborted a
human/alien hybrid phoetus alongside some questionable footage of said footage - you report that you have independantly verified repeatable DNA
analyses of an aborted pheotus that is not fully human. Similarly you do not report that aliens have left a fluorescent radiation shielding liquid in
somebodies home alongside some photos of what might as well be fluorescent ink, you report that you have independantly veri.......blah blah blah I'm
sure you get the idea.
I just don't buy it at all.
look guys... if this is a hoax we'll soon find out! There is a 'body' , there are photographs... and a witness... there are many reliable ways to
substantiate the claims. No use in everybody screaming or hopping the fence in either direction.