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Chemtrail weapon, the firsts ?

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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Hi, armamant fans.

See that :

www.youtube.com...

Could this be the results of the first (secret) chemtrails, used as weapon ?

In those days 1994, chemtrail where not very "talked about". . .

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 13 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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reply to post by C-JEAN
 

Any one did see the video ?
Was that program a good source ?

Could 1994 be almost the first chemtrails experiments ?
( over the clouds, of course ).

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Hi. chemtrail fans.

Don't you find it bizarre that the usual "negators" are not
here to explain what is right or wrong with this stuff
that fell FROM THE SKY ??? B-)

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Here, I'll just go ahead an put this here so you don't miss it again...


That is about something called “Star Jelly”, believe it or not. I have never heard of it before, but it has been around a lot longer then airplanes and contrails, so it cannot be related to it. It seems to be something more akin to Raining Frogs or Fish...


Star Jelly

There have been reports of pwdre sêr (Welsh for rot of the stars) for centuries. A long article in the paranormal magazine Fate declared Star Jelly to be of extraterrestrial origin, calling it "cellular organic matter" which exists as "prestellar molecular clouds" which float through space.[citation needed]
The Book of British Amphibians and Reptiles (page 138) author M Smith, explains that Star Jelly is most likely formed from the glands in the oviducts of frogs and toads. Birds and mammals will eat the animals but not the oviducts which, when they come into contact with moisture, swell and distort leaving a vast pile of jelly like substance sometimes also refered to a Otter Jelly.



Raining Animals
Raining animals is a relatively rare meteorological phenomenon, although occurrences have been reported from many countries throughout history. One hypothesis that has been furthered to explain this phenomenon is that strong winds travelling over water sometimes pick up creatures such as fish or frogs, and carry them for up to several miles. However, this primary aspect of the phenomenon has never been witnessed or scientifically tested.
The animals most likely to drop from the sky in a rainfall are fish and frogs, with birds coming third. Sometimes the animals survive the fall, especially fish, suggesting the animals are dropped shortly after extraction. Several witnesses of raining frogs describe the animals as startled, though healthy, and exhibiting relatively normal behavior shortly after the event. In some incidents, however, the animals are frozen to death or even completely encased in ice. There are examples where the product of the rain is not intact animals, but shredded body parts. Some cases occur just after storms having strong winds, especially during tornadoes.

The Jellyfish description certainly seems to fit the closest to what happened. My second guess would be crap from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, considering that it occurred in Washington.

Great Pacific Garbage Patch
The Eastern Garbage Patch has one of the highest levels of plastic particulate suspended in the upper water column. As a result, it is one of several oceanic regions where researchers have studied the effects and impact of plastic photodegradation in the neustonic layer of water. Unlike debris which biodegrades, the photodegraded plastic disintegrates into ever smaller pieces while remaining a polymer. This process continues down to the molecular level.
As the plastic flotsam photodegrades into smaller and smaller pieces, it concentrates in the upper water column. As it disintegrates, the plastic ultimately becomes small enough to be ingested by aquatic organisms which reside near the ocean's surface. Plastic waste thus enters the food chain through its intense concentration in the neuston.


Either way its not related to contrails or “chemtrails” or this crap would be falling everywhere, which is not happening. Interesting video though.



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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Hi, defcon5 and all.

I had a good laugh !
"prestellar molecular clouds" a new one ! B-)
"Raining animals" we all know what that is !
"plastic particulate " yeahhh, with
??? Human white blood cells ???

That stuff got people SICK ! !
That stuff got animals DEAD ! !
That stuff was said to be: **. . .that goooo was alive. . .**

Planes where around, over the homes ! !
Denied AS USUAL ! !
Persons even think: ** Germ warfare **

Don't forget: ! Human white blood cells !
I like your sense of humour !!

READ CAREFULLY:
Don't forget: ! Human white blood cells !

EDIT to add the read !!

Blue skies.

[edit on 2009/7/22 by C-JEAN]



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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OK, points taken, but...

Even if it were the military, they cannot control the rain.
The location is near the Pacific Ocean.
Fish falls normally happen in locations near the body of water.
One of the scientists in your video said it was jellyfish.
Jellyfish contain biological material.
Jellyfish can make people both sick and dead, depending on the species.
This has happened before, with the first indication going back to at least the 1600's.
No aircraft existed in the 1600's.

See the problem with ascribing this to chemtrails?...



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Hi, chemtrails fans.

See how well "one" avoids to talk about the
**HUMAN WHITE CELLS**, found by the HOSPITAL, in the "goooo" !

As I said: "Nice sense of humour" !
Sooooo NO DEBUNKING HERE yet, right ??

We may have found one of the first experiments done by
the "b*st*rds" doing the chemtrails today ! !

Why?/who?/what are **HUMAN WHITE CELLS** doing in there ??
I'm waiting. . . . . .

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 22 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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For the same reason that Hepatitis has been found off the coast of Florida in the Gulf of Mexico:

HAV has also been found in samples taken to study ocean water quality.


White blood cells can be shed through either urine or feces, and those can end up in the ocean either through run off, or leakage of sewage/septic systems.

Seawater can maintain White Blood cells, and other cells for a substantial amount of time, as it is very similar in composition to the body’s internal conditions. In fact seawater has been used to replace the blood in animal tests:


Seawater is so close to our bodies' internal environment that if white blood cells are removed from the body and placed in a sterile seawater solution, they are able to maintain normal cell function for up to five weeks, this is the only solvent that will accommodate cellular activity.



Seawater and blood plasma have a very similar chemical composition. So close in fact, white blood cells continue to live in seawater whereas they die in any other medium. These elements found in seawater act as catalysts for vital body functions.



Partial drainage of blood - Intra-organic injections of seawater, via saphena vein, using normal adult dogs.
A first group of experiments was conducted where a volume of 66% (EXPERIMENT 1 not related here), 81% (EXPERIMENT 2 not related here) and finally 104% (EXPERIMENT 3 - see below) of a dog's body weight was replaced, over a period of fixed time, with a corresponding amount of isotonic 9‰ seawater.

Finally, (EXPERIMENT 4 - see below) a small dog was injected with 9‰ Marine isotonic plasma at three varying rates and reactions were observed and recorded.

The main discovery was that as long as the rate of injection kept pace with renal elimination, no traumatic reactions were encountered.


So if there was a waterspout, and large quantities of seawater were taken up to rain down later, these cells would be in that water.

Now tell me, why would the military want to put white blood cells (the cells that fight infection) into a weapon that is supposed to transmit an infection?



posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 06:52 AM
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Hey, I saw the clip, and the Air Force may have blown up a jelly fish ?
And it was up in the sky for three weeks ?? Sure why not, naturall thing!










This one is showing Chemtrails in the face of the Primeminister of Norway here in Oslo.....



posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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Why?/who?/what are **HUMAN WHITE CELLS** doing in there ??

The naturall explanation would be that the jelly fish ate a human before the air force bombed it !! All verry likely you see..



posted on Jul, 23 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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reply to post by defcon5
 

Yada yada yada yada. . .
We have to put up with it, your answer is there to read !

It is ignorant to say this: " if there was a waterspout. . . " ! !

Let's see?. . . August 7, 1994. Oakville, Washington.

We know England have had "animal rains" before.
What do we see in the Atlantic ??? tornados/hurricanes/waterspouts ! !
Where do they go some times ?? East of North-America, towards Europe !

What do we have **NOT** in the East-Pacific ??? Guess what ! !

Because you insult our intelligence, we have to tell you this:
You are no more humorous, your arguments are getting ridiculous !!

Tornado/waterspout seasons are:
www.spc.noaa.gov...

For Oakville "Washington", the small-tornados probability is:
+- 0.02 % ! ! ! There are NEVER hurricanes there ! !
And the F2 waterspout/tornado = ZERO PROBABILITY ! !
www.nssl.noaa.gov...
www.nssl.noaa.gov...

Anyway, as I said in my first post: " ***Could*** this be the. . . "
We are only ""asking"" ourself THE question. It is a SUSPECTED fact.
Your useful-for-me/useless-in-general arguments have reinforced our answer. . .
. . .sick for WEEKs, hardly breathe, woman on the ground, bacteria,
military fly around, usual denial. . . FOR **6** TIMES ?????
Clever people will conclude the almost obvious !

Also, it is no more worth losing energy/time for a so old event.
Case closed for me, here !
BUT, if "chemtrail awaked" persons want to add intelligent reflections, be our guest ! B-)

Blue skies.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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I saw a program on the History Channel about this yesterday. It was about using the weather as a weapon. I never really looked into chemtrails, but much of the program focused on them. Apparently they alter the atmosphere and help to create rain clouds.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:24 PM
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S&F!


Funny thing about Jellyfish...

They stink! Have you ever been to the beach when a bunch of them wash up...and are rotting? (like they would after 3 weeks or so) That goo did not stink. Maybe it had been sanitized. Somewhere in a labratory.

Oh...wait maybe that jelly substance was not jellyfish after all?
The labs would have indentifed that would they not?

I mean...do not jellyfish have an identifiable molecular structure?
Of course they do!

But now that there are no samples left to analyze...well I guess some snarky poster can just comfort themselves with the idea they did a good enough job by talking about it raining animals.

You know?

And just one real question...did those animals have human white blood cells in them?
Weather as a Force Multiplier:
Owning the Weather in 2025
A USAF Research Paper Study


Nanotechnology also offers possibilities for creating simulated weather. A cloud, or several clouds, of microscopic computer particles, all communicating with each other and with a larger control system could provide tremendous capability. Interconnected, atmospherically buoyant, and having navigation capability in three dimensions, such clouds could be designed to have a wide-range of properties. They might exclusively block optical sensors or could adjust to become impermeable to other surveillance methods. They could also provide an atmospheric electrical potential difference, which otherwise might not exist, to achieve precisely aimed and timed lightning strikes. Even if power levels achieved were insufficient to be an effective strike weapon, the potential for psychological operations in many situations could be fantastic.

One major advantage of using simulated weather to achieve a desired effect is that unlike other approaches, it makes what are otherwise the results of deliberate actions appear to be the consequences of natural weather phenomena. In addition, it is potentially relatively inexpensive to do.


Of course the military would say that they do not practice such and yada yada yada. Blah blah blah.



[edit on 26-7-2009 by burntheships]



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:02 AM
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Hey, where's the whole gang? Phaige, weedwhacker, and the lot? I think the video was compelling evidence. I linked on one of these an air test done in Phoenix.

The "Debunker's" wanted an air test, but when provided they said it was no good?

I forget, is it the red, or blue pill needed to fall into ignorant fat bliss?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:18 AM
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I am sure this has some logical explanation...
You know...such as the military was involved with a bioterroist experiment, and it turned out exactly (or slightly off center) as they had planned!

What other reason could there be for the fact that all of the samples of the jelly matter with human white blood cells in it have dissapeared?



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:23 AM
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The govt, you say? Nay, they're here to help us, right?


I'm sure the people in the town were all nut jobs; since they saw all the government aircraft...sheeze...



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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Yea I am sure those poor simple folks deeply regretted speaking out...I wonder if any of them have had a follow up call?

I mean...really would not someone in the world care about the effect that toxic goo had on their health? Inquiring minds want to know!



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 05:51 AM
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Can any one explain why there are only ever chemtrails reported by Americans in America???



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 10:23 AM
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Hi, chem "awaked" persons ! !

reply to post by SKUNK2
 

! NOT TRUE !

We will not do it for you:
Use the [ Search ] button, and/or read CAREFULY the other LIVE threads,
right now, on the subject, with the key-word: CHEMTRAIL !

See what HE has to say, about chemtrails OUTSIDE USA ! !

" sanchoearlyjones "
www.abovetopsecret.com...
or
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And, [ Search ] carefuly about threads on chemtrails, from
Canada,
UK,
Autralia,
Africa,
South America,
MANY places in Europe,
. . .etc. . .etc. . .etc. . .
From ALL AROUND the world !

! You are disinforming the readers !

Blue skies.



posted on Aug, 2 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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Yep, blows me away. I will swear on my own life; in the many years being in America Central I've not seen ONE chemtrail. Now, I guess the debunkers' have no answers there except that a.) the people are too poor to own a camera b.) after explaining the planes aren't filled with chickens, and goats, the explaination turned to no moisture, wrong latitude, etc.



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