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There must be an unmoved mover (St. Thomas Aquinas)
Originally posted by Hazelnut
God came from our imagination applied to natural knowledge. The Creator is unknowable and nothforthcoming with answers. Man has many hypothoses and speculative doctrines to answer your question. I have a question for you. Where do you think "God" came from?
Originally posted by Android X
This is my first time posting in the religion. I just have 2 questions that need to be answered. The first one is, where did GOD come from? I believe in GOD, i just want to know where he came from.
Originally posted by zaiger
There must be an unmoved mover (St. Thomas Aquinas)
I beieve that to be correct but i think it was Aristotle that came up with the whole prime mover unmoved thing. we could go into detail about it but it boils down to this.
1.If something is moving something moved it
2.if one is true then then there should be a cause to all movement and not an infinite amount of causes.
3. According to two the mover could not be moved
So in a nutshell If something created god that would mean that God could be effected at which point would make it not a god.
Originally posted by cancerian42
Originally posted by zaiger
There must be an unmoved mover (St. Thomas Aquinas)
I beieve that to be correct but i think it was Aristotle that came up with the whole prime mover unmoved thing. we could go into detail about it but it boils down to this.
1.If something is moving something moved it
2.if one is true then then there should be a cause to all movement and not an infinite amount of causes.
3. According to two the mover could not be moved
So in a nutshell If something created god that would mean that God could be effected at which point would make it not a god.
I don't believe this is true. I think there was no beginning nor is there an end, everything is infinite. If your view is correct how did the mover even begin to move something if the mover is unmovable? And plus, your meaning is very vague. Don't you realize that all effects are also causes therefore how could there be a first cause if there was nothing to cause it? The only unchanging thing is change-or so I have heard.
[edit on 2-7-2009 by cancerian42]
Originally posted by son of total newbie
Since everything in the universe seems to work by cause and effect, what happens when you go back to the very beginning?...