New life form in sewers?

reply to post by ahamarlin

Tubifex is found in poluted (river)water, rich with nutrients often next to sewage outlets. Part of the body is digged into the substrate (sand, mud or slib) This is protection (they retract fast into the substrate when disturbed) and its holding them on the same (nutricious) spot.

Yes, so why would they be in that sewer, that has vitually none of the conditions they like?

The colony has to stay wet otherwise they will die very soon.

Yes, so why are they hangin above the water then? They would either die from dehydration, or be flushed away, so they wouldn't be there in the first place.

A slime and bacteria layer will form around the colony

Possibly, but nowhere on the internet can the same thing be seen covering Tubifex.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by Point of No Return]

reply to post by Point of No Return


I asked the same question myself.

That video which showed dried tubifex worms "flexing" do not even look like whatever is in the sewer. Official word is these tubifex worms are common in the sewers. If so, why haven't we seen similar videos on YouTube? Lets see more videos of sewers containing tubifex worms that look exactly like what we see now.

Plus, the parts attached to the sewer walls look different. They look thicker and more "muscle" like than some other videos. Is there a reason why? Did these supposed tubifex colonies grown so much?

I can't believe this thread is still going!
It's not tubifex. Have you ever seen tubifex worms??

www.youtube.com...

Even in a more colonial organization, it looks nothing like tubifex.

I still say gastropod. And I honestly think I'm right.
www.youtube.com...
Like what that frog has got.

In terms of Byrozoans.. if you're still on that route...
www.youtube.com...

Again, they don't move, and they can't survive outside of water. And that means water immersion.

[edit on 7/8/2009 by ravenshadow13]

reply to post by ravenshadow13


It's funny that your explanation is just as, or maybe even worse of an explanation for the sewer creature, than the other explanations.

I sstill think its a very evolved form of the thing causing morgellons disease. I dont know why, but I'm sensing a very strong connection between this mysterious organism and the disease. Morgellons is seriously thought to be caused by water entering your home, a water filter is known to decrease symptooms in patients.

Maybe this thing is releasing spores or eggs or something into water supplies that infect humans and begin to grow inside you. Notice the similarity between the spike and white fibers coming out of morgellon sores. and how the central mass looks kinda like muscular tissue.

I would like to find out whether there is a high concentration of Morgellon's patients in raleigh. ANyone know?

Morgellons and this creature both remind me of Invasion of the body snatchers, remember the white tentacle things in that movie?

I dont buy the tubifex nor bryozoan(spelling?) arguments, neither look like this organism. I think it is an evolved form of something. And I'm sensing the outcome will not be a good one, someone seriously needs to be studying this organism. Before it's too late.
This is raising too many red flags from us all.


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If I lived in that town I'd organize a town hall meeting to get biologists and specialists down there ASAP and DEFINITIVELY find out what they are. F*** speculation and debate, those things are in my water supply!

Actually... dont know about the first two, but the third one is DEFINATELY my ex boyfriends mother.

Originally posted by GioTheGreek

Tubifex

Tubifex worms in wild

Wow! I think that's what this is. For a couple reasons.

The slime would be explained by the fact that these things are stuck to the walls of a 6" sewer pipe. The second one (someone said it looks like it has a tentacle), I think that is actually just part of the larger worm mass cocooned in sewer slime.

Also notice that the wall of the pipe behind the objects is cleaned and black when the masses move. It looks like these things were probably there for a while in other words. It isn't so much that the MASS is light sensitive as it is a few of the worms probably noticed either the light or the vibration of the remote controlled car thing moving around. If one or two of them moves suddenly, all of them are going to react in a similar way, thus the blob looks like it is one pulsating mass when it is actually many smaller worms moving together in sequence. That explains alot..

On the second one.. If you look at the left-hand side of the mass in the video (at about 1:20 into the video) after the initial layer of slime recedes, you can actually see one or two of the individual worms moving around for a moment. They are lighter in color than the poo-colored sewer sludge encasing them and helping hold the mass together. This is why I noticed them to start with. But if you notice the slime.. It doesn't move independently at all like it would need to if you were going to say this is some kind of blob-like creature. It just stretches and moves with the globule of worms balled-up inside. The bizarre pulsating effect is probably partially being caused by the slime itself. This makes it look almost like a human organ or something. That or someone hocked the most rancid luigy ever created and it lives on. But it is actually neither .

The slime has had alot of time to build-up on these things. But for all we know the worms were huddling together to keep warm in the cold sewer water. That would be one possibility.

-ChriS

[edit on 15-7-2009 by BlasteR]

reply to post by warrenb

Other theories floated: cnideria, slime molds, and shoggoth spawn.

THANK YOU X 10000 for you poost!
I've been looking for this type of 'animal' for quite a long time!

*Happy Dance*



Thanks!

I just saw this post on the Anchorage Daily News website and thought of this thread...

Big blobs of mystery goo floating off Alaska coast

"From the air it looks brownish with some sheen, but when you get close and put it up on the ice and in the bucket, it's kind of blackish stuff ... (and) has hairy strands on it."

Hasenauer said the Coast Guard's samples are being analyzed in Anchorage. Results may be back sometime next week, he said."

The hairy strands stuff makes me think of all the little tentacles that were embedded in the rock... Any idea what THIS could be? Could it be the same thing?

~Peace



[edit on 15-7-2009 by IHIPrelude94]

reply to post by Threadfall


I've seen the inside of many potable water tanks and towers. I won't go into details, but I now drink bottled water. Small animals often find their way and die in the reservoir. I've never seen something like in the video, but I work in cold climates.

Found another article... look at the picture of it in the bucket. Those hair like strands look familiar imo...

www.foxnews.com...#

reply to post by IHIPrelude94


Ick, the 'hairy strands' do look similar actually.



I still dont think its worms. Sure the actually mass looks like worms covered in slime, but its the things that are keeping whatever it is attached to the pipe that look odd. The only movement they seem to have is being pulled back into it, and the worms in all the other videos that are half hanging out look to be quite active and still have some independent movement.

Why cant they discover something nice looking instead of goo and suspicious looking blobs?

reply to post by IHIPrelude94


Wow, interesting.

I live in Fairbanks Alaska. So I saw your mention of the Anchorage Daily News and had to check it out.

Here's an updated version of the same news story published a day or two after the first one.

Black goop afloat off Arctic coast identified as algae

A sample of the giant black mystery blob that Wainwright hunters discovered this month floating in the Chukchi Sea has been identified.

It looks to be a stringy batch of algae. Not bunker oil seeping from an aging, sunken ship. Not a sea monster.

"We got the results back from the lab today," said Ed Meggert of the Department of Environmental Conservation in Fairbanks. "It was marine algae."

Miles of the thick, dark gunk had been spotted floating between Barrow and Wainwright, prompting North Slope Borough officials and the Coast Guard to investigate last week. A sample was sent to a DEC lab in Anchorage, where workers looked at it under a microscope and declared it some kind of simple plant -- an algae, Meggert said.

The goo fast became an Alaska mystery. And the new findings still leave questions unanswered: Why is there so much of it in a region where people say they've never seen anything quite like it?

Local hunters and whalers didn't know what to make of it. The Coast Guard labeled the substance biological, but knew little else. The stuff had hairy strands in it and was tangled with jellyfish, said a borough official.

Algae it is!

Perhaps even some kind of new species. Climate change could also be another factor in why it is being seen now when it was never seen before. Wierd! I am certainly not an expert in Alaskan marine life but maybe it's the result of some kind of mutation? Melting glaciers and arctic sea-ice might be partially responsible for why this species of algae seems to be thriving.

-ChriS

Well I'm certain that it is not a mass of worms. This is because even with a large group of the same organism existing together each individual worm would act independently of the others. However when the light is shone on it, it pulses as it contracts. The whole of the outside moves inwards as one. This would suggest that it is some sort of muscle or other equivalent as a group of individual creatures would not achieve that level of synchronisation.

-Cauch1

reply to post by Cauch1


That's exactly what I said, too.

I've been doing a ton of research on tubifex because of this video.

They can create protective cysts, supposedly.

www.bioone.org...

All specimens of the two species in which cyst formation was observed had been collected after drying conditions ranging from 14 to 28 days.

... The development of protective cysts by Dero multibranchiata and Trieminentia corderoi, and perhaps many other species of aquatic oligochaetes, appears to be an adaptive strategy enabling them to survive drought in temporary wetlands, recolonize freshwater habitats upon inundation, and disperse both laterally and downstream with rising water levels in wetlands and streams.

But I can't find pictures of these tubifex cysts anywhere. Or video. Or anything, really. If I knew what they looked like, I might settle with that explanation. But I really can't find any evidence of it, and none of the tubifex evidence in this thread has me convinced at all.

I've read a ton of abstracts and I can't figure out if the cysts have that sort of movement or not. I'd tend to think not! Especially because they lower their metabolic rate when that happens. It would be like hibernation. I'm not going to rule it out, but I don't have access to most of the full studies done on tubifex and I'm not about to pay for access.

blog.taragana.com...

This says that it's tubifex, but the pictures in that page were not in the video. I'm not saying tubifex doesn't exist down there, that's just not what I saw.

If someone can show me a visual example of a tubifex cyst, I'd be in good shape.

Maybe a sewer rat and a type of sewage bacteria have bred together, creating this disgusting kinda rat-bacteria, an animal like a rat- but not properly formed, that keeps growing and multiplying parts of its body, like bacteria multiplies.

there is a youtube vid of some rednecks shooting a Bryozoa with a .308

check it out

sorry, I'm at work or I would post it

Originally posted by daddymax
there is a youtube vid of some rednecks shooting a Bryozoa with a .308

check it out

sorry, I'm at work or I would post it

Here it is.

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by The Cusp


OMG, please do not bring this subject back. I just got comfortable doing #1, #2, and #3 in the toilet without any fear of some fleshy blob attacking my rectum or, heaven forbid, my family jewels.

What also freaks me out is that sewer companies state they are common in most sewers. I really hope these fleshy blobs are just a conglomerate of tubifex worms. And I'm sure tubifex worms are the least of our concerns in what lies in the sewers... [shiver].