UFO outside airplane window

Originally posted by Phage
I have a few questions that don't seem to have been asked.

Were you intentionally taking a picture of the object?
Did you see it while not looking through the viewfinder/LCD display?
If so:
How long was it in your field of view?
Did it display any motion relative to your plane?
How did it first appear to you?
How did it leave your view?
To your knowledge, did anyone else on board the plane see it?
Did you make any comment about it to anyone else at the time?

[edit on 7/14/2009 by Phage]

Thanks for your comments, i'm afraid it's not going to be a very helpful answer as i didnt see anything other than clouds, sea and plane wings ! I would have been looking at my viewfinder (small screen) at the back of the camera whilst composing the shot, but it doesnt show much in the way of fine detail when you do that.

Ive had lots of cool comments after posting this on a couple of forums and some great suggestions as to what it is, so ive compiled this video to give my take on the whole thing.

www.youtube.com...

Abovetopsecret gets a mention on the vid and i'll be re-mixing it soon to include more of the best comments and suggestions.

all the best

To the OP,

Not only you CAN recover the RAW images on your computer with some freeware revovery software but you can also do it with your camera (memory card) and it's free (free trial) :

www.cardrecovery.com...

Personnaly, I think that you are bu--#--- us and that you won't be able to recover these images for some unidentified reason...

Prove me (some of us) wrong for a start...

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Europa aka Buckwild

Originally posted by Europa733
To the OP,



Personnaly, I think that you are bu--#--- us

Thank you, that is very civil of you.

Could you please tell me what i have said that is 'bu--#---' and i will do my very best to address it.

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly

Originally posted by Europa733
To the OP,



Personnaly, I think that you are bu--#--- us

Thank you, that is very civil of you.

Could you please tell me what i have said that is 'bu--#---' and i will do my very best to address it.

Like I said, prove us wrong and get the RAW images please. The simple fact that you are not saying "ok, I'll give it a try" is suspicious already.

Maybe I am paranoid, maybe I am not...

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Europa

You've intrigued me now. You've made an insulting accusation against me and then requested i fulfill your request. Ive replied to your initial accusation and now you are ignoring that and are instead just repeating your request.

If you expect people to respond to you in a reasoned and relevent way then you have to be reasoned and relevent yourself. So what is this insulting accusation all about ?

Kandinsky already told you how to recover data (images for ex).


You never said anything about it, this is why I think that you are BS us.

Sorry if you find this insulting but this is my POV and I am free to write it down if I want to.

Now, please show us that you have nothing to hide by recovering the RAW images.

That's all and as simple as that. Why ? EDIT : Because if you do and if our "experts" think there's no CGI & forgery involved (=> Blog artifact grid detection & JPEG ghost detection) then maybe you should get in touch with Dr Haines & Ted Roe from the NARCAP as they would probably be interested :

www.narcap.org...



Cheers,
Europa

[edit on 21-7-2009 by Europa733]

Cool.
All we need is a copy of the original and we send it to the experts.
I erase the originals on the memory chip.
Thats to allow more room for some new videos or stills.
I have never did anything with a viewer or editor except
load and unload or change by rotation.

Can't say I would try and look at erased history but might
if I get too curious.
There seems to be on board memory and computer that keeps
track of still naming with numbers and video chapters and a
thumbnail program.

Originally posted by Europa733


Sorry if you find this insulting but this is my POV and I am free to write it down if I want to.

Yes, i do find it insulting when someone says i'm BSing, now, what am i BS about ? There is a whole 10 pages of thread for you to find quotes from and i'll address ANY of them that are BS.

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly

Originally posted by Europa733


Sorry if you find this insulting but this is my POV and I am free to write it down if I want to.

Yes, i do find it insulting when someone says i'm BSing, now, what am i BS about ? There is a whole 10 pages of thread for you to find quotes from and i'll address ANY of them that are BS.

Let's make it clear, I think that you are BS-ing us when you say that you took this picture. The fact that once again you avoid talking about recovery software is very revealing to say the least.

So now, please recover your pics or I suggest that moderators should get you banned.

We are all here to know the truth if possible.

I dislike hoaxers & liers and I think that you are one until you prove me wrong.

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Europa

[edit on 22-7-2009 by Europa733]

Originally posted by Europa733
To the OP,

Not only you CAN recover the RAW images on your computer with some freeware revovery software but you can also do it with your camera (memory card) and it's free (free trial) :

www.cardrecovery.com...

Personnaly, I think that you are bu--#--- us and that you won't be able to recover these images for some unidentified reason...

Prove me (some of us) wrong for a start...

++
Europa aka Buckwild

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For review purposes.
However since plain copy to computer does not corrupt the original
I would have no need for the program.
Although the need and design of operation made way for this utility.
And the chance of a Tesla craft sighting other than the one I already
saw seems rare that I might get one on camera.
However I do think that if one is found you might find more in
some locations.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Cool.
All we need is a copy of the original and we send it to the experts.
I erase the originals on the memory chip.
Thats to allow more room for some new videos or stills.
I have never did anything with a viewer or editor except
load and unload or change by rotation.

Can't say I would try and look at erased history but might
if I get too curious.
There seems to be on board memory and computer that keeps
track of still naming with numbers and video chapters and a
thumbnail program.

Hi, i tried the free download file recovery but it will only find lost files.....it wont let you recover them unless you purchase the full version. It found 4000 files that ive deleted but the .jpg's were not even in a condition where you could view them (it says what quality the recovered files are in, poor, good etc and lets you view for free). So without a lot of trawling through.....and paying for a full version i dont think there is much hope.

The memory card in the camera has been wiped and recorded over several times so i dont think there is any hope there either.

Maybe someone will offer to buy me the full version ! (or a better one)

Thanks for your comments on my video BTW.

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly

Maybe someone will offer to buy me the full version ! (or a better one)

Thanks for your comments on my video BTW.

My only advice would be : Get in touch with Ted Roe and/or Dr Haines from NARCAP and let us know what they told you & did to help you recover you data.

Thx in advance.

Cheers,
Europa

Christ, always through a window! Haha!

Again, i'm going with 'Object on the window' as my opinion on this.

Pay no attention to the anti Tesla conspiracy.
The Tesla creation is to be denied at ever instance.
The ether ship must exist since so many never heard or want it to be known.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Pay no attention to the anti Tesla conspiracy.
The Tesla creation is to be denied at ever instance.
The ether ship must exist since so many never heard or want it to be known.

I've seen you write many random posts that make no sense in threads.

Looking for attention?

Perhaps many of the UFO photos are fabrications.
Some may be by agents working for the projects to see how actual
photos of UFOs work out.
A known and planed exercise.

Photos of actual UFOs that mean anything revealing would be destroyed.
However if there are confusing results then why restrict the photos as
to make them important, release the photos to make them innocuous.

Then of course there is the random photo of the UFO that people take.

Working on Naval ship equipment on a big project, hardly anyone
cares but when the Officers in charge comes down to show films of
rocket engines under test and tell how they solved problems, everyone
on the project gets to see what was done.
Hardly anyone had the remotest thing to do with engines.

If the ones in charge want photos, they get them.
They might keep them and release them or destroy them.

TeslaandLyne, i think you raise a good point here.

Over simplifying things we can break it down into 3 groups. Governments, the average joe blogs and people who are interested in UFO's.

If governments are trying to cover up UFO's then no doubt they would go out of their way to either debunk or remove images. If they have secret technology they want to cover up then maybe they would promote UFO images to distract attention.

The average Joe Blogs- Cant see them doing anything to change what is shown and their comments are usually balanced and not too extreme.

People who are interested in UFO's- Well,i think a) some people want to believe and will intentionally ignore glaring inaccuracies and actively promote UFO images and b) Some people get an ego kick out of debunking and try to make a name for themselves by doing so.

The point i'm making is that i think the MOST important thing to research before developing an opinion on images and their use is the people involved in presenting and commenting strongly on images. I can assure you that this is much, much more revealing than a digital representation of colours and shapes or words.

Always check out the messenger before you check out the message !

Here is something on the 'channels' or 'pipes' displayed on the saucer.

Bye the way I noticed a note about the Walton rescue.
He wandered around the base and saw three shapes of saucers.
Oval, rounded and saucer flat as a pancake.

The flat pancake must still be around.

See the book back cover.

Just happened to see this and there might be many more showing
this feature.

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


I'll put your video on this page:


Yup, its a flat one.