UFO outside airplane window

When I zoom in I see an object with dimension that looks completely separate from the plane and the window, it clearly isn't water droplets and if it's something stuck inside the window in the actual glass than that's one junky air plane.
I wouldn't want to be flying on as that surely has to effect the structure of the window.

It doesn't have to be some alien air craft either.

reply to post by skyeyes
Good observation, I agree the cowling illumination looks much different than the UFO illumination. Sometimes the jpg compression causes a halo effect around object with high contrast.

I don't think it's a water droplet, and it doesn't look like an aircraft. Not sure what it is.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by skyeyes

 

Good observation, I agree the cowling illumination looks much different than the UFO illumination. Sometimes the jpg compression causes a halo effect around object with high contrast.

I don't think it's a water droplet, and it doesn't look like an aircraft. Not sure what it is.

You can see the suns location its reflected in the engine of the jet and after looking at it doesnt match the object since the sun is to the left of the plane the object should not be darkest at the side facing the plane. This tells me it was added in the picture. It became obvious when i started looking at lighting values in the photo.

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
Taken by me from the window of a ryanair flight returning from portugal in may this year.

Did you only take one picture?

It would be really nice if you could post another picture of it too. It will help with figuring out what it is. It will help determining the distance of the object.

Until then, it just looks like something on the window, because we can't determine distance without relying on your word.

Hi, thanks everyone for your replies, i'll try to answer the points raised.

I do have other images but they dont show anything, this was the only one taken from this location too.

The window is quite dirty and the other marks and white spots are ice on the outside, water droplets and smudges.

The time of the picture is late morning and i dont know the position of the sun, the engine cowling however is rounded so it's difficult to use that as a guide but there is shadow in the foreground and on the leading edge of the engine (and similar on the clouds) which suggests to me that the sun is to the right at a highish angle.

It was taken as a JPG not converted from a RAW, the image size was reduced because i only have the free account on flickr and i have limits on my MB upload !

Thanks again for looking.

Maybe its just me being an idiot but to me it looks like an big island thats miles away. Anyone else think this?

reply to post by dragonridr

...doesnt match the object since the sun is to the left of the plane the object should not be darkest at the side facing the plane.

I'm looking again this morning and invite everyone to look carefully at the shadows of the clouds, on the water below. Also, look at the engine nacelle (cowling) you can see the reflection of the Sun. THAT is difficult to judge, exactly, where the Sun is because of many factors -- the attitude of the airplane being the most obvious. The curve of the cowl makes it difficult as well.

My experience with objects ON the window itself has been that they blur out, when the focus is set to infinity in order to get a clear dstance shot. The clouds are sharp and in focus, the engine cowl is in focus, so anything just inches away from the lens (and on the window) would likely be blurred.

OP said it was morning, but it must have been late morning, again judging from the cloud shadows. We also know it was May, and we know the approximate Latitude range, so we have an idea of the Sun's angle that time of year and that Northern Latitude at any given time of day.

just throwing stuff out there, seeing what might stick....

I wanted to add, again from the info the OP provided:

OP was on a RyanAir flight from Portugal (Faro? Porto? They don't fly to Lisboa). I'm assuming, since it's RyanAir, the destination was in the UK.

(Glasgow? Stansted, London?)

Anyway, airplane course would be North/NorthEast, and the Sun, of course, would be on the airplane's right and (slightly forward) side, high (assuming mid to late morning). That fits with the reflection of the Sun on the cowl. AND the shadows of the clouds, on the Atlantic.

Looking at a schedule from Porto to Stansded, for instance, on RyanAir shows departure at 0925 and arrival at 1145. (Flights from Faro depart in afternoon and evenings).

[edit on 6 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

Looks like the plains, that the black ops have made for a long time, using alien tech. Very good shot though.

it looks to me as its part of the window. next time you board a plane take a look some windows have marks from the moulding/manufcturing process.
sometimes they are round othertimes they are elongated.

Well whatever it is, it is definitely unidentifiable and some kind of object, and it looks to be above the clouds, if we assume it is not falling then, I would say its hard not to say it isn't some kind of UFO.

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If you're referring to flaws in the plastic...imperfections that cause transparency defects...again, I can't see how it would not be blurred and/or not even in the photo at all.

We don't know how much the pic has been manipulated. Cropped? Enlarged? I see no window frame. The camera may have been placed right up against the plastic when the shutter snapped. How would a defect only inches from the lens show up so clearly? Take a photo yourself, you'll see the focal range of the ordinary lens cannot get a sharp image that close, unless it's in a 'macro' mode...and then the depth of field would not be sufficient for the distant clouds to be in focus....

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
I do have other images but they dont show anything, this was the only one taken from this location too.

Can you please post those pictures for us? Even though nothing is in them, I would like to see them, it will STILL help.

Thanks

woow

nice find

here is a similar event from Serbia - balkans - Europe

www.youtube.com...

Could it be the vent hole between the outer hull acrylic and the inner window for pressure differential?

As the picture catches the engine, was the camera catching the top half of the window, on an angle that would elongate the vent hole which are sometime on the top or bottom of airline windows.

Just thought.

Have you guys ever noticed that unless it is raining, water doesn't condense on an airplane window.

Why?

Because the average cruse speed of a commercial jet liner is 500-600 mph. (about .8 mach)

Lets think about this for a second.

When you are going down the road at 70 mph and there is a single drop on your window, what happens? The droplet travels to the outside of your window and eventually disappears right?

Now lets add 530 mph to the equation. You will probably notice that a dihydrogen oxide condensation will not survive at those speeds. Not on a window.

PEOPLE! if you are going to try to debunk something, don't make up dumb *&^$ to use as ammunition. This object is obviously in the air, it cannot be a water droplet at 500 mph. It is not on the glass. Look at the window. You can see the dirt and gunk which provides reference to how close the glass is. This object is obviously different from the airplane, but I understand why you wouldn't want to think so. A UFO.... in the sky.... no way.....

If you are trying to debunk this your gonna have to do about a trillion times better. Next someone will be saying its a freaking bird...

[edit on 6-7-2009 by DaMod]

Originally posted by atlasastro
Could it be the vent hole between the outer hull acrylic and the inner window for pressure differential?

As the picture catches the engine, was the camera catching the top half of the window, on an angle that would elongate the vent hole which are sometime on the top or bottom of airline windows.

Just thought.

Yeah its gotta be the vent hole.. I mean vent holes are perfectly circular.. We know that because they are done by machines with precision so this elongated mess is obviously one of those perfectly round vent holes........

Usually the small hole is at the bottom of the window.



My guess: could be a defect in the plastic, a bubble of air. Hard to say.

OP, thanks for the picture, it is interesting. If you could upload the original picture to a file sharing site, or MUFON, we could do some serious analysis based on the actual image data, not a crippled version.

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Could it be the vent hole between the outer hull acrylic and the inner window for pressure differential?

Thought of that. The vent hole (Boeings) is at the bottom. The placement is incorrect, in the picture.

Based on a SouthWest Airlines seat map [seatguru.com] (a US discount all-economy airline using B737 exclusively, and their seating configuration...no seat maps for RyanAir were found) it looks as if the photo was snapped from about row six or seven. I KNOW it's a B737, because of the engine cowling (and RyanAir flies the B737-800 exclusively).

SO, just eliminating some of the more obvious possibilities, leaving open more ideas. SO FAR (except for CGI) evidence is pointing to something outside the airplane. A photography/computer expert would be useful...

[edit on 6 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by 0nce 0nce

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
Taken by me from the window of a ryanair flight returning from portugal in may this year.

Did you only take one picture?

It would be really nice if you could post another picture of it too. It will help with figuring out what it is. It will help determining the distance of the object.

Until then, it just looks like something on the window, because we can't determine distance without relying on your word.

Cant determine..... what!?!?

We have multiple points of reference including the most obvious ones. We have gunk on the window to determine the distance from window to camera. We have a jet engine both to use as a point of reference. A droplet surviving on a window at 500 mph?

It cant be ice, because at those altitudes water becomes supercooled without turning to ice. Here is a link to scientific information that will give you some idea of what I'm talking about here. I can't quote it because it's in PDF.

Link to PDF

/sigh

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


While you're at it give us the raw image. Straight from the camera please.