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The Holy Spirit is not a many spirits, which is why its the holy one-
Well..... take a look at the wikileaks logo.
It clearly depicts one world, dripping into another, like an hourglass. This alone should be ringing your cow bell
Originally posted by The Matrix Traveller
Many are talking of Spirit but what is their definition of Spirit ???
Many are talking of Spirit but what is their definition of Spirit ???
That which is the source of all life, the very innermost and animating cause of our being, of all life 'being',
throughout all nature.
The essence of 'god' the moves to and fro....
the pressed outwardly,
and became a expression of the 'IAM' which is the universe
(a expression of the infinite one) as 'being'. The attributes of power, will, vibratory harmony, vastness, greatness, infinite potential and possibilities.
“Tell me, Lord, the earthquake that moves the earth,
how does it move?”
The Lord took a stone and held it in His hand.
133. He said, “What is this that I hold in My hand?”
He said, “It is a stone.”
He said to them, “He Who Sustains the earth is He Who Sustains The Heaven.
When a Word comes forth from The Greatness, It will go to Him
Who Sustains The Heaven and the earth.
For the earth does NOT move; if it moved, it would fall,
but it does NOT fall in order that The First Word might not be Annulled,
Namely ‘He is The One Who Established The World, and He Dwelt in It,
and He received incense from It.’ For everything that does NOT move
I will bring to you, all ye sons of men, for you are from That Place.
“As for those who speak out of joy and Truth, you are in their heart.
And if He comes from The Body of The Father through men,
and they do NOT receive Him, He turns again to His Place.
He who knows not The Works of Perfection knows Nothing.
If one does NOT stand in the darkness,
he will NOT be able to SEE The LIGHT.
134. If one does NOT understand how The Fire came to be,
he will burn in It, because he does NOT know his Root.
If one does NOT First Understand The Water, he does NOT know anything.
For what is the use for him to receive baptism in it?
If one does NOT understand how The Wind that blows came to be,
he will run from It.
If one does NOT understand how the body that he wears came to be,
he will perish with It.
And he who does NOT know The SON, how will he know The FATHER?
And he who will NOT know the Root of All things, All things are hidden from him.
He who will NOT know the root of wickedness is NOT a stranger to it.
He who will NOT understand how he came will NOT understand how he will go,
and is NOT a stranger to this world which will perish and which will be Humbled.”
One could even say that spirit is the energy that is of all things..
for all things are energy/vibration...but I think its much more then that, for it fills the seen and unseen....the visible and invisible.
To understand spirit in this way, one has to understand and accept that God is really all that truly exists...
and that all things are only animating through the will and power of thee, by spirit, the breath of life.
The source that sustains god...becomes the source that sustains all things that emanate from 'thee'.
As some others here believe in many spirits, I believe in one. ETman said earlier that there are many spirits and a example he used was the spirit of hate.
If we take all the material worlds away and the illusion of separation away, there is no infinite spirit of hate.
10. When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed,
Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel.
11. And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west,
and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
12. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness:
there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
13. Then said the king to the servants,
Bind him hand and foot, and take him away,
and cast him into outer darkness;
there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
3 All things were made through Him,
And without Him nothing was made
that was made.
6. That they may know
from the rising of the Sun,
and from the West,
that there is none beside Me.
I Am the Lord, and there is NONE else.
7. I form The LIGHT,
and Create Darkness:
I make Peace,
and Create Evil:
I The Lord do ALL these things.
34. Think NOT that I am come to send peace on earth:
I came NOT to bring Peace, but a sword.
35. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
and the daughter against her mother,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me:
and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39. He that findeth his life shall lose it:
and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
40. He that receiveth you receiveth me,
and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
51. Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth?
I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided,
three against two, and two against three.
53. The father shall be divided against the son,
and the son against the father;
the mother against the daughter,
and the daughter against the mother;
the mother in law against her daughter in law,
and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Such a attribute is only birthed through a cause and effect manifestation of spirit animating into flesh (the outward expression).
When we take all seen things away, there is only one spirit without beginning and end, which is the very force of the infinite one, and really the only one that truly is.
37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,
nor the desire of women, nor regard any god:
for he shall magnify himself above all.
38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces:
and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
I find it very strange while someone uses so many teachings of the bible and of Jesus, but then also limits the Spirit that fills their being, that is the breath to all life.
40. But now ye seek to kill me,
a man that hath told you the truth,
which I have heard of God:
this did not Abraham.
41. ”Ye do the Works of your father.”
Then said they to him,
We be not born of fornication;
We be not born of fornication
we have one Father, even God.
42. Jesus said unto them,
“If God were your Father,
ye would love me:
for I proceeded forth
and came from God;
neither came I of myself,
but he sent me.
43. Why do ye not understand my speech?
even because ye cannot hear my word.
44. Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and abode not in the truth,
because there is no truth in him.
When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own:
for he is a liar,
and the father of it.
45. And because I tell you the truth,
ye believe me not.
There are many attributes that are animated from this manifested world we are in due to the idea that we and all life, are something of a separate nature. This is where competition arises, pride arises, greed arises, jealousy arises, dishonesty arises, selfishness arises.
He who has Found the World has only found a Corpse,
and he who has found a corpse is superior to the world'
It is my belief that this is a constant occurrence-that before this universe and after this universe, there will again be a outwardly pushing of the IAM as Thee is constantly being, also will constantly express.
”Heaven and Earth Shall Pass Away but My Words Shall NOT Pass Away.”
When we look at only a part of the universe, like 1 sun, or 1 planet, or 1 tree, or 1 atom, or 1 person, or 1 animal....we miss what is really going on here, as a 'whole'. We miss how all is interconnected, how it all works together,
how different parts play a role in awakening the conscious being to see all is of 'one' work. Filled and fattened, but the 'one' spirit.
Can any of us imagine 'being' all by ourselves, without the influences of others, without the facets of nature, without the air that fills our lungs and food and water that sustains our bodies?
What we do and what others do, influences a part of the whole.
What kind of world would we be if we all understood this and focused on this. If we understood that the spirit that sustains my being is the same that fills yours...would this not effect how we then respond, react, and treat eachother? If the world realized it was one spirit being, in the experience/expression of a seemingly many....would harmony on earth not come easier and more naturally?
And then, if we all continue to think we are separate in our own right, that we are all divided, would we find harmony this way?
What is easy to not see is that what animates from the infinite one in expression, is perfect. The processing of this animation will knead itself out in spiritual realization of our oneness, of our true divine self that we are of and from, through discernment of what is of flesh (the cause and effect of flesh) and what is of spirit (our inner most true nature)
One does not have to believe in a infinite energy/source of God
to live as the attributes of the spirit.
One can become intune with this inner nature by honest living, keen observing, open to empathy and compassion for life, they can be in tune with the calling for harmony without belief and faith in a higher source. The beauty of this is through nature, we can find the need for harmony and see that its the only way for life to be its most prime potentials.
If someone behaves in a manner of hate...this is not an effect of a spiritual nature...but it is a nature of flesh,
26. “If anyone comes to Me
and does NOT HATE his Father and Mother,
wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes and his own life also
he can NOT be My disciple
disharmony, separation. More then that, if someone acts in a hateful way, there are reasons and those reasons always link back to being in the flesh/experiencing oneself as a individual and seeing that they are separate from other individuals. For a long time now, people have wanted to blame something outside of us for bad things, bad behaviors, saying its spirits, the devil, ect....
when the true source can be found right here, in the effect of the cause, of not seeing what we truly are.
There is no evil soul, there is no evil spirit...there is only cause and effect. The cause, is our true nature experiencing itself as a many....the effect is attributes like pride, jealousy, hate, greed, lust, ect ect ect.
Together, the design plays out in a way that harmony in life will be the only way our spiritual true nature can animate into its most prime potentials, prime possibilities, as a expression of the IAM, the infinite one.
I can not place into words or even claim to know fully, what is spirit.
But I do find the need to use the word to try to explain the oneness we are all of....
and the perfect holiness that the 'IAM' is. Trying to describe what is always to and fro,
animating into all life, the very source/force that sustains our being and the universe's being.
We are a very small portion of this great expression if we look out into the universe and see all the planets, galaxies, suns, ect that cycle and process, that birth and die, and as we can look at a sun that dies, we see a womb created where new stars are born....it seems that most of this expression of Thee is perfectly processing and cycling life and death without any need for anyone to observe and perceive it occurring....its just 'being'....and to me this makes sense....as 'god' is always just being.
So as conscious beings, there seems to be a much deeper processing going on between the animator and the animation....the potential for actual awareness of not only the nature of consistently and constantly being, but also, the nature of harmony, the need for unity, a awareness of a inner nature of 'being'.
Another thing that points me in the direction of one spirit is to imagine life on another planet.
Would they also not experience and see in the design interconnectedness? Through life, would they also not see how they influence eachother, how nature influences them, how life seems to be sustained by life itself.
It is my understanding that any being in the universe, can find this true nature of oneness, the call for harmony from their inner most being in spirit that fills them, that these understandings are in the very design and experience of life itself...
once one can get around and past the idea that they are a self in their own right. It is my understanding that once any being can observe life from the standpoint of oneness, that they need no book or other man or being to tell them about where they come from or what they really are....that the design is so perfect, like its animator, that the understandings and important things to be in touch with this spirit that sustains their being, is within the very blueprint of all that is, its all around us, it fills us, it is everywhere working through everything.
It is my understanding, that the whole of the design is just as it needs to be and will use the works as a whole to lead to spiritual consciousness which leads to harmony in life,
which is 'god' manifesting through its expression.
Jesus would be an example of that occurring. Imagine a world where every being had that understanding of being one with the father...imagine the harmony and unity that would occur...literally it would be like a heaven manifesting on earth. I think we all have the potential and hold the possibility, to become that Christ, to become that vehicle/instrument for the IAM's spiritual nature to shine outwardly.
I think there are planets with beings that also are on this same path,
I think that some have figured out they are of one and they live more in a harmonic vibration through will and understanding..
I think this process is going on throughout the universe
and the very same understanding can be found throughout the whole design of nature, that we are of one spirit that has filled all life for 'being'.
And as I try to explain what spirit is to me, please do not think or take me as I limit thee to any bounds....I am trying to use human language and my limited human experience and perception....to explain something far beyond what this body/mind can understand.
To sum it up...spirit seems to be what fills and sustains all things while they are 'being'....even the infinite one. It is what moves to and fro....from 'god' and out into a expression of 'god'. The breath of life itself.
Originally posted by DClairvoyant
reply to post by Unity_99
Look I'm not going to argue with you. Have you tried The Law Of Attraction, to know it really does work? I have spent two years digging around here on ATS and 9/10 times it has caused my suffering of paranoia and misery due to horrible articles to read and topic's I refuse to go into because that ATS for you, it just reports information without the emotion.
I find this website mainly bombared with negativity and I'm sorry to those who have tried so hard to do differently. Ever since I got out of coo koo land with all this banter about change. What do people REALLY do. They just complain, complain, complain, complain. It's get's annoying, either live your life as best as you can, and just enjoy it or go crawl up in a corner of an empty room and moan to yourself within your own ignorance of refusing to change for something better.
Originally posted by DClairvoyant
reply to post by Unity_99
I have spent two years digging around here on ATS and 9/10 times it has caused my suffering of paranoia and misery due to horrible articles to read and topic's I refuse to go into because that ATS for you, it just reports information without the emotion.
Hate is not of a spirit...its a effect from the cause of flesh, god manifesting into a expression of thee self.
Hate is something that has reason to be, through the facet of a conscious individual. Thinking they are separate, attributes like envy, jealousy, desires, fears, lust, ect...are created. Only in the illusion of separation, does such a experience of the attribute of hate manifest. Its not a spiritual attribute or nature...its the nature of flesh, the illusion that we are separate, that causes this.
Its also not a mistake that such things occur in the design/expression of god. All things are used in the greater whole to awaken the true nature of what we are really of. While one thinks they hate someone, there is also hurt and loneliness, a feeling of unacceptance, a feeling of hurt.
Such a person hating....is lost to their true self. And others around them can use this behavior of hate to weigh and measure what they want to be and not to be...weigh and measure their own vibration between what is of flesh and spirit.
The illusion of separation causes many things to occur that are simple just cause and effect. If you trust God is perfect, that the spirit is holy, then you can see how all that occurs plays as a entanglement to the awakening of the god within all life.
Outside the illusion of separation...there is no hate, there is no envy, there is no lust, there is no jealousy, there is no competition, there is no pride, there is no greed....there is only harmonic vibration.
Its not a devil, its not evil spirits, its not something outside of us that causes 'bad things'....but it is within us, its a effect of thinking we are separate, its a effect of experiencing individualism amongst other individuals. The cause can be found, and it can be healed and cured and helped.
Our system of placing troubled people in jails and only punishing them does not work. Yes, there may be a small hand of those that can only see the flesh self in their life while here....but the majority need to be given faith by another being, need to be given hope by another being, the majority need another part of themselves in spirit....to show them a light. The last thing the majority needs is hopelessness, no faith. Many do what they do out of hurting, out of a reaction to emotional stress or reaction to the attribute of power that we think as individuals, we have.
The funny thing is, we do have power....what we do has the power to effect others and influence others. Just because someone is misusing such things for reasons of flesh....does not make them evil or dark or forever lost.
Each being expresses itself...and if that being has expressed itself through hate or hurt to another...then know that they are also hurt themselves. Its much easier to oppose them and stand against them then to pity them and try to understand where their flesh has manifested such behaviors and actions.
The spirit that fills my being is all throughout life...I can sense it in all life.
Sure, different emotions and actions do have different vibrations....but that doesnt make each different vibration a spirit. The spirit that fills ones being is not what does the hating, is not what does the envying, is not what misusing the attribute of power...it is only the nature of flesh/self/individualism that causes such things. And, this has its purpose, in the awakening to our true self.