A Closer Look: UFO releases intelligent moving spheres!! First ever video footage!

reply to post by TheMythLives


Well this was certainly needed to sort out that monster of a thread. Good job Myth! I agree that the objects look suspiciously like balloons after seeing one of the clips, although that does not mean balloons are the definite answer. CGI seems more likely, or a combo of balloons overlaid with CGI. I did not think it possibly could be balloons at first, but the video you showed brings the option back for me. I am still 50/50, real or balloon/CGI. The motion of the objects do match up extremely well with the motion of the balloons in the clip, but there are also certain motions that don't match up.

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Caramba..

I would say the simple testimony by the guy who took
the video, is far more convincing, besides the footage
itself, then any of these futile attempts, as
displayed on this thread, to make people stop to think
for themselves.

'Don't trust your own gut feeling, listen to me and
let me put you safely back on the track of "denying
ignorance".'

The approach has indeed turned stale, nor has it
proven to be very effective.

In any case,

Soon the truth about UFOs will be publicly admitted.

Momentum.

Look up in the sky.

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reply to post by jkrog08


Thats so true. I would say its probably a mixture, because the way the objects are. I could be totally wrong and it could be just CGI, but I think its a mixture of both Thanks for you input Krog always appreciated.

reply to post by Sol12


What is that you posted?

reply to post by TheMythLives


I'll post a thread later on.

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reply to post by Sol12


cool. Look forward to it. I was just wondering what it was that you posted. looks like some sort of filter with the sun in it... I was just curious

reply to post by TheMythLives


Me too.



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Originally posted by Sol12
reply to post by TheMythLives

 

I'll post a thread later on.

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Hi,

I have started a thread containing the footage.

I'm not sure if these videos have already been posted.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Wow. Why does it have to be balloons? Why does it have to be CGI? Can it not just be a UFO, something totally unexplainable that IS NOT within your line of thinking and current understanding of your Ego-verse? I don't understand why skeptics go through so much trouble to provide laughable explanations for things they don't understand, when it would be so much easier for everyone if they would simply say, "I have no idea what in the hell that thing is, maybe alien, maybe not, but I certainly don't have all the answers." Sometimes, with these ridiculous explanations, or attempts at anyways, the improbable and fantastical is certainly more believable and possible than what is attempted to be put forth by people who simply can't accept that they might not know everything they believe they know.
I'd go so far as to say that even if ET did land in your back yard, and kick you in the scrotum, you'd still be hell bent on classifying their species as Chinese Lanterns, or Swamp Gas just to save face and have some semblance of the delusion that you are always right.

Can't be Balloons, if you were to assume that then you would have to also assume that the larger object in the middle releasing the orbs is also a balloon which by the way never deviates because of the supposed wind sheer. Plus the objects being released are traveling in two totally opposite directions on a very straight path. I don't think wind sheer could explain it all away.

Hm. I admit I don't even know what CGI is, and not sure these are balloons, but it certainly does not look like a UFO.

This thing doesn't even seem to be moving under it's own power. It's being tossed around, flapping in the wind. lol. (yes, flapping. It's soft.) The shape changes.

And spheres? What spheres? I see some little dots that are at the mercy of this thing...moves how it moves, seem to be "snatched" away with it.
Spheres? Don't see them. Looks like some kind of camera problem to me, thus the jerking movements of them..along with the larger one's movement. They move along with it with too much precision at times.

And this: it's not logical. This would have been a major disclosure if they chose to put on this type vivid display in broad daylight over a populated area. This would qualify as a no question -- in-yo-face announcement "we are here." People would have been astounded and maybe a little hysterical. IMO.

I guess I am rather disregarding the eye witness account. But it's a little hard to swallow.

To choose between a UFO and balloons, I will go with the balloons.
Good presentation here. Thanks for the information.

[edit on 8-7-2009 by ladyinwaiting]

I posted this in the original thread but I feel it has strong relevance here.

Given the forces involved in such a rapid, complex and managed deployment I believe the balloon theory still has a lot of holes. I challenge anybody to come with a reasonable recreation. Despite the technical hurdles, the expense of such a capable “balloon system” would be far beyond the practicality of a hoax or parade prop. We are talking about being able to loft at least two systems for deploying the balloons in opposite directions, advanced materials to handle the stress of yanking or firing balloons out at high velocities, in fast back to front succession while keeping their trajectory strait over great distances, and having whatever mechanisms for controlling their separation distances (which increases) just to start. How do you do that, and why would you bother when it would be orders of magnitude cheaper and easier to do some other exciting wizz, bang effect?

I’ve spent a good many years designing all types of cutting edge technology. I have also spent those years studying what other technological achievers have been up to and able to accomplish and I believe I have a pretty good grasp on what is possible now and in the near future given where we are technically as a species. I am open minded to the possibility that I may miss the mark to some degree and that there may be some slightly surprising technical achievements that have happened recently but the devices in this video would be very special.

reply to post by TheMythLives


not sure if you saw ZG's reply.. here for a in depth analysis vs CGI personally, based on ZG's view, all i know at this point, it's not a balloon or CGI.

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by TheMythLives

 

not sure if you saw ZG's reply.. here for a in depth analysis vs CGI personally, based on ZG's view, all i know at this point, it's not a balloon or CGI.

Im agreeing here, and ty Komodo, ZG's analysis is important. I commend Myth for trying to bring truth, though,

I know how it was done, watch the video posted below and you will see that after the plane has gone past the film cuts to a new piece of sky where a very out of focus object (some sort of balloon) is being spun on a wire or rope probably very close to the ground but with the camera shooting from below to give the illusion of hight.The main central object can be seen to wobble on its axis as it is spun hard and then small balloons are pulled out of both side at the same time.Then we cut to a new piece of film where balloons are released and jostle around in the up draught much the same as other videos shown on this thread. So there is you answer it was made in Three Parts 1 the plane 2 object spinning balloons pulled out, 3 balloons released into the air . Simple

Please watch the film carefully to see what I mean as it is better than the original and gives the process away.



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[edit on 8-7-2009 by tarifa37]

S+F: Great thread - bit more room to breathe and share ideas in this one

I think that a kite/balloon object is a good candidate in this case and I will repost my thoughts from the original OP:

I think that the best course of action is to eliminate all earthly possiblities before jumping too hastily to the ET conclusion.

There are several issues with the video as it is. We do not have a complete , uninterrupted account of the event. The video provided has several splices and could appear in a different order. The solution here would be for Jaimie Maussan to provide the whole video for public scrutiny.

Something that needs to be worked out is the actual size/distance of the object. At 2:14 in the video the object actually looks like a 2" square piece of material snagged on a wire and flapping in the wind!

Another thing that is bugging me is the focus. Unless the object is massive and much further away than the plane, the question is why is it always more out of focus than the plane and any other object, i.e. buildings, in the video. He does run through the focus but never reaches the clarity that is achieved when focusing on the plane or the buildings.

Leaving the ET conclusion to the side for now, the main earthly contender, IMO, is a balloon/kite object so it would be fantastic to eliminate this option from the mix. What would be great would be to get the opinion of some balloon/kite manufacturers to find out if they have ever witnessed anything like this before. It is very unusual but not impossible to be of earthly origin IMO.

If it is a balloon/kite object then, among other things, it could be a scientific instrument, a party balloon/kite, a homemade experiment or it could be an object purposely constructed to create a UFO hoax.

There are many reason why this could be a hoax, Pedro Hernandez is not new to UFO sightings, as mentioned before, he could be an ET-magnet, live in an area of high ET activity or he could be putting food on the table for his family. I am sure Jaimie Maussan paid the witness for the video.

Whatever the motive we can still examine the object separately.

A possible explaination:

The object could well be balloon/kite tethered to the ground. We do not yet know the size or distance of the object so we do not know the height. It could be 400ft or 4000ft. I do not know so anyone with some experience in this dept. is more than welcome to provide an answer

The object could be pre-loaded with mini balloons/kites. It has been mentioned that the objects formed a perfectly straight line. The problem with this (potential) red herring is that the straight line effect is only seen for a very short period in the video before crashing out in different directions. Water from a water pistol forms a straight line. This being the case then it could be that the mini-balloons/kites are shot out of each end using some from of ballistic device that could be controlled remotely by mobile phone or set by a timer. The speed would ensure that a straight line would form for a brief period of time.

I am not claiming to know what it is. I have no idea. I am just offering up ideas for discussion - please don't shoot me - it could be ET, balloons or a very good CGI hoax. One thing I do know is that the ATS crowd will come up with the goods one way or another

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch

Originally posted by Komodo
reply to post by TheMythLives

 

not sure if you saw ZG's reply.. here for a in depth analysis vs CGI personally, based on ZG's view, all i know at this point, it's not a balloon or CGI.

I'm agreeing here, and ty Komodo, ZG's analysis is important. I commend Myth for trying to bring truth, though,

Your welcome. ! I agree with you on Myth as well, I think it's very important that we get some well documented video footage for balloons as a control unit.

Myth,
if I missed telling you this before, since I should be in bed by now *grin*..thanks for bring this to the light as there are alot of view leaning toward this angle.

To me, I just dont' see in your footage where balloons fluidly shoot out from both directions from a single source horizontally and in perfect alignment and spacing from each other in a matter of 2 secs. NOW, the floating around each other in the OP certainly looks like balloons no question there.

but I truly think what has every one baffled is the instant ejection of ALL the spheres at one time from both ends, not so much of the floating around. Which REALLY is still my total focus.

thanks for the effort to bring this to the front! GJ !

reply to post by skibtz

The object could be pre-loaded with mini balloons/kites. It has been mentioned that the objects formed a perfectly straight line. The problem with this (potential) red herring is that the straight line effect is only seen for a very short period in the video before crashing out in different directions. Water from a water pistol forms a straight line.

This being the case then it could be that the mini-balloons/kites are shot out of each end using some from of ballistic device that could be controlled remotely by mobile phone or set by a timer. The speed would ensure that a straight line would form for a brief period of time.

Yes i would agree with you on the point that we need to stick with early origin even though my mind screams ET! (just from personal exp )

Interesting you mentioned the kite/balloon combo, haven't thought of that either. I guess it could be possible that some sort of water jet is causing the straight line effect.

Another thought I have is.. "if this is a hoax, the videographer will definitely need a private island to get to quick because there's gonna be alot of #$%$ ppl !! LOL I couldn't bring myself to do this to ppl and second even If I did, i would be scared &)*less for the beating I'd be getting in Mexico!

If this object is FULL of balloons, why did it not shrink? I mean..come on!!!!! If it was full of 50 balloons, 25, however many, its going to shrink in size!!!!

Obviously, it didnt.

I really don't think it's balloons. Nor do I think it's CGI.

So based on the above it must be a UFO....because I haven't got a bloody clue what it is!

It doesn't have to be CGI or balloons, we're just trying to make things fit. Until someone recreates the same thing with ballons or someone analysis the orginal video, I'd say we have a nice clip of something we cannot explain with our current understanding.

Once you are witness to something that you cannot understand or explain, you see these clips in a new light. You know that it could be balloons, you know it could be CGI, but you are also fully aware that it could be something else, something that no one can explain.